Which 14-s buff would you keep?

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ad4400
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Both are graded the same. Both imaged by CHD. I’ve formed some opinions which is technically stronger, which I can share later.

Coin 1 has been in the set for many years. Every time I’ve considered upgrading and compare to next grade up, I decide to stay put. Great subtle color and ‘intagibles’ have kept me happy for many years.

Enter Coin 2. I really like look of surfaces , but it does not have the same ‘pop’ of color. Super strong clashes add to a neato factor, plus a stronger obverse strike.

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  • OnWithTheHunt
    OnWithTheHunt Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like 2 for the strike.

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  • amwldcoin
    amwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like 2 for the color and strike!

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Top coin has a struck better reverse and bottom coin has the better obverse.....toss up for sure.

    I personally don't care for the green hues on buffs but so many have them and so many collectors do......oh my.

    Stay with the top coin.
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  • CommemKing
    CommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    First one by a long shot.

  • halfhunter
    halfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭
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    Overall I like the first one better. I like the colors, reverse looks a little better struck, and much cleaner looking without the die clash clutter (obverse), unless you're in to major clashes . . .

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  • clarkbar04
    clarkbar04 Posts: 5,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1 because I like the obverse the better of the 2 and because I find the reverse of 2nd one a bit unattractive.

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  • JBN
    JBN Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    2nd one.

  • david3142
    david3142 Posts: 3,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Another one of your excellent “flip a coin and send the other one to me” choices.

    I guess if I had to pick, I’d want the coin to send me the 2nd one.

  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 30, 2018 4:19PM
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    2. Braid looks better. #1 has a line of reverse dings that concern me. #2. Not gospel as I am not a buff expert.

  • keets
    keets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Coin #1.

  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    How'd that get so big?

  • rainbowroosie
    rainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
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    2 is way way better than #1. This is a non contest.

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  • rainbowroosie
    rainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
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    Why am I writing in such huge font? I’m not screaming?

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  • bolivarshagnasty
    bolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    2 for the strike and eye appeal

  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    What rbr said. #2 is a great buff.
    Great job on the photographs, Joe.
    Two very nice Buffs, Alain.
    Jim


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  • bolivarshagnasty
    bolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I've caught it as well. Did not intend to scream.

  • Walkerfan
    Walkerfan Posts: 10,391 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That's a tough decision but if my hand was forced; I would pick number 2 because of the better strike, luster and splashes of color.

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  • Type2
    Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like the color on 1 but the strake on 2 so I would keep both....



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  • DIMEMAN
    DIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like them both, but #1 gets the nod. :)

  • ECHOES
    ECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If mine, I would keep both...

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  • Jimnight
    Jimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like #2.

  • Walkerfan
    Walkerfan Posts: 10,391 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @ECHOES said:
    If mine, I would keep both...

    I'm sure that's what @crazyhounddog would do! Just add to the herd!! :D.

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  • thefinn
    thefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Why not keep both? I like the original skin of the first one. Depends on if you like a bit of toning, or more brilliant. I don't see a lot of difference in the strike.

    thefinn
  • smokincoin
    smokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭
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    2 for sure

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  • koynekwest
    koynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1 for the color and #2 for the strike. I'd keep 'em both but if I had to choose I guess it would be #1.

  • breakdown
    breakdown Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Number 2

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  • koynekwest
    koynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think using the hashtag is responsible for that huge font.

  • Walkerguy21D
    Walkerguy21D Posts: 12,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very tough call....the color and 'pop' of coin 1 is very popular right now, but I guess the pure look of 2 speaks more specifically to me.

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  • Insider2
    Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Color is "in." I'd keep #1 in spite of the "cabinet friction." While #2 looks better and should grade higher it has spots and a planchet problem.

    Now I'm going to read the thread to see if anyone picked #1 besides me. :p

  • Insider2
    Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thanks guys, I just learned how to scream 1.

    I forgot to mention the distracting clash marks too.

  • hchcoin
    hchcoin Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Coin 2 has a lot of cool stuff going on. I would love to look at that one under a loupe. Great coins.

  • crazyhounddog
    crazyhounddog Posts: 14,250 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1 for the color and all around look. But man! I like #2 for the strike and I must say the whiskers are strong on that one too.

    If it were me, I’d most certainly keep them both.

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  • crazyhounddog
    crazyhounddog Posts: 14,250 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Hmmm, My guess is also the hashtag . The first thing I did was hit that number sign on my last message and I screaming.
    Not me man I NEVER scream, EVER!!!!

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  • DCAM
    DCAM Posts: 302 ✭✭✭
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    Number 2 for the originality. What's with the scratches or whatever under the chin on #2?

    (edited as not to scream)

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  • Insider2
    Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @DCAM said:
    Number 2 for the originality. What's with the scratches or whatever under the chin on #2?

    (edited as not to scream)

    They are not scratches. That's part of the planchet flaw that continues across the bison.

  • drfish
    drfish Posts: 955 ✭✭✭✭
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    Personally I would go with #1. If I was building a set I would want all the coins to have a similar look. So is your set primarily colorful (#1) or strong strikes (#2) ?

  • privatecoin
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    I like the 1st one.

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  • amwldcoin
    amwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    You know it's your job to count all the votes and post the results! >:)

    @ad4400 said:
    Both are graded the same. Both imaged by CHD. I’ve formed some opinions which is technically stronger, which I can share later.

    Coin 1 has been in the set for many years. Every time I’ve considered upgrading and compare to next grade up, I decide to stay put. Great subtle color and ‘intagibles’ have kept me happy for many years.

    Enter Coin 2. I really like look of surfaces , but it does not have the same ‘pop’ of color. Super strong clashes add to a neato factor, plus a stronger obverse strike.

  • BuffaloIronTail
    BuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Both coins were produced from different reverse dies. Both coins were clashed, the second coin receiving the more severe damage.

    The "mess" under Iron Tails chin is actually a botched job that attempted to remove "E PLURIBUS" from that location.

    Clashed dies do not affect the technical grade of a coin, but the clash itself can affect the "look" of the coin.

    I like 2, even with the clash.

    Here's an overlay that shows how a clash on a Buff will show up. Notice the heavy area under the chin.

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  • jughead1893
    jughead1893 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    2

  • Kkathyl
    Kkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    2 has better overall strike and mintmark. The chocolate brown tone is even so it could stay as is or you could lighten it if you so choose too.

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  • TheDukeK
    TheDukeK Posts: 359 ✭✭✭
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    Both are great. Don't think I would want to get rid of either but if made to pick 2.

  • rln_14
    rln_14 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭✭
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    I prefer 2

  • RockyMtnProspector
    RockyMtnProspector Posts: 754 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    2

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  • alohagary
    alohagary Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭✭
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    2

  • BLUEJAYWAY
    BLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,795 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The Deuce for me.

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  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'd keep buff of them.

  • Namvet69
    Namvet69 Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    And the winnah is numbah 2! Peace Roy

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  • batumi
    batumi Posts: 936 ✭✭✭✭
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    @CommemKing said:
    First one by a long shot.

    Agreed, CommemKing. I see that grading is suree subjective with this thread-it appears close to 50/50. Both attractive coins. I would choose #1 for eye appeal-at least for me.

  • Treashunt
    Treashunt Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like #2

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