It might be lawsuit worthy for infringement. The font is off on the lettering.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
Yes they are doing some Doilies to. And I think the green lables also.
Might only be available to PCGS dealers I want all mine in the Secure Shield though.
They are offering 4 different generations of the retro holders.
They should maybe rethink this idea of all the different holders being offered.
It's going to be too confusing for the average collector to spot the counterfeit holders when there are so many versions of the holders floating around.
I'm sorry.
I am getting confused by "HOLDER MANIA".
Holder 1.whatever, 2.whatever, 3.whatever, and on and on.
Let's not forget all the retro carp. Doily-new and on and ont. Shields, sniffers, whatever.
Not to mention First Strike and all the other special labels that I mostly despise.
I cannot keep them straight so this plays into all the scammers and counterfeiters. PCGS reaps what they deserve.
I BUY THE COIN, NOT THE DANG HOLDER.
I wish they would keep it simple. Some smart person said that years ago.
There, I feel better. Sorry for the rant.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
But getting back to the OP's coin it's a new grade when the real gen 1 was around it would graded 65 at the most on a good day. Had to completly have clear fields for a 66 back then.
In other words to me it is not a premium coin.
That's not quite the point. If the holder is an imitation PCGS holder, you have a problem. The coin inside could be a darn deceptive counterfeit, or we could have another guy who is putting real coins in fake holders. That happened a couple of decades ago.
If PCGS really is doing a bunch of retro-holders, they really need to step back and think. They should take a lesson from the Confederate States of America Government in 1861. That year they had multiple companies making their currency. The experienced bankers warned them that multiple bill types would confuse people and make the counterfeiters’ job easier. That is exactly what happened.
Edited to add: The OP did not show the reverse of the holder when he first posted this thread.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
I love the retro holders. They offer 4 of them. They are just a small additional price, and make the coins stand out from billions of other boring morgans. Why wouldn't you want them? lol
@jwitten said:
I love the retro holders. They offer 4 of them. They are just a small additional price, and make the coins stand out from billions of other boring morgans. Why wouldn't you want them? lol
Because we are in an era of fake Chinese holders. I look at a lot of coins each week and was not sure of the authenticity of this version. The casual collector has no chance.
As counterfeit coins get better all of these crazy holders are going to cause problems. With so many types I no longer have any idea what a real pcgs holder is
Hell yes, because it's all about the holder, forget the coin. Just like them little tags on those beanie babies. lol Oh wait add a bean sticker or some fake toning too lulz
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
@blitzdude said:
Hell yes, because it's all about the holder, forget the coin. Just like them little tags on those beanie babies. lol Oh wait add a bean sticker or some fake toning too lulz
If the holder is a counterfeit I have to crack out the coin before reselling it. My method is primitive as I snap the holder in two using two pair of linesmen pliers. Hate stepping on the plastic slivers for the next month and a half.
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It might be lawsuit worthy for infringement. The font is off on the lettering.
Wondering if this was an anniversary holder similar to the doily and OGH types. (Gen 1.0 on the reverse). Still looks odd.
Actually a newer holder RETRO Gen 1.
Is that a throwback classic holder they are doing now?
Yes they are doing some Doilies to. And I think the green lables also.
Might only be available to PCGS dealers I want all mine in the Secure Shield though.
They are offering 4 different generations of the retro holders.
They should maybe rethink this idea of all the different holders being offered.
It's going to be too confusing for the average collector to spot the counterfeit holders when there are so many versions of the holders floating around.
https://pcgs.com/generation-labels
I'm sorry.
I am getting confused by "HOLDER MANIA".
Holder 1.whatever, 2.whatever, 3.whatever, and on and on.
Let's not forget all the retro carp. Doily-new and on and ont. Shields, sniffers, whatever.
Not to mention First Strike and all the other special labels that I mostly despise.
I cannot keep them straight so this plays into all the scammers and counterfeiters. PCGS reaps what they deserve.
I BUY THE COIN, NOT THE DANG HOLDER.
I wish they would keep it simple. Some smart person said that years ago.
There, I feel better. Sorry for the rant.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
But getting back to the OP's coin it's a new grade when the real gen 1 was around it would graded 65 at the most on a good day. Had to completly have clear fields for a 66 back then.
In other words to me it is not a premium coin.
That's not quite the point. If the holder is an imitation PCGS holder, you have a problem. The coin inside could be a darn deceptive counterfeit, or we could have another guy who is putting real coins in fake holders. That happened a couple of decades ago.
If PCGS really is doing a bunch of retro-holders, they really need to step back and think. They should take a lesson from the Confederate States of America Government in 1861. That year they had multiple companies making their currency. The experienced bankers warned them that multiple bill types would confuse people and make the counterfeiters’ job easier. That is exactly what happened.
Edited to add: The OP did not show the reverse of the holder when he first posted this thread.
Good points, Bill. On the obverse alone (had some trouble loading the reverse) I would have had serious doubts that this was a legitimate holder.
This is a current generation holder with a "retro" label. From the image it looks legit (the font is part of the retro label).
Source: I know a little about these things.
I love the retro holders. They offer 4 of them. They are just a small additional price, and make the coins stand out from billions of other boring morgans. Why wouldn't you want them? lol
I hate the retro holders. Gimmicks and especially those fake OGH's.
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As a few others have mentioned, it's one of the Generation Labels that PCGS started offering awhile back.
Because we are in an era of fake Chinese holders. I look at a lot of coins each week and was not sure of the authenticity of this version. The casual collector has no chance.
The font looks cheesey
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As counterfeit coins get better all of these crazy holders are going to cause problems. With so many types I no longer have any idea what a real pcgs holder is
Hell yes, because it's all about the holder, forget the coin. Just like them little tags on those beanie babies. lol Oh wait add a bean sticker or some fake toning too lulz
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
Interesting, thanks for sharing !!!
If the holder is a counterfeit I have to crack out the coin before reselling it. My method is primitive as I snap the holder in two using two pair of linesmen pliers. Hate stepping on the plastic slivers for the next month and a half.
I want a scratch-n-sniff holder. Strawberry.
Make it happen PCGS.
And maybe grape and lemon too. I draw the line at watermelon.
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It looks simply clean
What a GREAT business idea! Now they need to add "Retro Samples" too.
Me thinks that PCGS should never have changed from the green OGH.
It's my personal favorite.
Pete
Is this "for real" or just a scary idiocy?
More of an odyssey.