Gasp! I knowingly overpaid for a non CAC...

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tradedollarnut
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...non PCGS....overgraded....problem coin


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  • CharlotteDude
    CharlotteDude Posts: 3,321 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    AT?

    Got Crust....y gold?
  • MedalCollector
    MedalCollector Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Big mistake ;):D This post will serve as my putting my name in for the giveaway.

    Thanks!

  • tradedollarnut
    tradedollarnut Posts: 20,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    AT? lol ....uhmmmm....no

    Knoxville provenance

    Early Dollar Set
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  • Boosibri
    Boosibri Posts: 12,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It’s not an ms69 but still, Wow! Spot and all

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  • SeattleSlammer
    SeattleSlammer Posts: 10,125 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Do you mean CAC reviewed it but declined to bean it?

  • Type2
    Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I can see why it's a very nice coin. The best part is you can always remove the color if it's not right and will be just the same a very nice coin. You did very good..



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  • davewesen
    davewesen Posts: 6,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    very artful

  • Sonorandesertrat
    Sonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    "But some coins transcend their numerical grade..."

    Very important point, especially where prior ownership is concerned.

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  • dpoole
    dpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Guess it didn't CAC because of the listed graded.

    But WOW. Beautiful coin. You must be thrilled.


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  • Insider2
    Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @afford said:
    Beautiful piece, easily recognized by the toning mark over the Eagles left shoulder. So now the provenance in important, interesting.

    It is not a toning mark and I agree with the post above. @TDN sure has a good eye. I think collectors of his caliber also must get the first crack at the best-of-the-best coins.

  • Kkathyl
    Kkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 8, 2018 4:40PM
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    I have to say I do find it attractive. Don’t see much under that color either. Not sure the price but you can always cross it over ask for dip. (Wink wink) apparently not all get this as not what I would do. So I will just add it here.

    Nice coin.

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  • Coin Finder
    Coin Finder Posts: 7,805 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 8, 2018 9:25AM
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    I like it! On a coin like that, some things just dont matter much. I would have bought it raw!

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  • gtstang
    gtstang Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The spot on the reverse is distracting but you can always avoid looking at that side. Now, the obverse gives me thoughts of Lady Liberty sitting on the edge of a pier on a cool summer evening as the sun is setting and beautiful calm blue water below her feet.

  • SeatedToners
    SeatedToners Posts: 392 ✭✭✭✭
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    That is a really pretty coin! I aspire to own something like that one day!

  • mbogoman
    mbogoman Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow! Stunning...

    mbogoman

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  • bidask
    bidask Posts: 14,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    So what is the history of Knoxville provenance ?

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  • crazyhounddog
    crazyhounddog Posts: 14,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 8, 2018 11:29AM
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    Holy crap that thing is gorgeous problem coon or not.

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  • bidask
    bidask Posts: 14,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @bidask said:
    So what is the history of Knoxville provenance ?

    Find some info here:

    https://raregoldcoins.com/blog/articles/pedigrees-and-numismatics

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    I give away money. I collect money.
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  • Justacommeman
    Justacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 8, 2018 12:01PM
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    I’ve always loved that coin

    Congrats! Gotta know when to pick your spots

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  • asheland
    asheland Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Awesome coin TDN!

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  • BryceM
    BryceM Posts: 11,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    “Some coins transcend their numerical grade.”

    This!!!

    True of so many coins. Just like certain houses & properties transcend anything you can put in an appraisal.

  • jmski52
    jmski52 Posts: 24,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like the crisp strike and awesome toning. I'm sure that it's one of the nicest examples in the series. You'll have something to take out and admire for as long as you are the caretaker. Congrats!

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  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,908 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 8, 2018 1:15PM
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    Awesome coin! Did Laura have a mini stroke when she saw you purchased a non-CACed coin and NGC at that?

  • thefinn
    thefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nature can be a cruel mistress sometimes.

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  • WaterSport
    WaterSport Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well, your the expert in this series so I would expect you would be able to pick this coin out in a crowd and disregard the plastic, stickers, etc., etc. Lets hope others can learn from your action.

    WS

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  • breakdown
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    Only you can decide if you overpaid since an unstickered NGC 69 Trade Dollar with a well-known provenance is pretty tough to calculate a "market price" on. Lovely coin and the "spot" is not very noticeable in your photo.

    Good stuff.

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  • BlindedByEgo
    BlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Truly lovely.

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  • REALGATOR
    REALGATOR Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If the coin "speaks" to you and it is unique or nearly so, then you did not overpay.

  • PTVETTER
    PTVETTER Posts: 6,137 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I have seen that coin before.
    I think it was on this forum, but I may be wrong!
    I remember that spots the reverse.
    Very sharp strick.

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  • Soldi
    Soldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thou art a fool ! Make haste and bring the offending coin to me immediately !

  • SethChandler
    SethChandler Posts: 1,722 ✭✭✭✭
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    I saw it last year. What an amazing Proof Trade Dollar. That coin is beyond anything imaginable. Even before the toning kicked in, it was just a superbly well made coin. Congrats.

    Collecting since 1976.
  • SethChandler
    SethChandler Posts: 1,722 ✭✭✭✭
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    Also, it that an iPhone pic? Pretty awesome.

    Collecting since 1976.
  • Kccoin
    Kccoin Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    shame on you.

  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Great eye appeal, I don't care about fussy details, let the marketplace decide.

  • oih82w8
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    She is indeed a looker!

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  • hchcoin
    hchcoin Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Beautiful coin.

  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,908 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Are you going to cross it at a lower grade to PCGS?

  • tradedollarnut
    tradedollarnut Posts: 20,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @cameonut2011 said:
    Are you going to cross it at a lower grade to PCGS?

    I doubt it. I still haven’t haven’t seen it in hand to give my own assessment of grade yet though

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  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I thought it looked familiar. We had a thread about this coin 18 months ago.

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    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/975505/1883-proof-trade-dollar-pr-69/p1

  • specialist
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    he won't be downgrading it. No need. this is a true case of buying the coin. the only PR TD I know is equal-Simpsons 1878 PR69 PCGS!

    This coin has haunted TDN. He will do just fine w/it-so long as he holds it.

  • Azurescens
    Azurescens Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice coin for the reasons here and a million more !! B)

    Let me know when the giveaway is.

    :D

  • Outhaul
    Outhaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It doesn't suck.

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That coin has amazing strike/detail.... really nice.... Cheers, RickO

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