Opinion on color please
AT or NT? NGC says NT, or at least market acceptable.


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@tradedollarnut said:
YuckYou read my mind. It is just plain ugly if NGC is right. I think it is AT.
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Probably NT, but I hopeit is a bit lighter in person
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I'm taking NT for $100
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On the reverse, it looks like it is caked on (i.e. sitting on top of the metal) rather than being part of the metal (i.e. a chemical reaction with the metal like toning).
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Some of the toning appears to be close to "terminal". Maybe it's the pictures. The white NGC prongs look very dark.
I am not a fan.
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Probably NT, but not attractive. This is an example of why not all natural toning is attractive, and why some coins are dipped. This coin cannot be improved via a dip; it will only get worse.
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Natural oxidation to the point of corrosion at the rims.
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Obviously natural but very unnattractive. NGC usually does not like Morgan toners outside of the typical rainbow or wow monsters.
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I like bullseye toning, but that is just too much. Natural, but on the way to dark gray.
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NT- probably looks better in hand but not sure it'd be enough appeal yet. IDK.
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NT
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she is almost in the so ugly she is cute catagory
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Does NT stand for nasty toning?
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I do not like it Sam I am.
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I see some pull away toning on the obverse, so natural it is. Sadly, the toning appears to have reached terminal near the rims.
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Looks like NT.. but too dark for me... but maybe not for some ebayer.
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Unattractive. Pass.
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NT, maybe it didn't photograph well, but the toning is a bit heavy, thick for me.
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NT but zero eye appeal
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I'm in the AT gang.
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This coin is unloved on the forum but i bet it would be an ebay rockstar
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@Hadleydog said:
I see some pull away toning on the obverse, so natural it is. Sadly, the toning appears to have reached terminal near the rims.Came here to say this.
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Uh....not my type but AT IMO
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AT-NT, dont care, I dont like the coin
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@Hadleydog said:
I see some pull away toning on the obverse, so natural it is. Sadly, the toning appears to have reached terminal near the rims.The problem with this assumption is that coin doctors don't always start with a blank slate. Some take coins that already have natural toning and then toy with them to create a bizarre NT-AT hybrid. Whatever it is, it is ugly.
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Send it to CAC and see what John says and ask for notes as to why it fails (if it fails).
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Guys, go easy. It's from the burried-in-a-sock estate.
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@abcde12345 said:
Guys, go easy. It's from the burried-in-a-sock estate.Toe jam/fungus... That's an interesting competing hypothesis. Someone bring out the Lamisil.
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Terminal tarnish out at the edge of the coin.... This one is super ugly....Cheers, RickO
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@Swampboy said:
This coin is unloved on the forum but i bet it would be an ebay rockstarNo way. Coin will sell for less than a nice white one with that toning.
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@Wabbit2313 said:
@Swampboy said:
This coin is unloved on the forum but i bet it would be an ebay rockstarNo way. Coin will sell for less than a nice white one with that toning.
I agree with you in theory, but there is a small but growing segment that seems to believe that all toning is good toning.
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@tradedollarnut said:
Yuck@tradedollarnut said:
YuckEloquently stated, and to the point. And I agree.
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Yikes! I am not a fan whatsoever.
Looks like someone purchased it from Northeast Coin.
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Looks like flood damage.
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I don't think that all of that toning could be dipped off without rendering the coin 'genuine'. Near the rims, the toning appears to be 'burned' in.
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@cameonut2011 said:
@Wabbit2313 said:
@Swampboy said:
This coin is unloved on the forum but i bet it would be an ebay rockstarNo way. Coin will sell for less than a nice white one with that toning.
I agree with you in theory, but there is a small but growing segment that seems to believe that all toning is good toning.
oh please love, they don't mean THIS kind of toning. This is were Ricko rightfully prevails
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@marcmoish said:
@cameonut2011 said:
@Wabbit2313 said:
@Swampboy said:
This coin is unloved on the forum but i bet it would be an ebay rockstarNo way. Coin will sell for less than a nice white one with that toning.
I agree with you in theory, but there is a small but growing segment that seems to believe that all toning is good toning.
oh please love, they don't mean THIS kind of toning. This is were Ricko rightfully prevails

I wish I were making that up. Some of them I think may be color blind. I'm with @Ricko on this one - not all color is attractive and it can be an eye sore.
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Well I guess someone liked it. The sold sold within 2 days of Northeast Numismatics listing it on their website. It is graded NGC MS64 and was listed for $85.
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