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1921 S Walking Liberty, care to weigh in?

DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm probably going to ship this to our host. Those who know Walker grading, any chance it comes back higher than VF35?


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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    IMO, it's worth the submission. I think you hit the grade. Not enough "meat" or luster for me. Probably worth close to XF money as it is very pleasing. Hope you get the XF.

  • batumibatumi Posts: 857 ✭✭✭✭

    A nice, plate coin VF35 imo

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    agreed, VF-35

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 9, 2018 12:15PM

    Extra Fine Details Cleaned.
    When I blew it up I think I see hairlines.

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    RE: "...any chance it comes back higher than VF35?"

    Not if it's correctly and consistently graded, It is a nice VF. Enjoy the coin for what it is and not for the games now played with numbers.

  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it will straight grade in the VFs.

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  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll weigh in because 1921 was a interesting year in US coinage, I can see it as definitely a VF35 and if graded so would go for a cac, may go gold

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  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fantastic looking coin. It might grade XF40, looks pretty close. For key dates, the grading services are always generous to the other guy, not to you or me. :)

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,702 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the hairlines are from circulation, not cleaning, and I feel VF35 is spot on.
    Fairly big price jump to XF, so the host might be critical, if you believe this factors in.

    Very nice example and very tough at this and higher grade levels. Much lower pops and much
    higher prices for the high VFs compared to the low VFs....

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,743 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not enough meat for an XF.

    VF 35 looks right.

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  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of the reasons I presented this is because my understanding is that during this period the various mints were minting coins that just didn't have consistency. One was hammering the skirt while the next was hammering the stars to the left of Ms. Liberty's head, etc.

    I find this one pleasing and honest for a circulated coin. The few light hairlines and imperfections are strictly circulation in my opinion. I think the coin represents a fairly early die state.

    Thanks for the help as always.

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sweet coin and so hard to find nice in vf. agree with the experts' assessment at 35

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,702 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How did you come by this coin, if you don't mind telling us - frankly
    that's a fairly unusual coin to find raw these days.

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  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 738 ✭✭✭✭

    I’ll weigh in at 190 pounds! ;)

    As for the 21-S, I think it will grade a 30-35. A bit too soft on the reverse.

  • PocketArtPocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF20. The scratch next to the "E" in Liberty hinders grade IMO.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,796 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a VF-30 to me. It has a fair amount of wear, but to me it has decent eye appeal for the grade.

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yikes! Changed my original opinion when I just magnified the coin due to Bill's post. I agree with bill. VF-30 Max. and not close to the details needed for XF.

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I vote VF35.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice circ. coin. Too bad about the two light scratches next to the E. Solid Vf-35 otherwise with a shot at Ef-40.

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  • SiriusBlackSiriusBlack Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know a lot about grading so I'll leave that to everyone else, but she sure is a pretty circulated coin :)

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,030 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Shouldn't an XF silver coin have luster?

  • shinywhiteshinywhite Posts: 346 ✭✭✭

    @SiriusBlack
    I'm in the same boat as you.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,796 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    Shouldn't an XF silver coin have luster?

    Traces on an EF-45; none on an EF-40.

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  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin belongs to a friend who's not particularly computer literate (posting pictures and the like) He buys through Stacks, Heritage etc. He hasn't told me exactly where he got this one or how much was paid.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a safe VF35 to me.... Will you be submitting it to our hosts? Cheers, RickO

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This comes straight from PCGS Photograde:

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,744 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin! I'd send it...

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  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    +1 :) Good luck and please post the result :)

    @asheland said:
    Nice coin! I'd send it...

  • Sandman70gtSandman70gt Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2018 4:26AM

    Very nice example. I'm in the 30 camp. Maybe 35. Reverse looks a little weak in the wing feathers.
    Your example is stronger than mine on the obverse and about the same on reverse.
    VF25

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm thinking the reverse holds it back from 35, I'll say VF30... nice coin!

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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,305 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NGC calls this xf45.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the other one better!

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Will PCGS put that coin in a “details”
    holder due to the scratches by “E” in Liberty, or will they net grade for it?

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  • REALGATORREALGATOR Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It has a shot. I grade it XF38.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on those PCGS grade photos above the OP's coin should grade XF40.

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both this and the 1861 S quarter I posted are going to PCGS Monday.

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13, 2018 7:53PM

    It has about a 25% chance at XF40.
    (Just my opinion.)
    Nice coin.

  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,145 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting how the obverse looks nicer and stronger than the reverse. Usually in the walker series it is the other way around.

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