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Let's play guess the grade - 1860-O Half Dollar - Grade Revealed

BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 18, 2017 4:21AM in U.S. Coin Forum


Another view


Here is the front of the slab. The only reason way a type or Liberty Seated collector would not like this coin is the deep original toning. Some people like their coins to white or more lightly toned.

This coin is an excellent example of a piece that has never been dipped or cleaned in its 157 years of existence. It is a rare example of that because many older coins like this can turn black or spotty. The luster under the toning is complete and unbroken.

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  • TheRavenTheRaven Posts: 4,149 ✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin

    A guess would be AU-55

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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭

    I will hazard a guess of PCGS MS64. Pretty piece.

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64 would be my guess.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well no rub on the right facing talon this time >:)

    Honestly I like this coin. The gold was nice but I thought commercial. I like the pattern of the patina and the original coloration.

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  • BruceSBruceS Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62


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  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't see wear, so I'll join the 64 chorus...since it's Bill, though either it's a 58 or bagged for some old-time cleaning. :)

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  • dmwestdmwest Posts: 959 ✭✭✭✭

    MS62

    Don't quote me on that.

  • ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The first thing that came to mind was MS64.

  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,402 ✭✭✭✭✭

    textbook ms64.

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 17, 2017 11:33AM

    I will say 64 as well

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  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't see any wear, and I love the original look, but I don't see the luster I'd expect, and the second image shows a lot of chatter on the obverse, so I'm at MS62.

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  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gut feeling MS-64, but I can't really tell from the pictures.

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  • SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice AU 58 coin

  • USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll go with 63 on this one. Though it's tough to make out the luster with the pics.

  • jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Think I'd have to see it in person....

    But my impression, photos only, was 58.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS63. Nice looking coin.

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,757 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 17, 2017 12:05PM

    She is a darling! AU58+

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  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @originalisbest said:
    I will hazard a guess of PCGS MS64. Pretty piece.

    I agree

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @shorecoll said: "...since it's Bill, though either it's a 58 or bagged for some old-time cleaning."

    LOL, that's probably why the is posting a "curve ball" this time and using a nice attractive coin with a high grade he agrees with.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are no curve balls. The coin is staight graded.

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First impression was 64

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said: "There are no curve balls. The coin is staight graded."

    Based on posts by a member in another thread about the coins you post for GTG opinions, that's what I posted:

    This is going to be a nice coin with no arguments.

    Perhaps the other posters can add if they think it will CAC sticker at the grade assigned. :wink:

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Was thinking between AU58 and 64, before I looked. Strike looks different almost like a proof, but what do I know....

  • SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU 58 CAC nice coin, nice toning, original...........how much $$ ?? send PM

  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks MS to me and the grade would depend heavily upon how much actual mint luster is visible underneath the skin. If it is as dark as it appears on my screen then MS63 would be the max, in my opinion, but if lighter and more obvious then I would go with MS64.

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  • brg5658brg5658 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 17, 2017 1:01PM

    MS63 WAG (conservative) from those images, which don't show luster very well.

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  • coinhackcoinhack Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭

    I think it is a 63 if the luster in the photos is accurate.

  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't see any wear on the coin, so I'll say 64.

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,804 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63 indeed!

  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭

    64

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62 but I am no expert :smile:

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 17, 2017 3:01PM

    Looks a lot like my 63. But so does my 58's.

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  • KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 17, 2017 3:17PM

    64 but knowing Bill, he must have tried to upgrade it w/zero luck, hence 63+.

    B)

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    ...I'm in and Awesome Coin ;)

  • Jackthecat1Jackthecat1 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭

    63

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  • drfishdrfish Posts: 950 ✭✭✭✭

    63+

  • goldengolden Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63 here.

  • JBNJBN Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64 if strong luster. 3 or 2 if luster weaker/weak.

  • DanielBooneDanielBoone Posts: 161 ✭✭

    If there are any significant hits they've toned over nicely. Look's like quite a bit of luster lurking below the toning. Very nice coin! I'll go with MS64.

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  • KoveKove Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭✭

    63 at first glance.

  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. understated luster holds it back from greater numbers.

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  • ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

  • TheRegulatorTheRegulator Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭

    From the pics I would call it 55 Not sure what PCGS called it.

    Regardless, it looks like an absolutely beautiful coin.

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  • claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭✭

    Any grade between 62 and 64 seems reasonable to me. I go with 62.



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  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭

    reg 63

  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A beautiful looking 63

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