Let's have a GTG! EDIT: Grade posted.
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Let's have a GTG! EDIT: Grade posted.
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I like that rainbow arc on the rev.
63
66 here
Look pretty nice.
Cheek marks rim gunk. Im going in low on this one. Slider territory 58-62.
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I went 65, but I prefer it at 64+
65/66
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MS64..... dings on obverse and reverse... minor scratches... focal area defects... Cheers, RickO
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MS-64 Strike not sharp, too many hits.
I straddled 64/65 but went 65. Thinking the luster likely pops more than the image suggests. Cheek, despite minor marks is not scuffy and the strike is good imo.
64
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Not my series.....just a grade based on other graded coins have seen.
I'd go 64+ if it were an option
I feel like we are being set up here somehow!
Watch it be a 58.
nice dollar
I agree it could be an AU58!
Hard to see if there is a break in the luster!
MS 65.
The cheeks are pretty smooth and the coin has nice luster with some rim toning.
No visible luster breaks.
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Very nice looking coin but I think it was in circulation for a very short time so I said a 58
I voted ms65...and for an 83o, the strike is well above average IMO
MS 63.
I'm taking myself out of the running for this reason. I originally posted MS-64, too many hits and the strike was not all there. I put my personal grade on it which I now confess was totally dumb. I'm still stuck in the 1980's and 90's.
IMHO, there is not a TPGS or major dealer today that would grade this coin MS-64. It is graded MS-65 for sure! The strike does not matter as much anymore, color is "the in thing," and there are five more grade slots above
MS-65.
...I am curious why you think the strike is bad? For an early o-mint morgan, she looks almost hammered to me...I get that grading procedures sometimes change from time to time, but strike is strike...the OP's coin, I would call well struck...the ear is fully defined and the eagle and wreath areas are all there...at least to me anyways
I agree. I appreciate those old no-line fatties even more than PCGS OGH's.
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Late to the party. I love the cheek and overall look/character of the coin. Looks like a solid 65 to me.
Love the slab shot. It shows the obverse of the coin well
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When I was learning to grade, unless a coin had full hair line detail (all the lines full & complete) over the ear (this coin does not) it could not be a Choice Uncirculated MS-65 (Note: these days "Choice" has become an MS-63 and "Gem" is used for MS-65). Therefore, graders were not concerned about which Mint the coin came from! Back then, there was no attempt by graders to put a value on a coin - only to describe its condition of preservation since being struck. They couldn't put a value on a coin anyway as none of them were coin dealers!
Back then MS-65 was the highest grade. A Gem" 1883-O with an impossibly strong strike was graded the same (MS-65) as a very weakly struck 1883-O coin missing the top of the ear and all the hairlines (also MS-65)! This did not "fly" in the commercial coin market so a group of dealers (who knew one was worth more money) started their own grading service to reflect reality.
Let's see, I don't recall the name of that service but I think all this happened in the mid-1980's.
As you posted this is a very nice strike for New Orleans. These days, strike matters in a different way. About ten years ago, we started to see blazing original coins with much less hairline details than this coin graded MS-65 and up. The reasoning was that this is a coin from the NO Mint and they all come with a little weakness.
LOL, reminds me of how much we are returning to that old, obsolete, and hated "technical system" developed in the 1970's that didn't value coins.
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When I guessed I assumed a PCGS graded coin. I would be surprised if this would grade 65 at PCGS. This coin IMO is a 64 at PCGS.
Joe.
Let's take up a collection for the OP, crack it and send to our host. Interesting. In my experience all four major services are pretty close to their Morgan dollar grade (unless you get a "flyer" or something sold on TV!
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Although I correctly guessed 65 from the straight-on photos, this tilted photo gives me pause.
In the second picture, I see cloudiness in the field in front of the nose, and I see cloudiness on the cheek over some of the tick marks.
This cloudiness may be evidence that the coin was thumbed prior to submission to dull some of the contact marks.
I would think CAC would pass on this coin for this reason.
I would have gave it a MS64, due to the marks on the jaw line and neck.
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IMO, the cloudy patches (not the one between the "UM") will come right off leaving the coin more attractive.
IMO, the patch in front of the face was not done to hide marks as the marks in that area are lower in the field. Someone can argue about the patch on the cheek.
From the first shot, I guessed 65+. From the in holder shot, I think 64+
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Well... I was low by one grade.... though not alone....
To tell the truth, if I were on the bourse, and shopping for a Morgan...I would think this was over graded....not by much, so I would not mention it, but I would pass on it....This is not intended to be 'sour grapes'...and indeed, if I saw this in hand, I may not feel that way. Cheers, RickO
MS65 The hits are small but there are too many for anything higher. Could be a 64 just as easy.
Just looks like some haze to me in those spots and I agree it would come right off. Is it worth cracking out and resubmitting in doing so? I doubt it.
Shoot - had you told us NGC, I would have been in the 65 camp.
I agree with the 65 grade.
It's an all around nice coin. I said 65, got lucky, but based it on the nice cheeky look. Too many dings (IMHOP) to go higher.
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I guessed MS-66 just to ensure the integrity of the bell curve. Someone has to do it.
Actually I only glanced quickly at the smaller pics. Had I first used the high resolution it would have been 65. If seen in person it might be a different number yet.
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