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Guess the Grade; 1879 Paramount Morgan, NGC Graded

FadeToBlackFadeToBlack Posts: 7,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 11, 2017 12:07PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Back from when they used to grade non-Redfield Paramount Morgans.

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Guess the Grade; 1879 Paramount Morgan, NGC Graded

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  • DoubleJCoinsDoubleJCoins Posts: 78 ✭✭✭
    65

    Very clean coin, I like it!

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  • chumleychumley Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭
    64

    a keeper,whatever it graded

  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64

    64 but I would not be surprised by a 65.

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  • BigMooseBigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭

    64

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  • KyleKyle Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 11, 2017 7:39PM

    I know the grade, so I won't participate in the poll but it's a nice looking Morgan!

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  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63

    NGC is very strict with these IMO. I'm going MS 63.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63

    63.... Of course, I may be influenced by the tarnish.... :D;) Cheers, RickO

  • zippcityzippcity Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭✭
    65

    My wag as a totally inexperienced grader , with these photos (and the photos are great) I would think 64, if the luster is there possibly 65. Nice coin regardless.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
    65

    Nice coin! 65

  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭
    64

    I gave it a 64, might be too much chatter in the fields for 65 grade.
    Nice looking coin.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64

    I really like the look of the coin. I just could not vote for a 65 but I feel it just has that look that does not translate well into numbers. I cast my ballot for a Regrettable 64... Wonderful coin

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  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
    65

    Nice eye appeal

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64

    Strike limited to MS-64.

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64

    The coin has the eye appeal and panache of a gem; unfortunately the grade nitpickers point to marks. It's the art of grading vs. the technical school.

  • ShortgapbobShortgapbob Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭

    Based on the images, I think our hosts would grade it 65 first time through.

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64

    Disagree. Not now. Perhaps in a few years as it is an attractive coin. There was a time when a 65 needed strong hair over the ear. That requirement is slowly slipping and weaker to "normal" strikes with great eye appeal are making 65.

  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    65

    ...what did CAC say or is she in route?

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63

    Well... It looks 63 to me.... but I am a bit tough on Morgans.... I do like how they look in those red holders though... Cheers, RickO

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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    65

    @FadeToBlack said:

    @3keepSECRETif2rDEAD said:
    ...what did CAC say or is she in route?

    CAC doesn't sticker Redfield or Paramount holders.

    :(

    ... :( indeed...killer coin for sure!

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63

    I'm ok with that coin being graded Ms 64. I'm not crazy about the gray in the hair/cheek but it's clean enough for MS 64 otherwise.

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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Am I hallucinating a MM in the original image?

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