Raw bust dime Central States show purchase....guess the grade? *Grade Posted*

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USMoneylover
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edited May 2, 2017 8:22PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Couldn't resist taking a shot on this one, I just love the reverse on the 1811 dime...Guess the grade if you like and thanks for looking!


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  • topstuf
    topstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    broke! ;)

  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Strong VF, maybe XF on a good day.

  • USMoneylover
    USMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
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    Gonna go ahead and post the big shot of the obverse too...the over date and die defects are dramatic...this is a later die state than some of the others I've owned.

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  • MorganMan94
    MorganMan94 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I will go with 35 but something tells me it is a 40.

  • Sunshine Rare Coins
    Sunshine Rare Coins Posts: 2,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    XF-40

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  • LanLord
    LanLord Posts: 11,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice. Has a heck of a lot more meat on it than a PCGS VF20 I have.
    I'll say 40 as well.
    Love the cracks on the back.

  • TPRC
    TPRC Posts: 3,819 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It looks fantastic and a solid 40 to me. It does look like it has some minor obverse marks or scratches, but nothing too substantial. Of course, the reverse cracks are really interesting. For comparison, here is my 1814 XF-45 CAC with similar color.

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  • oih82w8
    oih82w8 Posts: 13,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 1, 2017 10:38AM
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    The OP coin does not look raw to me...VF35

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_4NzaPSVB4

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  • rhedden
    rhedden Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It's XF45 details to me, with choice, original surfaces. I will guess it's actually housed in an XF40 holder, due to the light, obverse scratches (in front of chin, over cap).

  • Meltdown
    Meltdown Posts: 9,284 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    VF35 but I don't know jack. Love the shattered reverse!

  • QCCoinGuy
    QCCoinGuy Posts: 335 ✭✭✭✭
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    I'd say 35, but could just as well make 40. Great reverse.

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  • jughead1893
    jughead1893 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    45

  • Koinicker
    Koinicker Posts: 289 ✭✭✭
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    I'm also in the 35 camp.

  • WDP
    WDP Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I love that shattered reverse die! Thanks for showing me this coin at Central States, and congratulations again.

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  • DIMEMAN
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    Looks 35-40 to me. Sorry I missed you at Central States.

  • DIMEMAN
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    @TPRC said:
    It looks fantastic and a solid 40 to me. It does look like it has some minor obverse marks or scratches, but nothing too substantial. Of course, the reverse cracks are really interesting. For comparison, here is my 1814 XF-45 CAC with similar color.

    Some of that stuff on the obverse is clashing.

  • JJSingleton
    JJSingleton Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'll guess VF30. That is one messed up reverse die. B)

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  • messydesk
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    I'll say VF35. It doesn't look raw, though, like the thread title indicates.

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  • USMoneylover
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    @WDP said:
    I love that shattered reverse die! Thanks for showing me this coin at Central States, and congratulations again.

    It was great seeing you again and thanks!

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  • USMoneylover
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    @messydesk said:
    I'll say VF35. It doesn't look raw, though, like the thread title indicates.

    The coin was purchased on Wednesday and walked through with a few others, I received it back Saturday...a guess the grade with a speculative answer wouldn't be much fun!

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  • hchcoin
    hchcoin Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Great looking coin!

  • USMoneylover
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    @DIMEMAN said:
    Looks 35-40 to me. Sorry I missed you at Central States.

    Sorry to have missed you too...maybe next time!

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  • DollarAfterDollar
    DollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm going to assume he had it graded at the show.

    XF 40 here.

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  • abcde12345
    abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I vote XF40 and got to say, love that dove gray smooth tone.

  • msch1man
    msch1man Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭
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    I'd probably grade it XF-45, but wouldn't be surprised if it got a 40. I think the very late die stage makes it appear to have more actual 'wear' than it does...especially above the cap on the obverse and at the arrowheads on the reverse. Here's one graded MS-63 from Coinfacts (not my coin)...

  • ChangeInHistory
    ChangeInHistory Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    XF-40

  • topstuf
    topstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like non collar strike dimes.

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  • mannie gray
    mannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    40

  • kaz
    kaz Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    great looking piece of early silver. 45?

  • shish
    shish Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice example with lots of character, EF-40?

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  • ccmorgan
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    At first I thought 50 but after closer examination a solid 45 is MHO.

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  • WinLoseWin
    WinLoseWin Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Parts of it look VF+, from the strike no doubt, other areas look solid EF-45 like the lower right obverse. I want to say EF-40 but 45 would not surprise.
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  • USMoneylover
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    Results will be posted tonight if anyone else wants to hazard a guess

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  • BustDMs
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    Saw it in hand, COOL!

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  • coin22lover
    coin22lover Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭
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    Most definitely XF40 or better.

  • thisnamztaken
    thisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    40 w/some claims to a 45

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  • USMoneylover
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    As promised, here is the grade...VF35. I felt the coin was a VF35 with a shot at 40. Personally I like to see more apparent/flashier luster for an XF45. Still a great example of a better date for sure! Thanks everyone for looking!

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  • ricko
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    Missed the GTG... but would have said 40.... interesting coin with the die cracks... Cheers, RickO

  • bestday
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    @USMoneylover said:
    As promised, here is the grade...VF35. I felt the coin was a VF35 with a shot at 40. Personally I like to see more apparent/flashier luster for an XF45. Still a great example of a better date for sure! Thanks everyone for looking!

    nice pick

  • EastonCollection
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    I love the 1811/9 Capped Bust dimes and your coin is properly graded IMHO. I won't try to upgrade it rather obtain a CAC if possible to increase its value. This a middle die to later die state because the weakness and strength of the broken die on the reverse. Most of the 1811/9 have greater details than the grade because I feel PCGS holds back the grade due to the strike weakness. Nice coin and congrats.

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