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ajaan
ajaan Posts: 18,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
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AT or NT? NGC says NT, or at least market acceptable.



DPOTD-3
'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'

CU #3245 B.N.A. #428


Don

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  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,878 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @tradedollarnut said:
    Yuck

    You read my mind. It is just plain ugly if NGC is right. I think it is AT.

  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Probably NT, but I hopeit is a bit lighter in person

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  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm taking NT for $100

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  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,878 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    On the reverse, it looks like it is caked on (i.e. sitting on top of the metal) rather than being part of the metal (i.e. a chemical reaction with the metal like toning).

  • lkeigwin
    lkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Some of the toning appears to be close to "terminal". Maybe it's the pictures. The white NGC prongs look very dark.

    I am not a fan.
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  • CascadeChris
    CascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Obviously natural but very unnattractive. NGC usually does not like Morgan toners outside of the typical rainbow or wow monsters.

    The more you VAM..
  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like bullseye toning, but that is just too much. Natural, but on the way to dark gray.

  • PocketArt
    PocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    NT- probably looks better in hand but not sure it'd be enough appeal yet. IDK.

  • Dave99B
    Dave99B Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    NT

    Dave

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  • Aotearoa
    Aotearoa Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    UNT

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  • chumley
    chumley Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭
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    she is almost in the so ugly she is cute catagory

  • Colonialcoin
    Colonialcoin Posts: 923 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Does NT stand for nasty toning? ;)

  • FranklinHalfAddict
    FranklinHalfAddict Posts: 697 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I do not like it Sam I am.

  • Hadleydog
    Hadleydog Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭
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    I see some pull away toning on the obverse, so natural it is. Sadly, the toning appears to have reached terminal near the rims.

  • Jimnight
    Jimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like NT.. but too dark for me... but maybe not for some ebayer.

  • bolivarshagnasty
    bolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Unattractive. Pass.

  • ChangeInHistory
    ChangeInHistory Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    NT, maybe it didn't photograph well, but the toning is a bit heavy, thick for me.

  • rainbowroosie
    rainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
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    NT but zero eye appeal

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  • Type2
    Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm in the AT gang.



    Hoard the keys.
  • Swampboy
    Swampboy Posts: 13,257 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This coin is unloved on the forum but i bet it would be an ebay rockstar

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  • mt_msla
    mt_msla Posts: 815 ✭✭✭✭
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    @Hadleydog said:
    I see some pull away toning on the obverse, so natural it is. Sadly, the toning appears to have reached terminal near the rims.

    Came here to say this.

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  • Paradisefound
    Paradisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Uh....not my type but AT IMO :#

  • rln_14
    rln_14 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭✭
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    AT-NT, dont care, I dont like the coin

  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,878 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Hadleydog said:
    I see some pull away toning on the obverse, so natural it is. Sadly, the toning appears to have reached terminal near the rims.

    The problem with this assumption is that coin doctors don't always start with a blank slate. Some take coins that already have natural toning and then toy with them to create a bizarre NT-AT hybrid. Whatever it is, it is ugly.

  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,878 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Send it to CAC and see what John says and ask for notes as to why it fails (if it fails).

  • abcde12345
    abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Guys, go easy. It's from the burried-in-a-sock estate.

  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,878 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 11, 2018 1:09AM
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    @abcde12345 said:
    Guys, go easy. It's from the burried-in-a-sock estate.

    Toe jam/fungus... That's an interesting competing hypothesis. Someone bring out the Lamisil.

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Terminal tarnish out at the edge of the coin.... This one is super ugly....Cheers, RickO

  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Swampboy said:
    This coin is unloved on the forum but i bet it would be an ebay rockstar

    No way. Coin will sell for less than a nice white one with that toning.

  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,878 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Wabbit2313 said:

    @Swampboy said:
    This coin is unloved on the forum but i bet it would be an ebay rockstar

    No way. Coin will sell for less than a nice white one with that toning.

    I agree with you in theory, but there is a small but growing segment that seems to believe that all toning is good toning.

  • Sonorandesertrat
    Sonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @tradedollarnut said:
    Yuck

    @tradedollarnut said:
    Yuck

    Eloquently stated, and to the point. And I agree.

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  • oih82w8
    oih82w8 Posts: 13,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yikes! I am not a fan whatsoever.

    Looks like someone purchased it from Northeast Coin.

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  • metalmeister
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    Looks like flood damage.

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  • Sonorandesertrat
    Sonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I don't think that all of that toning could be dipped off without rendering the coin 'genuine'. Near the rims, the toning appears to be 'burned' in.

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  • Aotearoa
    Aotearoa Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I do like the @ajaan avatar.

    Smitten with DBLCs.

  • marcmoish
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    @cameonut2011 said:

    @Wabbit2313 said:

    @Swampboy said:
    This coin is unloved on the forum but i bet it would be an ebay rockstar

    No way. Coin will sell for less than a nice white one with that toning.

    I agree with you in theory, but there is a small but growing segment that seems to believe that all toning is good toning.

    oh please love, they don't mean THIS kind of toning. This is were Ricko rightfully prevails :#

  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,878 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @marcmoish said:

    @cameonut2011 said:

    @Wabbit2313 said:

    @Swampboy said:
    This coin is unloved on the forum but i bet it would be an ebay rockstar

    No way. Coin will sell for less than a nice white one with that toning.

    I agree with you in theory, but there is a small but growing segment that seems to believe that all toning is good toning.

    oh please love, they don't mean THIS kind of toning. This is were Ricko rightfully prevails :#

    I wish I were making that up. Some of them I think may be color blind. I'm with @Ricko on this one - not all color is attractive and it can be an eye sore.

  • ajaan
    ajaan Posts: 18,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well I guess someone liked it. The sold sold within 2 days of Northeast Numismatics listing it on their website. It is graded NGC MS64 and was listed for $85.


    DPOTD-3
    'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'

    CU #3245 B.N.A. #428


    Don

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