Wow...nice look to it too. Presume that's in a museum of some sort...guess they didn't have any concern about the metal being harmed so figured why not just glue it.
Glue? There are special adhesives available for museum use that would not damage the coin - but the glued side would not tone like the exposed side. Years ago many museums put coins on little "finger pedestal." After several years in that spot, the coins would have rich toning except in the circular spot where they sat on the pedestal.
Long ago the ANA Museum used one half of a KoinTain shell on the underside of a coin and glued that to the pedestal.
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There are a number of things you wish that a museum didn't do to coins, like cleaning. A number of the coins in the Nation Collection at the Smithsonian have been cleaned, including the unique 1849 Twenty Dollar Gold Piece.
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It is strange... we expect museums to have experts in the various fields (and, I understand some do). However, I have found, that (according to those I have met that work at such institutions) funding is limited and often they do 'double duty' in other fields. Therefore most will likely not have a qualified numismatist on staff... perhaps a consultant at best. Ergo, the optimal handling and storage of coins (as well as other materials) is not addressed properly. Cheers, RickO
@ricko you would think that everything in a museum would come with handling instructions. When the institution received an item, it’s most likely that the one providing the item for display would tell them how to care for the item. Anyway it’s most likely overtime those instructions get lost. Sad. But not surprising given what we all know about Bureacrats. Agree with the Acetone but probable need “preservation” treatment to get the surfaces uniform again.
@Boosibri thanks for the share. I defiantly have to plan a trip to one of these places in near future. Perhaps a Forum group trip sometime.
Bureaucrats are not the workers but those allocating funds to the organization. (just to clarify).
Kkathyl - Donors generally have little knowledge of proper care and conservation of their gifts. Curators are not "bureaucrats" in the disparaging sense of your use. They are highly educated and trained specialists. The problem with the old Mint Cabinet of Coins and the earlier SI collections of coins is that none of the Curators were really top-notch experts in coinage of any kind. They followed the best available recommendations of their time - many of which we would, today, consider destructive and absolutely forbidden.
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Wow...nice look to it too. Presume that's in a museum of some sort...guess they didn't have any concern about the metal being harmed so figured why not just glue it.
Grand Rapids Public Museum. I spotted on counterfeit 8 reales on display which was funny.
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Acetone might help.
Glue? There are special adhesives available for museum use that would not damage the coin - but the glued side would not tone like the exposed side. Years ago many museums put coins on little "finger pedestal." After several years in that spot, the coins would have rich toning except in the circular spot where they sat on the pedestal.
Stuff like this makes me come unglued.
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That trade dollar looks nice!
Long ago the ANA Museum used one half of a KoinTain shell on the underside of a coin and glued that to the pedestal.
Trade dollar is a 73 or 74.
I hope the acetone works
There are a number of things you wish that a museum didn't do to coins, like cleaning. A number of the coins in the Nation Collection at the Smithsonian have been cleaned, including the unique 1849 Twenty Dollar Gold Piece.
It is strange... we expect museums to have experts in the various fields (and, I understand some do). However, I have found, that (according to those I have met that work at such institutions) funding is limited and often they do 'double duty' in other fields. Therefore most will likely not have a qualified numismatist on staff... perhaps a consultant at best. Ergo, the optimal handling and storage of coins (as well as other materials) is not addressed properly. Cheers, RickO
@ricko you would think that everything in a museum would come with handling instructions. When the institution received an item, it’s most likely that the one providing the item for display would tell them how to care for the item. Anyway it’s most likely overtime those instructions get lost. Sad. But not surprising given what we all know about Bureacrats. Agree with the Acetone but probable need “preservation” treatment to get the surfaces uniform again.
@Boosibri thanks for the share. I defiantly have to plan a trip to one of these places in near future. Perhaps a Forum group trip sometime.
Bureaucrats are not the workers but those allocating funds to the organization. (just to clarify).
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I would say the T$ is from 73-75 due to the type 1 reverse.
I guess the only thing I could say to myself would be...man oh man!!
Kkathyl - Donors generally have little knowledge of proper care and conservation of their gifts. Curators are not "bureaucrats" in the disparaging sense of your use. They are highly educated and trained specialists. The problem with the old Mint Cabinet of Coins and the earlier SI collections of coins is that none of the Curators were really top-notch experts in coinage of any kind. They followed the best available recommendations of their time - many of which we would, today, consider destructive and absolutely forbidden.
If someone wants to try acetone > @johnny9434 said:
If someone wants to try it, they will have to break into the museum and steal it first!
some one might. who knows these days
I would say it has to be either a 73 or 74 with that MM size and location. Most likely a 73
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Sounds like you really don't want to go to one of these places.
Well if anyone needs a nicely toned (a least the reverse) MS T$1 I know where you can find one. Bring your putty knife.
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