Ms- 67 worthy?

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anthonypacy
anthonypacy Posts: 23 ✭
edited March 23, 2017 7:42AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Should I send this to get slammed?


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  • david3142
    david3142 Posts: 3,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No. Too many spots. Looks more like a 64.

  • neildrobertson
    neildrobertson Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I would say not. I'd leave that guy raw. The coin has to basically be perfect to get an MS67.

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  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I would say no due to spots and a few contact marks. My understanding is that it is very difficult to get a 67 on these. I have a similar thread I started about a 1958 cent Here if you'd like to see the opinions there as well.
    Side note: Can you crop and resize the pictures to a reasonable size? I like the detail in your pics but only about 25% of those pixels are needed

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  • mercurydimeguy
    mercurydimeguy Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭✭
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    That would not 67. Here's a different year but a 65 for context, so you can compare...

  • AMRC
    AMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not in this space/time continuum.

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  • asheland
    asheland Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • CommemKing
    CommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No way. Too many hits.

  • mannie gray
    mannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No, it's a 64.

  • COINS MAKE CENTS
    COINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nope 64 maybe even a 63 because of the spots and hits

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  • abcde12345
    abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Opinions all over the board. Sent to pcgs, the final arbitrators!

  • rawteam1
    rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭
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    @abcde12345 said:
    Opinions all over the board. Sent to pcgs, the final arbitrators!

    Lol, why even ask then, send your money down the yellow river...

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  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @rawteam1 said:

    @abcde12345 said:
    Opinions all over the board. Sent to pcgs, the final arbitrators!

    Lol, why even ask then, send your money down the yellow river...

    This isn't the OP

    Collector, occasional seller

  • Azurescens
    Azurescens Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    57 and 58 are impossible to get perfect strikes on. That's a 64. I've gone through thousands now looking for a 66. With 1954 to 1960 being so problematic, the coin really has to be absolutely perfect to grade 67. It is difficult.

    (Try placing your loupe up to your phone lense and moving both in tandem. Tilt your phone towards you to reduce glare off the 2x2.)

  • david3142
    david3142 Posts: 3,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @abcde12345 said:
    Opinions all over the board. Sent to pcgs, the final arbitrators!

    You have made similar comments before. This is bad advice to be giving a new member looking for help. There are many people that can help screen for submissions. Not every coin needs to go to PCGS to have an idea of its true value.

  • dpoole
    dpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @abcde12345 said:
    Opinions all over the board. Sent to pcgs, the final arbitrators!

    That might be true were opinions truly "all over the board," particularly among the respected members here. But many experienced folks here can grade very capably, and have a handle on what the services like and dislike. And from what I can see, the consensus on this thread is strong and consistent: hits and spots will hurt this one, and it would not be economic to submit it.


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  • abcde12345
    abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Comes back with a top notch grade who's bellyaching then? Seems the same people who warned IWOG not to sell his commemoratives on ebay are the same ones who try to talk collectors out of submitting their finest coins to pcgs. Seems counterproductive and overly negative.

  • jy8s
    jy8s Posts: 113 ✭✭
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    You have some good feedback and I would also suggest using the other photos available through PCGS to visualize the feedback on Lincoln's

  • Fairlaneman
    Fairlaneman Posts: 10,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Smash Down the Reverse of the Staples on your 2x2' s. Many coins get wrecked with staples that are sticking up.

  • grip
    grip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Enlarge the obverse to many hits shoulder and head, plus the carbon spots
    maybe MS 63 at best.

  • abcde12345
    abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Careful smashing the staples. It's easy to accidently hit the coin. a super gem immediately becomes near worthless!

  • grip
    grip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No HAMMER. needle NOSE WORKs GREAT.

  • deefree49
    deefree49 Posts: 282 ✭✭✭
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    Could be a 65 but it is hard to tell from images. Compare yours to CoinFacts pictures from 56-D and other D mints from the 50's and that can help you figure it out.

    Lincoln coin lover, especially Matte Proofs
  • Pandavab
    Pandavab Posts: 960 ✭✭✭
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    Given all the spots and the few hits, I see it as a 63, maybe 64, as well. Definitely not a 67.

    Sorry to add on to what appears to be the consensus. I don't think anyone means to be rude by it, we're just trying to be helpful with some advice so you don't waste money submitting it.

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  • morgandollar1878
    morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Honestly I would call it an MS63, too many spots and hits to grade higher.

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  • sparky64
    sparky64 Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Welcome.
    I would not send that in.
    Keep digging.

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  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @anthonypacy.... Welcome aboard. To answer your question, I will also say no..that cent is way below an MS67...lucky to make 63/64..... However, that being said, you did the right thing by posing the question here.... Grading can be very tricky and takes a while to learn - even then, it is subjective. Hope to see more of your coins..... Cheers, RickO

  • DRUNNER
    DRUNNER Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Welcome . . .and as Ricko said above, despite some responses seeming a bit 'direct', you did the perfect thing in posing the question. If you ignore the outliers here, the majority opinions will be quite accurate and reflect what must be a thousand years + of numismatic experience at all levels. Tapping into that knowledge base is always a wise thing. It is perhaps the main advantage of the PCGS Boards.

    Have a good one . . .and keep up the search!

    Drunner

  • abcde12345
    abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS67 are worth hundreds of dollars. Why would you NOT want that graded?

  • crazyhounddog
    crazyhounddog Posts: 14,250 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A better image of the coin would help when judging any piece. My suggestion to you would be to purchase an ANA grading book and look it over. A lot of knowledge will be gained if you do so.
    I do like your enthusiasm .
    Carry on.

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  • lusterlover
    lusterlover Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭✭
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    It took 25 posts to welcome the poor guy. WELCOME fellow Lincoln collector!

    As stated, not a 67 and that green thing inside the C is not good (it's in the coin, not crust on the coin). Don't give up.

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  • Elcontador
    Elcontador Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I had a roll of RD 56 Ds I bought thirty some years ago. Eventually I sent it in. I got bulk grading where if it wasn't at least MS 66, it wasn't graded. 31 of them got into MS 66 holders. NONE of them got into an MS 67 holder.
    These coins were all no-brainer RD, no spots, no PVC or verdigris, etc. As someone else above wrote, it's almost impossible to get one of these in a 7 holder. That's why you have such a price jump between MS 66 and MS 67 re late date Wheaties.
    All of my MS 66s had one or two minute tic marks you almost had to look for to find.

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  • grip
    grip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It's a game and they own it.You would have to send in
    an MS68+ to get your pop 1 in 67. submissions =money.

  • anthonypacy
    anthonypacy Posts: 23 ✭
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    Thanks for the insight guys

  • Rexford
    Rexford Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2017 5:11AM
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