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Does David Hall send his coins to CAC?

DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭✭✭
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??????

Doug

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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here you go.......

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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    David Hall wouldn't need to send his coins to CAC. He has people working for him to handle tasks such as that.

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    DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    LOL, no there are no CAC stickers on the site ;)

    Doug
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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!

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    CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm sure he does...About as many as I have sent.

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    DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe you can be sure no DHRC coins have been to CAC and you can buy them, get them stickered and get a higher price for them. hmmm ....

    Doug
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    DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is nothing wrong with a little facetious mid-week humor B)

    Doug
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    jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭

    How about this. Did you find any CAC in Legend's auction of HRH's $10 collection sold two years ago :wink:

    an SLQ and Ike dollars lover
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 26, 2017 6:52PM

    I like how David Aker's coins get stickered for a stamp of approval and most everybody on the PCGS board of experts consult with John Alabanse but so many here cant stand the thought of a second opinion. I try to wrap my head around it but I can't. I'll try some more.

    mark

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've never put down a coin without a sticker and I've bought coins without stickers. The market rewards coins with stickers. Are we making any headway?

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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    ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 26, 2017 7:17PM

    DO NOT FEED THE TROLL o:)

    Even if it cracks you up. >:)

    Oops...

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ColonelJessup said:
    DO NOT FEED THE TROLL o:)

    Even if it cracks you up. >:)

    Oops...

    If I only had your restraint :p

    m

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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    DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :) It may be a trollish question, but interesting none the less. If you would try to cross an NGC coin to PCGS because the market reward PCGS coins more, why wouldn't you want to pick through DHRC and send them to CAC?

    Doug
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    ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 26, 2017 8:11PM

    @Justacommeman said:

    @ColonelJessup said:
    DO NOT FEED THE TROLL o:)

    Even if it cracks you up. >:)

    Oops...

    If I only had your restraint :p

    m

    Plural. But I've got a week-end pass for Denver :o

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
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    DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Van has some good looking coins on his site! Some look CAC worthy! :o

    Doug
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Of note, a number of the coins in the Don Willis Colonial Collection currently at Heritage are stickered. I'm not sure if the rest are qualified to be stickered. I would at least recommend getting a PCGS reholder with a provenance, e.g. a Don Willis or HRH provenance on the slab would be cool!

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/984586/don-willis-colonial-collection-at-heritage/p1

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 26, 2017 9:04PM

    @DIMEMAN said:
    YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!

    Wouldn't that be akin to Mark Salzburg crossing his personal collection from NGC to PCGS before selling it?

    According to Mark, the coins should definitely upgrade. :D

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 26, 2017 10:24PM

    I think it's more akin to wanting to get higher prices for coins in your own slab, e.g. PCGS+CAC for HRH, NGC+CAC for Mark.

    In today's market, CAC brings more money and it's still their slab, so I don't see why not.

    Check out the PCGS+CAC coins from the Don Willis collection being sold now. It would have been easy to have them reholdered with new numbers without stickers, but the stickers are there. Of note, none of them are NGC ;)

    Private Mint News | 2010 Lincoln Reverse Finalists
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    dmwestdmwest Posts: 959 ✭✭✭✭

    I bet he sends them to NGC.

    Don't quote me on that.

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,257 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you for my hard laugh of the day and boy did I need it :D

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    DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :smiley::smiley: I like to get the opinion of the series experts. On the 1804 thread I started, some very very knowledgeable people provided insight that only they would know after having studied them. You do have to respect the monetary value of the slab/sticker (opinion). It can't be ignored.

    Doug
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    morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not see why Mr. Hall would not send them to get stickered, it's not a conflict of interest or anything. Now, if he sent them to another TPG then that would be a problem.

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    skier07skier07 Posts: 4,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He'd be very foolish not to, if he wants to maximize his return when he sells in today's market.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Simple fact in today's market... CAC stickered coins bring a premium.... No matter one's personal opinions, the fact cannot be denied. Cheers, RickO

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 10,080 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 27, 2017 6:48AM

    Who knows what major players may do with some personal portfolio or some ultra high value piece.

    Investor
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    DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, the Don Willis collection at Heritage has CAC coins in it. :smile: smart, savvy man

    Doug
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not sure, but rumor has it , he sells JA the glue for them.

    Practice makes perfect & nobody is perfect. So, practice being nobody and be perfect !

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    BIGAL2749BIGAL2749 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭✭

    I thought CAC no longer evaluates colonial coins

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 10,080 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 1, 2017 10:41AM

    Don't c any reason he would - expense (additional cost to be recovered by business), CAC more for the end user. Nor do they need CAC input on grading.

    There may be certain issues above a certain price point they might but I believe this wb reviewed on individual basis as per current market conditions / marketing strategy

    If a potential buyer thinks a coin is a dog or will not pay premium (above non CAC price) sticker useless. I run into many on bourse who will not pay money to recover CAC coin additional cost.

    Investor
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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 1, 2017 10:26AM

    i remember walking by david hall's table at long beach once and over heard some customer saying something to the effect of:

    "i want to talk to david hall. he said these coins were gem but they came back as cleaned from pcgs!!'

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,950 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm curious, not that it is any of my business, who is wealthier as you can check with some celebrities online? My guess is JA with his hand in founding the competing grading service and now cac.

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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,689 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DMWJR said:
    Yes, the Don Willis collection at Heritage has CAC coins in it. :smile: smart, savvy man

    Or he bought them in spite of the sticker and not because of it.

    theknowitalltroll;
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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,702 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Where's Longacre when you need him?

    He handles the "my people, your people" replies better than any of us.....

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    DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    this:

    @Lakesammman said:
    Where's Longacre when you need him?

    He handles the "my people, your people" replies better than any of us.....

    Doug

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