Are we do for a complete overall of our coinage under the United States minting authority?

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abcde12345
abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Is it time to update all of your various coin designs and mottos? For example, could we have a "liberty series" instead of presidents? Should we change our designs front and back and if so what choices would you recommend?
No foreign coin suggestions please and no flag portrait designs. Thanks.

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  • Stooge
    Stooge Posts: 4,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The Roosevelt Dime is in desperate need of a design change and I collect this coin. I think 70 yrs is long enough.

    I would like to see some sort of design with "Full Bands". I think that would be nice. Not the designs of the Merc or the current design but something different.


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  • mr1931S
    mr1931S Posts: 7,308 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Gasparro's Liberty design for the $1 that was rejected many years ago would be great to see on the new dime.

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  • DCW
    DCW Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I agree, our coinage is in absolute need of an overhaul. Is it a priority in these trying times? Probably not, but it would sure be a nice diversion from all the negativity

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  • Jimnight
    Jimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It's not that we are DUE for a change in the coinage system, that in my opinion, would be dependent on world events

  • Pandavab
    Pandavab Posts: 960 ✭✭✭
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    Agreed. We've been running with the same designs (more or less) for a long time, especially for the widely circulating denominations (cents, nickels, dimes, quarters). I'd LOVE to get some real artistic design to our circulating coins again.

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  • Cougar1978
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    It's long over due.

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  • David1940
    David1940 Posts: 70 ✭✭✭
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    I'd like to see more denomintations. 20 cents, two dollars, five dollars. That would be nice. More scientists and artists on coins rather than presidents. Twain, Dickens, Darwin, Newton, Kepler, Fermat, ... People who've been dead for more than 100 years... don't have to be Americans, or white men.

  • MorganMan94
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    @David1940 said:
    I'd like to see more denomintations. 20 cents, two dollars, five dollars. That would be nice. More scientists and artists on coins rather than presidents. Twain, Dickens, Darwin, Newton, Kepler, Fermat, ... People who've been dead for more than 100 years... don't have to be Americans, or white men.

    Why would we put foreigners on U.S. coinage? I don't collect foreign coins but I can't imagine there are many other countries that put foreign people on their coins.

  • ricko
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    @CoinsAndMoreCoins ...... No, I do not care for them.... Now, that being said, I realize many people do like them and collect them... and they quarters brought a lot of YN's into the hobby (My Mother used to collect each type to give to the great grand kids....). To me, they are not even close to art, and I have a somewhat dated mentality that longs for real art on coinage. I now find more to admire on foreign coins....they still have pride in their nation, people and the coins that represent them. Cheers, RickO

  • DIMEMAN
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    @mr1874 said:
    Gasparro's Liberty design for the $1 that was rejected many years ago would be great to see on the new dime.

    I like that idea! :)

  • David1940
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    @MorganMan94 said:

    @David1940 said:
    I'd like to see more denomintations. 20 cents, two dollars, five dollars. That would be nice. More scientists and artists on coins rather than presidents. Twain, Dickens, Darwin, Newton, Kepler, Fermat, ... People who've been dead for more than 100 years... don't have to be Americans, or white men.

    Why would we put foreigners on U.S. coinage? I don't collect foreign coins but I can't imagine there are many other countries that put foreign people on their coins.

    I was going to say Einstein, and then realized he hadn't been dead for 100 years. Not born in the US, but definitely someone very important to the US. I self-limited to 100 years dead, which means that there are fewer people born in the US that qualify. Plus many scientists weren't born in the US, moved here, and did most of their notable work here. Same with writers. So I guess it depends on where you draw the line.

  • TommyType
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    1) Stop making the 1C coin. It's just not required, and actually COSTS money.
    2) With the money, production time, and equipment freed up from 1), improve the relief of the rest of current coinage. It's near impossible to create a truly good looking coin with flat little portraits and smashed little reverses.
    3) Complete re-design. Just send out a request for designs for "Any depiction of Liberty, Freedom, or concepts emblematic of the American Ideal". Let the ARTISTS interpret that, instead of giving narrow little requirements with no room to maneuver. We might get more portraits....but we might get animals, or activities, or landscapes, or statues, or eclectic artistic designs. Narrow the field AFTER you see what people come up with, rather than before they even start.
    4) Don't do it all at once. A rush just means settling for "the second class design that sucks less than the rest". If it takes 5 or 10 years to get really good looking designs on all coins, so be it.

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  • Hydrant
    Hydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Be careful what you wish for.

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @CoinsAndMoreCoins.... None of us alive today will see the elimination of coins...not even triple great grandchildren.... Cheers, RickO

  • Davideo
    Davideo Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭✭
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    I'm opposed to actual people of any sort on coins (presidents, scientists, natives, etc.). Once you put someone on a regular, circulating coin it will probably be tough to get them off.

  • Zoins
    Zoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @abcde12345 said:
    Is it time to update all of your various coin designs and mottos? For example, could we have a "liberty series" instead of presidents?

    This was proposed in Congress back in 2013 by Andy Barr (R-KY).

    Not sure how many collectors supported this with their Congressmen.

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  • boyernumismatics
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    @CoinsAndMoreCoins said:
    Much more deference and homage paid to the Natives. Trump made my eyebrow raise when he stated publicly that Andrew Jackson was the best United States President ever without disavowing the treaty-breaching and theft motivated Trail of Tears.

    Elizabeth Warren made my eyebrow raise when she states publicly that she was Native American, herself.

  • JBK
    JBK Posts: 17,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Hydrant said:
    Be careful what you wish for.

    Exactly.

    There is little to no consensus in this little thread - can you imagine what the politicians would do with this idea if THEY got a hold of it? We'd end up with a mishmash of politically correct subjects and maybe some cartoon characters.

    Any change that might occur should be slow and deliberate. Things could be a lot worse than they are now, and probably would be.

  • JBK
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    @CoinsAndMoreCoins said:
    Much more deference and homage paid to the Natives.

    I don't necessarily disagree at all, but I had been thinking about this very issue lately and I think America paid a lot more homage to the Native Americans than many people realize. We had Liberty dressed as an Indian on the cent starting in 1859 and kept her there for fifty years. In 1913 we had a representation of an Indian on the nickel, and also on gold coins of the era. We also had some popular Indian-themed banknotes.

  • neildrobertson
    neildrobertson Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    We still use the same denominations as we did when the buying power of the dollar was 5-10 times higher than it is now. It wouldn't be out of the question to make the nickel the smallest coin and introducing 1, 2, or 5 dollar coins.

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  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ABCDE12345 has had a remarkable transformation in English, sentence structure and comprehension. His Alt is taking over quickly!

  • epcjimi1
    epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
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    Do it, overhaul it all, make traditional 1964 and before US coins more collectible, introduce a bunch of PC design coins, make the current US Mint even more irrelevant.

  • ricko
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    @CoinsAndMoreCoins....You would lose that bet, but none of us will be around to pay or collect..... coins will be around for the next 500 years... if people are around.... more likely people go before coins. Cheers, RickO

  • BAJJERFAN
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    Why? 8 of the current quarters get my vehicles washed just fine. Who cares if our current coinage is purty?

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  • ricko
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    @CoinsAndMoreCoins...... I am certain coins, to use as money/medium of exchange, will be around. Cheers, RickO

  • KellenCoin
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    Yes, as long as we make it good :)

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  • abcde12345
    abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Will we see coins minted on plastic in your lifetime?

  • COCollector
    COCollector Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    We're long overdue to phase-out the cent and the one-dollar bill.

    And please, make a new dollar coin that's noticeably larger than a quarter.

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  • Cameonut
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    What's an overall in our coinage? Denim?

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  • Elmhurst
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    Considering the utility of the coins themselves (no collector or sentimental interest), the whole thing should be scraped and replaced with four coins: 10 cent, 20 cent, dollar, two dollars. All divisible into one another, and no more handfuls of cents and nickels with negligible buying power.

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