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This is an obscure 1850 I. A. Hopkins Publishing. Merchant out of Milwaukee. There are 2 different varieties for this merchant. I really have not seen many of these and the few I have seen has been vf at best, other than one that sold a few years back in an AU55 holder, but it was not this variety it was the second one.
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I guess I have a week spot for tokens with Eagles on them. This particular one is not listed in silver on brass and has darn near 100% silver left on obverse and about 80% left on the reverse.
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I took a picture of the catalog for my own notes and inserted in red what mine is so I don't forget later. :)
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  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭

    I like it!

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Kinda nice that a business owner used a heraldic eagle for his advertising. Peace Roy

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,317 ✭✭✭✭✭

    coool token dcw and a nice one as well coins. wtg

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    1824 Campaign NGC MS 63

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:
    This is an obscure 1850 I. A. Hopkins Publishing. Merchant out of Milwaukee. There are 2 different varieties for this merchant. I really have not seen many of these and the few I have seen has been vf at best, other than one that sold a few years back in an AU55 holder, but it was not this variety it was the second one.
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    I guess I have a week spot for tokens with Eagles on them. This particular one is not listed in silver on brass and has darn near 100% silver left on obverse and about 80% left on the reverse.
    .The second variety of this Merchant does list a silver on brass.
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    I took a picture of the catalog for my own notes and inserted in red what mine is so I don't forget later. :)
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    I wonder if this token is somehow related to Western Publishing Company (incorporated 1907) in Racine - about 40 miles south of Milwaukee. 1850 is over 50 years earlier than the Racine company, but it wouldn't be unheard of if they move to where they could build a plant and hire employees.

    Anyway, great token!

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  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For those that might not know, Western Publishing in Racine printed the Red Book and Blue Book and many types of coin folders. I have lots of stories that I heard from my neighbors that worked there in the '60's.

    I don't think they are printing anything in Racine anymore. So sad.

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice items, thanks for sharing !!! :)

    Timbuk3
  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,760 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cameonut said:

    @coinsarefun said:

    I wonder if this token is somehow related to Western Publishing Company (incorporated 1907) in Racine - about 40 miles south of Milwaukee. 1850 is over 50 years earlier than the Racine company, but it wouldn't be unheard of if they move to where they could build a plant and hire employees.

    Anyway, great token!

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    I was wondering the exact same thing. I couldn’t find anything on the particular one, other than the name western publishing. Like you said it’s not uncommon if they moved and this was an early token.
    Wouldn’t be very cool if it was, weren’t they the publishers of the red book?

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did a little Googling - seems like the beginnings of Western in Racine date back to 1850. So maybe the printing was actually done in Racine, and Hopkins did some selling in Milwaukee.

    FYI I was born and raised in Racine - went to EH Wadewitz elementary school - a new school in the early '60s - named after the founder of Western Publishing Inc. I never knew that until today.

    http://racinepost.blogspot.com/2010/07/celebrating-175-years-western-printing.html

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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,760 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks @ThePennyLady! I always love your piece as it is soooo beautiful :)
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    Here is a Daniel Carr over strike on a 1964 Kennedy half.
    Someone pointed out a month or so back that it’s a ddo.
    Maybe PCGS will slab it :p;)
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  • sjcoinssjcoins Posts: 69 ✭✭✭


    After this kind of week. This token is just about right.

  • TwobitcollectorTwobitcollector Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is my favorite Moonlight Mint item

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really nice exonumia here... unique pieces...Cheers, RickO

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Original" steam token on top, Feb. date on reverse. Charmy, your's is beautiful! :+1:

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  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    photo LongIslandTerc_Combo1.jpg

    The Long Island SCD bears a passing resemblance to John Mercanti’s 2007 Jamestown gold five dollar obverse.
    
    The 300th anniversary of the first European settlement on present day Long Island (derived from the Dutch Lange Eylandt) was cause for a large local celebration, held from May 30th to September 7th, 1936. The Committee in charge of the celebration sought Congressional approval for a commemorative coin that would help offset the costs. Legislation for the proposed half dollar was held up until a month before the celebration, and with the Mint backed up due to numerous other commemorative projects (1936 being the peak year for the series), reduction work on Howard Weinman’s models had to be done out of house at the Medallic Art Company. Delays in production meant that the coins would not be ready in time for the event.
    
    With no coin to sell, organizers sought to issue a private medal. The Long Island Tercentenary Commemoration so-called dollar (HK694-694a) is struck on gilt copper and features the busts of a European settler and a Native American on the obverse. Unlike the coin, where the portraits are conjoined and face to the right, on the so-called dollar they face each other. The reverse features a federal eagle with a one star shield, fasces on both sides, and the inscriptions LONG ISLAND’S FIRST WHITE SETTLEMENT and 1636.
    
  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ThePennyLady said:
    Stef, you have such cool stuff! I love seeing your posts here and on Facebook!

    I haven't posted this in a while, but I think it's a beautiful piece.

    Gorgeous toning on that one!!

  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some super nice exo.

    photo Commems_1934-MarylandMedal_Combo3.jpg

    The Maryland Tercentenary medallion, executed by Hans Schuler, is intended to commemorate three hundred years of Maryland history from the time of the first Governor to the present administration.

    On the one side is a group of the founders. Leonard Calvert is shown holding the instructions of Lord Baltimore, and on his right and behind him is the first historian of the colony, Rev. Andrew White, S. J., and the colorful figure of Captain Thomas Cornwallis. On Lord Baltimore's left the colors are being presented, and an Indian is crouched in the foreground, with the ARK depicted in the distance.

    On the other side is the shield of Maryland and the dates, with a likeness of Governor Ritchie.

    Any profits derived from the sale of the medal will be applied to the expenses of the Tercentenary Commission.

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 24, 2018 6:02AM

    @cardinal what a spectacular Libertas collection it is. I had know idea there were that many different merchants
    that used this obverse. You hear an incredible collection. I can easily understand why the your set was entered into
    the running!

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,760 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is fantastic @cardinal. Please let me know when it becomes available as I would love to own a book.
    And thanks to you it will be a true collectible as well as a reference

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This just came in the mail yesterday

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,760 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Boosibri said:
    This just came in the mail yesterday

    There are only a few more Conder Tokens on my list of wants and that is one of them, but I want mine in bronze.
    Awesome pickups!

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 24, 2018 1:01PM

    Samuel J. Tilden ran for president in 1876. He lost the White House in a highly controversial election which was ultimately determined by committee of 15 government officials from the House, Senate and Supreme Court. The votes were 8 to 7 along party lines for the winner, Republican Rutherford B. Hays.

    The dispute centered around the Electoral College Votes of three southern states plus one Oregon vote. Hays had to get all of those votes to win the election. Among the group, only the Oregon vote clearly belonged to Hays. The rest were clearly in dispute.

    There was a lot of rancor in the wake of that decision. Some Democrats were ready to start another civil war. Other Democrats were angry at Tilden because they thought that he had not shown enough vigor to stand up for his case during the maturations that led up to his defeat. It didn’t help when Tilden made a comment that everything had turned out for the best. He was honored by the fact that the people had elected him president, but given the outcome, he was relieved that he would have to bear the burdens of the office.

    In the late spring a group of New York City Democrats got together at Delmonico’s Restaurant to drown their disappointment. In connection with this they sponsored three satirical medalets, executed by George Lovett, that demonstrated their disappointment with Tilden. Oddly enough they are listed with the pro Tilden pieces in DeWitt – Sullivan.

    SJT 1876-5 marks the "death" of the Democratic Party which was done in by "Tildenopathy."


    SJT 1876-6 mentions the lost political spoils ("your piece of cake") that the Democrats would have gotten from a Tilden victory. The "sore toe" reference addresses Tilden’s less than robust health. He tended to be a bit of hypochondriac.


    SJT 1876-7 brings up the false charge that Tilden cheated on his income taxes during the Civil War.


    All of these medalets are scarce to rare, especially in copper or brass. The white metal pieces are somewhat more common.

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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Boosibri said:
    This just came in the mail yesterday

    Love this design. I always think of the one offered by CRO:

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  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:
    That is fantastic @cardinal. Please let me know when it becomes available as I would love to own a book.
    And thanks to you it will be a true collectible as well as a reference

    Thanks Stef! All the text and images have been completed, and just a bit of design and editing need to be done. It should be ready around the time of the ANA in August.

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cardinal said:

    @coinsarefun said:
    That is fantastic @cardinal. Please let me know when it becomes available as I would love to own a book.
    And thanks to you it will be a true collectible as well as a reference

    Thanks Stef! All the text and images have been completed, and just a bit of design and editing need to be done. It should be ready around the time of the ANA in August.

    I, too am stoked about your book. And I dont even collect those!
    The world of exonumia offers so much bang for the buck

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  • EXOJUNKIEEXOJUNKIE Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭✭✭



    I'm addicted to exonumia ... it is numismatic crack!

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  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:

    @cardinal said:

    @coinsarefun said:
    That is fantastic @cardinal. Please let me know when it becomes available as I would love to own a book.
    And thanks to you it will be a true collectible as well as a reference

    Thanks Stef! All the text and images have been completed, and just a bit of design and editing need to be done. It should be ready around the time of the ANA in August.

    I, too am stoked about your book. And I dont even collect those!
    The world of exonumia offers so much bang for the buck

    Thanks! I will be sure to let you know when the books are available!

  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:
    Since we are on the topic I thought I would post my very first electrotype I bought years ago. Only the obverse but still beautiful and one of my favorites.
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    That is an amazing electrotype, very beautiful!!

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    Since we are on the topic I thought I would post my very first electrotype I bought years ago. Only the obverse but still beautiful and one of my favorites.
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    Wow! Where can I find one of those? <3

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,760 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kwoods said:

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    Wow! Where can I find one of those? <3

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    I bought this several years back and have not seen another come to auction yet.
    They might be out there but not too many and certainly not this quality.

  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I found this one early last year:

    While it is well made, and has both the obverse and reverse, it is not nearly as attractive as the one above!

  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BG said:
    photo LongIslandTerc_Combo1.jpg

    The Long Island SCD bears a passing resemblance to John Mercanti’s 2007 Jamestown gold five dollar obverse.
    
    The 300th anniversary of the first European settlement on present day Long Island (derived from the Dutch Lange Eylandt) was cause for a large local celebration, held from May 30th to September 7th, 1936. The Committee in charge of the celebration sought Congressional approval for a commemorative coin that would help offset the costs. ...Delays in production meant that the coins would not be ready in time for the event.
    
    With no coin to sell, organizers sought to issue a private medal. The Long Island Tercentenary Commemoration so-called dollar (HK694-694a) is struck on gilt copper and features the busts of a European settler and a Native American on the obverse. Unlike the coin, where the portraits are conjoined and face to the right, on the so-called dollar they face each other. The reverse features a federal eagle with a one star shield, fasces on both sides, and the inscriptions LONG ISLAND’S FIRST WHITE SETTLEMENT and 1636.
    

    I've never seen this one before.

    Sweet!

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  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Swampboy said:

    @BG said:> >

    I've never seen this one before.

    Sweet!

    Thanks. Found on eBay a couple years back.

  • EXOJUNKIEEXOJUNKIE Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm still really enjoying these two pretty recent newps and am thinking about submitting them for grading....


    I'm addicted to exonumia ... it is numismatic crack!

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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,760 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of my favorite wallpapers.....I'm thinking once I get better pic's of all the electro's, struck copies and Wyatt copy
    of the Pine Tree sixpence to make a poster out of it as I think it looks pretty cool. Plus I have a few more since I made this
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  • rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭✭

    Wow - interesting thread.

    I was about to start a thread for tokens. Some history on each one would be good to have.

    I was wondering why the California 1849 "Model Half Eagle" is called a Model. Anyone know?

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  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 22, 2024 5:48PM

    There are some British tokens called "Model Half Sovereigns" named after the British gold coin.

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    Great Britain Victoria Model Half Sovereign gaming token (19mm)
    VICTORIA QUEEN OF GREAT BRITAIN 1841
    THE PRINCE OF WALES MODEL HALF SOVRN

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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,760 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rooksmith said:
    Wow - interesting thread.

    I was about to start a thread for tokens. Some history on each one would be good to have.

    I was wondering why the California 1849 "Model Half Eagle" is called a Model. Anyone know?

    I don’t believe I’ve seen this token. Can you post the other side. And, I don’t know why they call it a “model”

  • fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 928 ✭✭✭✭

    Would like identification please. Appears to be silver or more likely pewter.

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,760 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fiftysevener said:
    Would like identification please. Appears to be silver or more likely pewter.![](https://us.v-

    That seems to be quite an interesting piece you have there. Not sure if its something taken off of one of his actual
    sewing machines or if its a copy? Perhaps you can post the reverse?
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    I did a quick google and found his advertisement in an Agricultural magazine
    and a great site explaining all about him

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