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Raw bust dime Central States show purchase....guess the grade? *Grade Posted*

USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
edited May 2, 2017 8:22PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Couldn't resist taking a shot on this one, I just love the reverse on the 1811 dime...Guess the grade if you like and thanks for looking!


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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    broke! ;)

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,076 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Strong VF, maybe XF on a good day.

  • USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭

    Gonna go ahead and post the big shot of the obverse too...the over date and die defects are dramatic...this is a later die state than some of the others I've owned.

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  • MorganMan94MorganMan94 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will go with 35 but something tells me it is a 40.

  • Sunshine Rare CoinsSunshine Rare Coins Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice. Has a heck of a lot more meat on it than a PCGS VF20 I have.
    I'll say 40 as well.
    Love the cracks on the back.

  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks fantastic and a solid 40 to me. It does look like it has some minor obverse marks or scratches, but nothing too substantial. Of course, the reverse cracks are really interesting. For comparison, here is my 1814 XF-45 CAC with similar color.

    Tom

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 1, 2017 10:38AM

    The OP coin does not look raw to me...VF35

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_4NzaPSVB4

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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's XF45 details to me, with choice, original surfaces. I will guess it's actually housed in an XF40 holder, due to the light, obverse scratches (in front of chin, over cap).

  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,001 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF35 but I don't know jack. Love the shattered reverse!

  • QCCoinGuyQCCoinGuy Posts: 335 ✭✭✭✭

    I'd say 35, but could just as well make 40. Great reverse.

  • jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45

  • KoinickerKoinicker Posts: 289 ✭✭✭

    I'm also in the 35 camp.

  • WDPWDP Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love that shattered reverse die! Thanks for showing me this coin at Central States, and congratulations again.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks 35-40 to me. Sorry I missed you at Central States.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TPRC said:
    It looks fantastic and a solid 40 to me. It does look like it has some minor obverse marks or scratches, but nothing too substantial. Of course, the reverse cracks are really interesting. For comparison, here is my 1814 XF-45 CAC with similar color.

    Some of that stuff on the obverse is clashing.

  • JJSingletonJJSingleton Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll guess VF30. That is one messed up reverse die. B)

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll say VF35. It doesn't look raw, though, like the thread title indicates.

  • USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭

    @WDP said:
    I love that shattered reverse die! Thanks for showing me this coin at Central States, and congratulations again.

    It was great seeing you again and thanks!

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  • USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:
    I'll say VF35. It doesn't look raw, though, like the thread title indicates.

    The coin was purchased on Wednesday and walked through with a few others, I received it back Saturday...a guess the grade with a speculative answer wouldn't be much fun!

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  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great looking coin!

  • USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:
    Looks 35-40 to me. Sorry I missed you at Central States.

    Sorry to have missed you too...maybe next time!

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  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm going to assume he had it graded at the show.

    XF 40 here.

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  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I vote XF40 and got to say, love that dove gray smooth tone.

  • msch1manmsch1man Posts: 809 ✭✭✭✭

    I'd probably grade it XF-45, but wouldn't be surprised if it got a 40. I think the very late die stage makes it appear to have more actual 'wear' than it does...especially above the cap on the obverse and at the arrowheads on the reverse. Here's one graded MS-63 from Coinfacts (not my coin)...

  • ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,092 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF-40

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like non collar strike dimes.

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    40

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    great looking piece of early silver. 45?

  • shishshish Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice example with lots of character, EF-40?

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  • ccmorganccmorgan Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭

    At first I thought 50 but after closer examination a solid 45 is MHO.

    Love the 1885-CC Morgan
  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    Parts of it look VF+, from the strike no doubt, other areas look solid EF-45 like the lower right obverse. I want to say EF-40 but 45 would not surprise.
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  • USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭

    Results will be posted tonight if anyone else wants to hazard a guess

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  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Saw it in hand, COOL!

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  • coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭

    Most definitely XF40 or better.

  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2, 2017 4:02PM

    40 w/some claims to a 45

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  • USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭

    As promised, here is the grade...VF35. I felt the coin was a VF35 with a shot at 40. Personally I like to see more apparent/flashier luster for an XF45. Still a great example of a better date for sure! Thanks everyone for looking!

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Missed the GTG... but would have said 40.... interesting coin with the die cracks... Cheers, RickO

  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭✭

    @USMoneylover said:
    As promised, here is the grade...VF35. I felt the coin was a VF35 with a shot at 40. Personally I like to see more apparent/flashier luster for an XF45. Still a great example of a better date for sure! Thanks everyone for looking!

    nice pick

  • EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love the 1811/9 Capped Bust dimes and your coin is properly graded IMHO. I won't try to upgrade it rather obtain a CAC if possible to increase its value. This a middle die to later die state because the weakness and strength of the broken die on the reverse. Most of the 1811/9 have greater details than the grade because I feel PCGS holds back the grade due to the strike weakness. Nice coin and congrats.

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