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Never saw these PCGS holders before....

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Kinda cool.

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2018 1:48PM

    Yes indeed, you are late to the game. These have been around for years. They are not graded coins, but considered BU. You'll find them used for just about all bullion coins. I believe NGC is to blame for starting that trend. Waste of $$, in paying a premium for those rolls.

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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,075 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Most dealers I know would not pay any extra for bullion in a holder like that, even if it is PCGS.

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seems pretty pointless to me. Although maybe in 50 years people will be selling "Original PCGS bullion rolls" for a hefty premium... better stock up now I guess. :)

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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,672 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    Seems pretty pointless to me. Although maybe in 50 years people will be selling "Original PCGS bullion rolls" for a hefty premium... better stock up now I guess. :)

    If PCGS certified them right out of a mint delivered box then you can at least be certain that they aren't fakes, counterfeits, etc. Places like APMEX, etc. no doubt have their orders drop shipped from the mint to PCGS.

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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool, I like it !!! B)

    Timbuk3
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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You do what you want with your money, and I'll do what I want with mine...

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cmerlo1 said:
    Most dealers I know would not pay any extra for bullion in a holder like that, even if it is PCGS.

    Most dealers I know would sell ASE's in a sealed PCGS roll for a premium over a generic roll of ASE's.
    At least you know these ASE's weren't already picked over when you buy them.

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    RE: "At least you know these ASE's weren't already picked over when you buy them."

    How could you know?

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:
    RE: "At least you know these ASE's weren't already picked over when you buy them."

    How could you know?

    Sealed monster boxes go directly to PCGS. PCGS doesn't do anything with them other than repackage them.

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    djmdjm Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Preserves the First Day of Issue or First Strikes designation if you want to number grade them at a later date.

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @djm said:
    Preserves the First Day of Issue or First Strikes designation if you want to number grade them at a later date.

    However, "the First Day of Issue or First Strikes designation" is meaningless. These and similar designations are hot air -- they do not relate to quality, or superior detail, or whether the cows come home at 4:30 or 5:00....

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    djmdjm Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:

    @djm said:
    Preserves the First Day of Issue or First Strikes designation if you want to number grade them at a later date.

    However, "the First Day of Issue or First Strikes designation" is meaningless. These and similar designations are hot air -- they do not relate to quality, or superior detail, or whether the cows come home at 4:30 or 5:00....

    That's why every PCGS coin I own is either in the Standard Blue or Green Label.

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    DCWDCW Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Collect what you like, but it is difficult for me to understand why in the year 2018 anyone would be still falling for the "First Strike" gimmick!

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:
    Collect what you like, but it is difficult for me to understand why in the year 2018 anyone would be still falling for the "First Strike" gimmick!

    "First strike" was originally defined as the first coin struck from a new pair of dies.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,222 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the end it is just bullion.

    All glory is fleeting.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As a collector, I have never understood the concept of sealed boxes, envelopes, tubes and bags which never allow you to see the coins. Years ago the mint sold mini bags of state quarters which were sealed. If you broke the seal to look at the coins the value was gone. These bags from states like Delaware sold for hundreds of dollars. I don't know if these still do, but to me that's just totally silly.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The labeled containers, sealed I assume (though it does not state that) the same as a slab, at least guarantees authenticity - in this time of counterfeits, that is something. For stackers, it is a convenient way to store silver. I like to handle my bullion though, so would probably unseal the container :D Cheers, RickO

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a lot easier to counterfeit the label on a supposedly sealed roll... break it you own it.

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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,701 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd pay extra if it was a sample.......:D

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    OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    hmm...........does it rattle ?

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,222 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are those made for sale on the home shopping shows?

    All glory is fleeting.
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 34,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    its all about the $

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As PerryHall notes, " 'First strike' was originally defined as the first coin struck from a new pair of dies."

    That remains the only accurate definition of "first strike," although it might be extended to the first 10 or 20 pieces where there is no trace of luster and mechanical stress.

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    goldengolden Posts: 10,541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh my gosh!

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