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Because Grading and CAC are 2 of the biggest "Hot Buttons" on these boards.....

cnncoinscnncoins Posts: 414 ✭✭✭✭

Answer these questions in "Poll Format":

1) How many coins do you submit to PCGS/NGC per month?
2) What is the average value per coin?
3) How many coins do you submit to CAC per month?
4) Are you a dealer or collector?
5) How many coins do you personally view/examine per month (both raw and slabbed)?
6) As a coin "grader" how do you rate yourself on a scale of 1-10?

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 3, 2018 7:45PM

    1) 0
    2) 10k
    3) 0
    4) collector
    5) very few raw. Maybe 6 auctions a year. All boxes in my wheel house
    6) 9 in my series. Not sure on others

    m

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    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • cnncoinscnncoins Posts: 414 ✭✭✭✭

    I expect "Eureka" and "Colonel Jessup" to finally come clean....

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. 0
    2. 0
    3. 0
    4. Nope
    5. Varies from a dozen to several hundred
    6. Consistent and stable
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I plead diminished capacity, and have the paperwork to prove it o:)

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. 0
    2. 0
    3. 0
    4. 0
    5. Proprietary company info (quite a few).
    6. Technical grader: 10 Commercial grader: 2-3 and getting better. Playing GTG on coin forums: 5.

    I don't want to know what the coins I grade are worth; however, I can pick up an NGC or PCGS slab and guess the grade over 90% of the time. When I miss, I was low.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like banged up raw stuff. Let a coin look as if has put it's time in.

  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Timbuk3 said:
    :) !!!

    ...I can translate these pretty well now I think...Hell Yeah :) !!!

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2018 1:51AM

    @3keepSECRETif2rDEAD said:

    @Timbuk3 said:
    :) !!!

    ...I can translate these pretty well now I think...Hell Yeah :) !!!

    I am Groot

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,871 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1 0
    2 NA
    3 0
    4 collector
    5 25 - 50 over the Internet, a lot more if I go to a show
    6 Well above average

    I have not submitted coins for grading since I retired as a dealer. I buy everything either certified or raw,. The raw pieces are either British, ancients, tokens and medals, or modern U.S,. coins.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1) How many coins do you submit to PCGS/NGC per month? Used to submit buffalos and a few walkers. Never more than a few a month. None for years.
    2) What is the average value per coin? NA
    3) How many coins do you submit to CAC per month? I submitted my walkers and buffalos in bulk and then a few others later. Through a dealer. Again none in years.
    4) Are you a dealer or collector? Collector
    5) How many coins do you personally view/examine per month (both raw and slabbed)? These days? Not enough unless I get to a lot viewing.
    6) As a coin "grader" how do you rate yourself on a scale of 1-10? If you need to be an 8 to make a living at coins, then I am probably a 3 or 4. In Walkers or seated halves, quite a bit higher.

    "Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Too much to deal with on an early, holiday morning.... :D;) Off to prep the grill then watch the parade... fireworks this evening....Cheers, RickO

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1) How many coins do you submit to PCGS/NGC per month?
    5-10 submissions/year, raw and crossover. that equates to about 3-5/month.

    2) What is the average value per coin?
    $500-$1,000.

    3) How many coins do you submit to CAC per month?
    none.

    4) Are you a dealer or collector?
    I'm a collector.

    5) How many coins do you personally view/examine per month (both raw and slabbed)?
    thousands.

    6) As a coin "grader" how do you rate yourself on a scale of 1-10?
    perhaps "8" within my specialty areas and "5-6" overall.

  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,791 ✭✭✭✭✭

    10-20 (includes customers coins at times)
    500-750
    (1) I don't send many coins where cost doesn't justify it, (my personal coins are usually valued too high , so I send them thru Dave K or Harry L because I don't have private insurance coverage) Currently however, 100% of my own coins are cac'd.

    Dealer (small little local shop)

    100's , but most of this is walk in crap, so honestly not much to review.

    9+

  • NicNic Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. How many do you resubmit?
    2. What % of coins do you even submit?
    3. Ranges from none to hundreds.
    4. Great so far.

    Not sure of the message you are trying to send ?

    Happy 4th.

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,893 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why the questions and please explain why anyone who participates here should respond?

    I am satisfied with my grading skills, what I seek and the enjoyment I get in searching for what I like.

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I humbly hope that the answers to the above headline of the OP are not meant to determine the validity of any individual posters opinion on those topics.

  • KccoinKccoin Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1) How many coins do you submit to PCGS/NGC per month?
    9 this year
    2) What is the average value per coin?
    from $25 to $500, about $150 averaged
    3) How many coins do you submit to CAC per month?
    0, no privileges
    4) Are you a dealer or collector?
    90% collector
    5) How many coins do you personally view/examine per month (both raw and slabbed)?
    as many as possible, at least 50 in-hand
    6) As a coin "grader" how do you rate yourself on a scale of 1-10?
    about a 4. if i nail my current submission, I'll call it a 5

    small potatoes here

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 5, 2018 6:19AM
    1. About 60 per year
    2. $100-$1500, varies
    3. No
    4. Dealer
    5. 50-100
    6. 7

    Not a large buyer of raw coins or cross / crackout addict. 90 pct my slabs PCGS / NGC with 16 ANACS / ICG not even a slab box full. These mainly inexpensive / bullion material not justify crossover cost

    Investor
  • MorganMan94MorganMan94 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1) 0
    2) NA
    3) 0
    4) Collector
    5) Varies
    6) 6 or 7

    I don't know what the point of this is but I do know I am of minimal to no help.

  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Grading is highly overrated imo. Surfaces and originality mean more to me. I can grade but I might determine value more on originality first. And since I still like bust halves luster is at the top also. Too many dead fish bust halves around graded AU. Don’t care about things that might have or will change.

    I also don’t care what’s in favor. Think about this many folks on here will say I like this coin and want to buy it but others don’t like it. Hence , might be tough to move later.

    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stman said: "Grading is highly overrated imo."

    Highly overrated. I've only heard the stories of the "Wild West" years of my youth (1950's-1960's). Lucky for me, I never bought a coin from a dealer until 1968 and it was still wild then.

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1) 100-200, mostly express and show grading.
    2) 2K
    3) 50+
    4) collector
    5) Way to many to even guess.
    6) 9

    On a side note, question 3 is a Paradox for the CAC haters. They have to put "0", but then the question is, how can they hate something they know nothing about? :)

  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1) How many coins do you submit to PCGS/NGC per month?
    50+.

    2) What is the average value per coin?
    It's all over as low as $30 to as high as $5k it's never the same.

    3) How many coins do you submit to CAC per month?
    "0".

    4) Are you a dealer or collector?
    Collector with a touch of dealer.

    5) How many coins do you personally view/examine per month (both raw and slabbed)?
    100's

    6) As a coin "grader" how do you rate yourself on a scale of 1-10?
    Around a 7 off by a point some times in my favor better safe then sorry. ;)



    Hoard the keys.
  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. 0
    2. N/A
    3. 0
    4. Collector
    5. ?
    6. 7.5

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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 5, 2018 11:59AM

    @Boosibri said:
    I humbly hope that the answers to the above headline of the OP are not meant to determine the validity of any individual posters opinion on those topics.

    It's not so much how good you are at grading the coin. It is how will the big boys grade it right now, and also what does CAC like or dis-like. These skills will not be learned unless you are actively submitting. They will not be learned from looking at pretty trueview pictures.

    Skip's ( @Insider2 ) comment above about Commercial Grading could not be any truer than it is. Skip has graded coins for longer than most here have been alive. He does not however submit coins to PCGS, NGC or CAC. If he did, his commercial grading skill would be way higher than his self appraised 3. By the way, he is much higher than a 3 in my opinion, I believe he is just proving a point. None-the-less, he would be spot on in commercial grading if he was actively submitting.

  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So what I see on here if a person doesn’t care one way or another about cac they are haters. As I have said in the past I don’t and won’t hype up cac or any company whatsoever. So In new wave terms I am a hater. Although I know they are the market right now.

    Of course now folks are already hyping up post John coins. Old John holder. Especially one that specializes in cac inventory. Wonder why that is?

    I have said before I’m not against cac but the same ones that try and put down the haters Basically elite attitudes. I usually don’t post much on threads looking for attention imo.

    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 5, 2018 12:30PM

    I don't hate "CAC" I just don't use it as a tool like some do. Some may fill the holder needs it to keep the price up some will use it as a from of reassuring the buyer that it is correctly graded, I myself don't fill I need it but that's just me we all have are ways of thinking just anther tool in the bag.



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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,893 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It really is about how good you are at grading which is inclusive of understanding various series, and what makes the coin the grade it should be. Opinions are merely opinions while the coin remains constant and should ultimately be recognized for what it is... Including the appropriate grade.

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stman said: "So what I see on here if a person doesn’t care one way or another about cac they are haters."

    Somehow, I missed what you see.

  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 5, 2018 8:04PM

    @Insider2 said:
    @stman said: "So what I see on here if a person doesn’t care one way or another about cac they are haters."

    Somehow, I missed what you see.

    Oh so diplomatically spoken too. What a crock. ;)

    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 5, 2018 8:34PM

    @stman said:

    @Insider2 said:
    @stman said: "So what I see on here if a person doesn’t care one way or another about cac they are haters."

    Somehow, I missed what you see.

    Oh so diplomatically spoken too. What a crock. ;)

    You should have read the language I originally used in my comments that were deleted. I spelled things out very clearly in case there were any seriously uninformed folks posting/reading this thread. :)

  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Because of me?

    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!

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