A guy has a partial Monster Box, 2013 ASEs (23 rolls) for sale @ $370/roll, good deal?

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KollectorKing
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edited May 31, 2018 9:10AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Edit for typo.

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  • MorganMan94
    MorganMan94 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Good deal, yes. Borderline great deal if you are looking to hold them, not so much if trying to flip quick.

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    $170 a roll?? There are 20 ASE's in a roll... that would be $8.50 per coin....That would be a heck of a deal...Something is wrong there....If real, buy them all... Cheers, RickO

  • KollectorKing
    KollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 31, 2018 8:52AM
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    @ricko said:
    $170 a roll?? There are 20 ASE's in a roll... that would be $8.50 per coin....That would be a heck of a deal...Something is wrong there....If real, buy them all... Cheers, RickO

    Sorry for typo, It’s $370/roll.

  • Swampboy
    Swampboy Posts: 13,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    O.K. then.
    That's more like it :)

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  • Coinstartled
    Coinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 31, 2018 8:54AM
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    ok price if shipping, PP is included.

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow... now that sounds more like it... I wanted to know where I could get them for THAT price.... :D Thanks for the correction. Cheers, RickO

  • BAJJERFAN
    BAJJERFAN Posts: 31,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 31, 2018 9:51AM
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    It's a decent deal, but not great IMO. I've seen em cheaper, but in all honesty I haven't been watching closely lately. $355 shipped would be great IMO.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • KollectorKing
    KollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No shipping, no pp. Deal in person at my bank.

  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,749 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I guessing any 70's have already been removed and you'll be getting the left overs.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • KollectorKing
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    @PerryHall said:
    I guessing any 70's have already been removed and you'll be getting the left overs.

    Not sure, I’d say 50/50.

  • MilesWaits
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    Ok price, not great, I sometimes see them a dollar over spot at Provident, shipped.

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • Coinstartled
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    @KollectorKing said:
    No shipping, no pp. Deal in person at my bank.

    If you were going to buy them anyway the price is fine. If you are looking for a deal offer $350. Dealers around here offer melt --$330. So $350 would be a good compromise.

  • PerryHall
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    I've never opened a sealed monster box. Are the individual rolls taped shut?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • KollectorKing
    KollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 31, 2018 9:16AM
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    @PerryHall said:
    I've never opened a sealed monster box. Are the individual rolls taped shut?

    I’ll know when I see them. I just emailed seller the question.

  • Paradisefound
    Paradisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    $370 is still a good buy IMOP
    I'll buy a roll from you if it's too many to keep. I am experimenting with toning in our humid environment :)
    Sometime ago a member mentioned about leaving his next to his turtle aquarium and _voila___ it tones beautifully B)
    PM me if you acquire the lot :)

  • KollectorKing
    KollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Paradisefound said:
    $370 is still a good buy IMOP
    I'll buy a roll from you if it's too many to keep. I am experimenting with toning in our humid environment :)
    Sometime ago a member mentioned about leaving his next to his turtle aquarium and _voila___ it tones beautifully B)
    PM me if you acquire the lot :)

    I’ll let you know.

    Meanwhile I’d love to see pics of the turtle coin.

  • PerryHall
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    @KollectorKing said:

    @PerryHall said:
    I've never opened a sealed monster box. Are the individual rolls taped shut?

    I’ll know when I see them. I just emailed seller the question.

    The pic in your first post shows the rolls as being unsealed. I was assuming that's what you were considering buying and I was just wondering if that's the way they come out of a sealed monster box.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • KollectorKing
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    @PerryHall said:

    @KollectorKing said:

    @PerryHall said:
    I've never opened a sealed monster box. Are the individual rolls taped shut?

    I’ll know when I see them. I just emailed seller the question.

    The pic in your first post shows the rolls as being unsealed. I was assuming that's what you were considering buying and I was just wondering if that's the way they come out of a sealed monster box.

    Seller had a monster box for sale intact. Since there were no takers for the whole box, he decided to sell the “tubes” separately. Hence the pics as shown.

  • KollectorKing
    KollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Seller’s response: “Never opened, right out of the Monster Box. All BU.”

  • BAJJERFAN
    BAJJERFAN Posts: 31,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 31, 2018 9:57AM
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    @PerryHall said:
    I've never opened a sealed monster box. Are the individual rolls taped shut?

    No. Usually done afterwards to prevent the tube form opening during shipping. Some people fill the headspace with tissue or styro peanuts to keep the coins from rattling. Bless their hearts.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • BAJJERFAN
    BAJJERFAN Posts: 31,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @PerryHall said:
    I guessing any 70's have already been removed and you'll be getting the left overs.

    Most if not all of the 70s were made early in the year. It's a waste of time now unless you can submit 1,000s in bulk.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • Smudge
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    $18.50 each. Not bad. My local jewelry store owner sells them to me for $17.50 each, BUT only one a day. Waiting for a rise in prices I guess. It's like a game, but for that I play. They are nice shiny 2015's. Maybe it makes his store look busier or he is waiting for someone who will pay more. Deals are to be had, you just have to look for them.

  • 1630Boston
    1630Boston Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I paid $388 two weeks ago, so I would buy a couple at $370 :smile:

    Successful transactions with : MICHAELDIXON, Manorcourtman, Bochiman, bolivarshagnasty, AUandAG, onlyroosies, chumley, Weiss, jdimmick, BAJJERFAN, gene1978, TJM965, Smittys, GRANDAM, JTHawaii, mainejoe, softparade, derryb, Ricko

    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • tommy44
    tommy44 Posts: 2,347 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    How well do you know the seller? Why would you want to buy them and how long would you plan on keeping them?

    It is possible that the seller cherry picked two rolls and the remaining rolls are the "rejects". Not saying that is what happened but it may be.

    One dealer at our local show occasionally has rolls at three different prices, My terminology, "really nice", "nice" and "not so nice". The 69s and 70s are in his case at premium prices.

    If you are just stacking some silver the price seems more than fair but I would still ask if they would accept less for a "quantity" purchase.

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

  • KollectorKing
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    @tommy44 said:
    How well do you know the seller? Why would you want to buy them and how long would you plan on keeping them?

    It is possible that the seller cherry picked two rolls and the remaining rolls are the "rejects". Not saying that is what happened but it may be.

    One dealer at our local show occasionally has rolls at three different prices, My terminology, "really nice", "nice" and "not so nice". The 69s and 70s are in his case at premium prices.

    If you are just stacking some silver the price seems more than fair but I would still ask if they would accept less for a "quantity" purchase.

    Probably stacking. I don’t know seller from Joe Doe, but based on his emails, he is an elderly gent using terms like BU & tubes etc.

  • tommy44
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    Whatchu talkin about elderly? I resemble that remark. o:)

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

  • 1630Boston
    1630Boston Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @KollectorKing said:

    @tommy44 said:

    . I don’t know seller from Joe Doe, but based on his emails, he is an elderly gent using terms like BU & tubes etc.

    But did he say "teletype machine"? :smile:

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    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • KollectorKing
    KollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @1630Boston said:

    @KollectorKing said:

    @tommy44 said:

    . I don’t know seller from Joe Doe, but based on his emails, he is an elderly gent using terms like BU & tubes etc.

    But did he say "teletype machine"? :smile:

    That plus he wanted to meet me at my xyz bank at 5pm. Then he said his bank abc closes at 6pm :o

  • Gluggo
    Gluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 31, 2018 1:23PM
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    Bring a g@n or a body guard

  • MACGE1
    MACGE1 Posts: 269 ✭✭✭
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    They’re available for less on eBay shipped, and you can pay with a Credit card.

  • KollectorKing
    KollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Gluggo said:
    Bring a g@n or a body guard

    Any volunteers?

  • KollectorKing
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    @MACGE1 said:
    They’re available for less on eBay shipped, and you can pay with a Credit card.

    How about a link or two or three?

  • KollectorKing
    KollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 31, 2018 1:34PM
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    Nothing on ebay for less than $9.5K per box, or $19/coin.

  • Kkathyl
    Kkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 31, 2018 1:45PM
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    approx 8950 for closed box open should be a little less. Those look good. Just check em first

    Best place to buy !
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  • TurboSnail
    TurboSnail Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 20, 2018 6:01AM
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    .

  • topstuf
    topstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I suppose it would be futile to discuss silver and its abominable history of instability.

  • derryb
    derryb Posts: 38,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 31, 2018 8:04PM
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    @PerryHall said:
    I've never opened a sealed monster box. Are the individual rolls taped shut?

    no, the monster box insert keeps the tube caps secured. Adding tape is an aftermarket protection when shipping unboxed tubes

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  • derryb
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    @KollectorKing said:

    @MACGE1 said:
    They’re available for less on eBay shipped, and you can pay with a Credit card.

    How about a link or two or three?

    And you don't have to buy 23 tubes!

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • Mission16
    Mission16 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭
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    @Gluggo said:
    Bring a g@n or a body guard

    We can’t say “gun”??

  • OPA
    OPA Posts: 17,166 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Agree...best deal so far....$366.20 for 10 + rolls, free shipping...ok to use your cash back credit card

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • Gluggo
    Gluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Mission16 said:

    @Gluggo said:
    Bring a g@n or a body guard

    We can’t say “gun”??

    I did not want to offend anybody. :D

  • Bochiman
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    @Gluggo said:

    @Mission16 said:

    @Gluggo said:
    Bring a g@n or a body guard

    We can’t say “gun”??

    I did not want to offend anybody. :D

    And, that people think like that, is a problem in itself :(

    I would agree to go the Apmex way if you don't care about the date (which I don't think you do, right?).
    Unless your seller beats that but calling it something like $350 or something.

    Even then, even if he seems legit, make sure to look at them as there were fakes going around last year, I think, that weren't silver but looked reasonably good....

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2, 2018 2:03AM
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    Not a great deal. Apmex has had them as low as $1 over spot. And with cash back credit cards, etc. it ends up much cheaper. You also have much greater security with the credit card payment and a known entity than meeting some guy at a bank.

    In the northeast, there was a guy running around selling gold eagles that were counterfeit. He was running ads on Craigslist and meeting people in public places for the exchange. The Feds were on to him but hadn't yet been able to nab him. There are no deals in parking lots, just a lot of added risk. Especially now, bullion can be had at essentially wholesale prices all over the place.

    [But, of course, dealers are crooks and people who sell coins in parking lots are to be trusted.]

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  • TurboSnail
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    edited June 20, 2018 6:01AM
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    10% ebuck today. $17.89 per random date ASE or $17.62 if you also use credit card with 1.5% cash back.

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