Home› U.S. Coin Forum
Options

1921 S Walking Liberty, care to weigh in?

DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
in U.S. Coin Forum

I'm probably going to ship this to our host. Those who know Walker grading, any chance it comes back higher than VF35?


If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.

Comments

  • Options
    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    IMO, it's worth the submission. I think you hit the grade. Not enough "meat" or luster for me. Probably worth close to XF money as it is very pleasing. Hope you get the XF.

  • Options
    batumibatumi Posts: 936 ✭✭✭✭

    A nice, plate coin VF35 imo

  • Options
    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    agreed, VF-35

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • Options
    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 9, 2018 12:15PM

    Extra Fine Details Cleaned.
    When I blew it up I think I see hairlines.

    My Current project....https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/mysetregistry/album/160794
  • Options
    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    RE: "...any chance it comes back higher than VF35?"

    Not if it's correctly and consistently graded, It is a nice VF. Enjoy the coin for what it is and not for the games now played with numbers.

  • Options
    shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it will straight grade in the VFs.

    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • Options
    OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll weigh in because 1921 was a interesting year in US coinage, I can see it as definitely a VF35 and if graded so would go for a cac, may go gold

    Steve

    Promote the Hobby
  • Options
    ARCOARCO Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fantastic looking coin. It might grade XF40, looks pretty close. For key dates, the grading services are always generous to the other guy, not to you or me. :)

  • Options
    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,112 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the hairlines are from circulation, not cleaning, and I feel VF35 is spot on.
    Fairly big price jump to XF, so the host might be critical, if you believe this factors in.

    Very nice example and very tough at this and higher grade levels. Much lower pops and much
    higher prices for the high VFs compared to the low VFs....

    Successful BST transactions with 177 members. breakdown, scotty1419, mattniss, bigjpst, onlyroosies, Manorcourtman, guitarwes, Ebeneezer, Tonedeaf, Shane6596, Piano1, Ikenefic, RG, PCGSPhoto, stman, Don'tTelltheWife, Boosibri, Ron1968, snowequities, VTchaser, jrt103, SurfinxHI, 78saen, bp777, FHC, RYK, JTHawaii, Opportunity, Kliao, bigtime36, skanderbeg, split37, thebigeng, acloco, Toninginthblood, OKCC, braddick, Coinflip, robcool, fastfreddie, tightbudget, DBSTrader2, nickelsciolist, relaxn, Eagle eye, soldi, silverman68, ElKevvo, sawyerjosh, Schmitz7, talkingwalnut2, konsole, sharkman987, sniocsu, comma, jesbroken, David1234, biosolar, Sullykerry, Moldnut, erwindoc, MichaelDixon, GotTheBug
  • Options
    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,324 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not enough meat for an XF.

    VF 35 looks right.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • Options
    DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of the reasons I presented this is because my understanding is that during this period the various mints were minting coins that just didn't have consistency. One was hammering the skirt while the next was hammering the stars to the left of Ms. Liberty's head, etc.

    I find this one pleasing and honest for a circulated coin. The few light hairlines and imperfections are strictly circulation in my opinion. I think the coin represents a fairly early die state.

    Thanks for the help as always.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • Options
    kazkaz Posts: 9,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sweet coin and so hard to find nice in vf. agree with the experts' assessment at 35

  • Options
    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,112 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How did you come by this coin, if you don't mind telling us - frankly
    that's a fairly unusual coin to find raw these days.

    Successful BST transactions with 177 members. breakdown, scotty1419, mattniss, bigjpst, onlyroosies, Manorcourtman, guitarwes, Ebeneezer, Tonedeaf, Shane6596, Piano1, Ikenefic, RG, PCGSPhoto, stman, Don'tTelltheWife, Boosibri, Ron1968, snowequities, VTchaser, jrt103, SurfinxHI, 78saen, bp777, FHC, RYK, JTHawaii, Opportunity, Kliao, bigtime36, skanderbeg, split37, thebigeng, acloco, Toninginthblood, OKCC, braddick, Coinflip, robcool, fastfreddie, tightbudget, DBSTrader2, nickelsciolist, relaxn, Eagle eye, soldi, silverman68, ElKevvo, sawyerjosh, Schmitz7, talkingwalnut2, konsole, sharkman987, sniocsu, comma, jesbroken, David1234, biosolar, Sullykerry, Moldnut, erwindoc, MichaelDixon, GotTheBug
  • Options
    ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ll weigh in at 190 pounds! ;)

    As for the 21-S, I think it will grade a 30-35. A bit too soft on the reverse.

  • Options
    PocketArtPocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF20. The scratch next to the "E" in Liberty hinders grade IMO.

  • Options
    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a VF-30 to me. It has a fair amount of wear, but to me it has decent eye appeal for the grade.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • Options
    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yikes! Changed my original opinion when I just magnified the coin due to Bill's post. I agree with bill. VF-30 Max. and not close to the details needed for XF.

  • Options
    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I vote VF35.

  • Options
    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice circ. coin. Too bad about the two light scratches next to the E. Solid Vf-35 otherwise with a shot at Ef-40.

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
  • Options
    SiriusBlackSiriusBlack Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know a lot about grading so I'll leave that to everyone else, but she sure is a pretty circulated coin :)

    Collector of randomness. Photographer at PCGS. Lover of Harry Potter.

  • Options
    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,707 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Shouldn't an XF silver coin have luster?

  • Options
    shinywhiteshinywhite Posts: 346 ✭✭✭

    @SiriusBlack
    I'm in the same boat as you.

  • Options
    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    Shouldn't an XF silver coin have luster?

    Traces on an EF-45; none on an EF-40.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • Options
    DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin belongs to a friend who's not particularly computer literate (posting pictures and the like) He buys through Stacks, Heritage etc. He hasn't told me exactly where he got this one or how much was paid.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • Options
    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a safe VF35 to me.... Will you be submitting it to our hosts? Cheers, RickO

  • Options
    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This comes straight from PCGS Photograde:

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • Options
    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin! I'd send it...

    My YouTube Channel

  • Options
    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    +1 :) Good luck and please post the result :)

    @asheland said:
    Nice coin! I'd send it...

  • Options
    Sandman70gtSandman70gt Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2018 4:26AM

    Very nice example. I'm in the 30 camp. Maybe 35. Reverse looks a little weak in the wing feathers.
    Your example is stronger than mine on the obverse and about the same on reverse.
    VF25

    Send that puppy in!

    Bst transactions with: dimeman, oih82w8, mercurydimeguy, dunerlaw, Lakesammman, 2ltdjorn, MattTheRiley, dpvilla, drddm, CommemKing, Relaxn, Yorkshireman, Cucamongacoin, jtlee321, greencopper, coin22lover, coinfolio, lindedad, spummybum, Leeroybrown, flackthat, BryceM, Surfinxhi, VanHalen, astrorat, robkool, Wingsrule, PennyGuy, al410, Ilikecolor, Southcounty, Namvet69, Commemdude, oreville, Leebone, Rob41281, clarkbar04, cactusjack55, Collectorcoins, sniocsu, coin finder

  • Options
    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm thinking the reverse holds it back from 35, I'll say VF30... nice coin!

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
  • Options
    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,642 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NGC calls this xf45.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • Options
    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the other one better!

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
  • Options
    KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no

    Best place to buy !
    Bronze Associate member

  • Options
    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Will PCGS put that coin in a “details”
    holder due to the scratches by “E” in Liberty, or will they net grade for it?

    *For Sale on Ebay*
  • Options
    REALGATORREALGATOR Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It has a shot. I grade it XF38.

  • Options
    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on those PCGS grade photos above the OP's coin should grade XF40.

  • Options
    DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both this and the 1861 S quarter I posted are going to PCGS Monday.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • Options
    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13, 2018 7:53PM

    It has about a 25% chance at XF40.
    (Just my opinion.)
    Nice coin.

  • Options
    orevilleoreville Posts: 12,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting how the obverse looks nicer and stronger than the reverse. Usually in the walker series it is the other way around.

    A Collectors Universe poster since 1997!

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Format
SpoilerCodeQuote
Heading 2Heading 1
Emoji
:):D:(;):/:o:s:p:'(:|B):#:*<3o:)>:)
Url
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file
Home • U.S. Coin ForumComment As ...