Should PCGS slab inserts be readable from above?

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Zoins
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edited April 6, 2017 10:12PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Some slabs like ANACS and SEGS have inserts that are readable from above. Should future PCGS slabs also have this feature?

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  • Cameonut
    Cameonut Posts: 7,436 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    I've commented a few times that SEGS has the best designed slab on the market.

    Too bad their grading skills are not up to PCGS standards.

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  • abcde12345
    abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    PCGS shouldn't charge more than $20. per coin though upon receipt of the older slabs for the new ones. (More if you're also looking at getting a second peak at the coin for grading).

  • KellenCoin
    KellenCoin Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    Might as well.

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  • Koinicker
    Koinicker Posts: 289 ✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    @elmiracoin said:
    Please keep religion out of these threads.

    Please elaborate....

  • Justacommeman
    Justacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    @lkeigwin said:
    Then I could stop doing this.
    Lance.

    With all the Overtons and other text you need them to wrap around the sides as well

    mark

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  • Azurescens
    Azurescens Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

  • Koinicker
    Koinicker Posts: 289 ✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    @elmiracoin said:

    @Koinicker said:

    @elmiracoin said:
    Please keep religion out of these threads.

    Please elaborate....

    I pity you if you don't understand the meaning of "from above."

    Then pity me!

  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,878 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    I wish.

  • ms70
    ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    It would be cool if the denomination, date, and grade could be "heat stamped" or sort of melted into the top of the slab.

  • abcde12345
    abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    Those labels look dumb.

  • Azurescens
    Azurescens Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    I think what @lkeigwin has going on is pretty fantastic. If pcgs did top and bottom like that it could be extra security too.

  • TurboSnail
    TurboSnail Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    Label on top and RFID tags within.

  • TonerGuy
    TonerGuy Posts: 590 ✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    @lkeigwin said:
    Then I could stop doing this.
    Lance.

    You could actually tape those to the inside top cover and not have to muck up the slabs... sorta how Whitman Chocolates do it with their Sampler Box...

  • Justacommeman
    Justacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 19, 2017 1:15AM
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    T> @TonerGuy said:

    @lkeigwin said:
    Then I could stop doing this.
    Lance.

    >

    You could actually tape those to the inside top cover and not have to muck up the slabs... sorta how Whitman Chocolates do it with their Sampler Box...

    Maybe they are taped to the plastic sleeves and not the slab Itself

    mark

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  • Justacommeman
    Justacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    Wow the votes are not even close 32 to 4 and 2 abstains

    Mark

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  • Coinstartled
    Coinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No, reading from the front is fine

    ....what else, a mini top cac sticker as well?

    C'mon.

  • Azurescens
    Azurescens Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    TBH yes. And an RFID or indicia, so I can hold my tablet over the coin in its holder and manipulate it in all 3 dimensions without ever having to touch it. They'd make tens of millions of dollars off this if they did it right. The cameras exist and the tech is there.

  • Azurescens
    Azurescens Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    It would literally be amazing if top labels had indicia imprints and someone could manipulate the coin in all 3 spacial dimensions and angles. I personally would love to hold my tablet up to a showcase at a show and be able to "handle" coins. The software exists to map the entire coin, so you could even change light sources and how the coin would look when you turn it.

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No, reading from the front is fine

    I am fine with reading from the front...Many of my slabs are in display drawers (face up) anyway.... Cheers, RickO

  • lkeigwin
    lkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    @TonerGuy said:
    You could actually tape those to the inside top cover and not have to muck up the slabs... sorta how Whitman Chocolates do it with their Sampler Box...

    Coins change slots to make room for others so a "lid map" isn't practical. Plus, why stop and refer to a map when you can just look at the coins?
    Lance.

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  • GRANDAM
    GRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No, reading from the front is fine

    If it was done correctly it might be OK but all the slabs I have seen that read from the top are the UGLIEST slabs and I would not want these in my collection

    GrandAm :)
  • OldIndianNutKase
    OldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    GREAT Suggestion. I hope this thread gets at least 100 posts.

  • TonerGuy
    TonerGuy Posts: 590 ✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    @lkeigwin said:

    @TonerGuy said:
    You could actually tape those to the inside top cover and not have to muck up the slabs... sorta how Whitman Chocolates do it with their Sampler Box...

    Coins change slots to make room for others so a "lid map" isn't practical. Plus, why stop and refer to a map when you can just look at the coins?
    Lance.

    Just a thought. I dont care for the plastic sleeves but to each his own.

  • lkeigwin
    lkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    @TonerGuy said:

    @lkeigwin said:

    @TonerGuy said:
    You could actually tape those to the inside top cover and not have to muck up the slabs... sorta how Whitman Chocolates do it with their Sampler Box...

    Coins change slots to make room for others so a "lid map" isn't practical. Plus, why stop and refer to a map when you can just look at the coins?
    Lance.

    Just a thought. I dont care for the plastic sleeves but to each his own.

    I'm with you on plastic sleeves. But I dislike scratched slabs more. It's nice the sleeves can be quickly and easily removed for viewing.
    Lance.

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  • Zoins
    Zoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 20, 2017 8:31PM
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    @DonWillis and @homerunhall

    Please see the poll results. It would be great if future PCGS slabs had inserts that can be read from above!

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  • TomB
    TomB Posts: 23,191 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Doesn't matter

    I see the utility of it, but don't care if they do it. Heck, to me that is an improvement in my embracing of change given that I initially did not like the prong gasket, which I now like and think PCGS made a good decision by using the design. Still an old curmudgeon, but perhaps more adaptable.

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  • koynekwest
    koynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    Yes-top labeling is a great idea.

  • BUFFNIXX
    BUFFNIXX Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    SEGS has the best slab in the market. And I will attested to their grading skills too; I have seen grading abominations in all slabs too, just recently had a chance to view a so-called VF20 1918/7-d buff nickel that looks like a vg08 slabbed by one of the leading grading services.

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  • TonerGuy
    TonerGuy Posts: 590 ✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    @Zoins said:
    @DonWillis and @homerunhall

    Please see the poll results. It would be great if future PCGS slabs had inserts that can be read from above!

    Without having done a search, SEGS probably has a patent on the top reading slab which means that PCGS would have to license the technology from them. I doubt PCGS would want the market confusion of their slabs looking like SEGs slabs. And of course the expense of retooling all of the machinery.

  • Zoins
    Zoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 21, 2017 8:49AM
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    @TonerGuy said:
    Without having done a search, SEGS probably has a patent on the top reading slab which means that PCGS would have to license the technology from them. I doubt PCGS would want the market confusion of their slabs looking like SEGs slabs. And of course the expense of retooling all of the machinery.

    Some questions on the SEGS slabs:

    • Anyone know if ANACS licensed a patent from SEGS?
    • Anyone ever confuse ANACS and SEGS slabs?
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  • coin4sale
    coin4sale Posts: 375 ✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    Ok, to avoid retooling the existing slab how about ... say for $1 more per slab, if requested, they send you a "host printed" sticker or label, that you can apply to the edge ?

    BT&C
  • boyernumismatics
    boyernumismatics Posts: 473 ✭✭✭✭
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    No, reading from the front is fine

    I think that would be quite lazy...the day that I cannot bring myself to waste the half a calorie it takes to lift the slab out of the box to look at the label is the day that I find something else to do with my life...

  • Justacommeman
    Justacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    Wow the votes are not even close 32 to 4 and 2 abstains

    Mark> @Coinstartled said:

    ....what else, a mini top cac sticker as well?

    C'mon.

    Great idea Mark!

    marks

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  • BStrauss3
    BStrauss3 Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Zoins said:

    @TonerGuy said:
    Without having done a search, SEGS probably has a patent on the top reading slab which means that PCGS would have to license the technology from them. I doubt PCGS would want the market confusion of their slabs looking like SEGs slabs. And of course the expense of retooling all of the machinery.

    Some questions on the SEGS slabs:

    • Anyone know if ANACS licensed a patent from SEGS?
    • Anyone ever confuse ANACS and SEGS slabs?

    I have not been able to find an ANACS patent.
    SEGS' patent is a DESIGN patent (the decorative appearance of their slab) and has expired.

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  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,878 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    I've commented a few times that SEGS has the best designed slab on the market.

    That would make crack outs much harder! You practically need a saw to open them.

  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,878 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    @ms70 said:
    Haven't posted this in awhile, so here goes for all the newbies...

    Where will the CAC sticker go?

  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,878 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    @Justacommeman said:
    Wow the votes are not even close 32 to 4 and 2 abstains

    I hope PCGS is reading this. Maybe it will be incorporate this feature when the next slab generation comes out.

  • ms70
    ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2017 3:26PM
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    @cameonut2011 said:

    Where will the CAC sticker go?

    That green area is the reserved spot for it. The new larger blue boxes will be quite heavy when full.

  • Stooge
    Stooge Posts: 4,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    At what point do we stop changing the slab and leave it as is?
    I like the current slab, even though I think it would be nice to be able to read it from above, but what about just labeling the box?


    Later, Paul.
  • Zoins
    Zoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I like to read them from the top

    @Stooge said:
    At what point do we stop changing the slab and leave it as is?

    When there's nothing left to improve ;)

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  • slenda
    slenda Posts: 57 ✭✭
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    Slabs will always be upgraded as time goes by, just like cars. But YES, they should be readable from the top like the Anacs slabs but I think we are in for a long wait, the new slab is a major change, to have it show on the top would be another major change, also NGC doesn't show on the top either.

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