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JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 15, 2017 9:07PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I mentioned in another thread I bought a 42-s at the recent Long Beach Show. At the time it completed my toned short set which was 11 years in the making and which I was told it couldn't be done ; )

The 42-s was indeed the most elusive to find with any attractive toning to speak of. I cracked the coin at the show ( PCGS 65 ) and submitted it raw. It did come back a 66 which I was fairly certain it would.

Mark

Walker Proof Digital Album
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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well done.

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You da man MJ. Since already in PCGS plastic, why not just have them regrade it? Either way they see it raw again. Only on the regrade you are sure they cannot grade it 64, question the toning, etc. Interested in your reasoning.

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  • BruceSBruceS Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a hammered strike and love the color. Congrats Mike. Nice upgrade.


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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome Mark!!

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is indeed a winner - I imagine turning the coin in hand is even more special. :+1:

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah! WTG, Mark. Lovely half.
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  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,979 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Superb!

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 15, 2017 11:46PM

    @roadrunner said:
    You da man MJ. Since already in PCGS plastic, why not just have them regrade it? Either way they see it raw again. Only on the regrade you are sure they cannot grade it 64, question the toning, etc. Interested in your reasoning.

    I've used the regular service before but call me old fashioned or just plain stubborn on this one.I've always tried to buy coins that if cracked 100 times they would come back in the same grade or better 100 times. Maybe I was just subliminally challenging myself and nothing more. I didn't see a downside and didn't really thing twice about it. I bought it from Shamhart and we both thought strongly it was a 66. It's my series and their all his series : ). I kind of bought it as a 66 with some wiggle room for me taking the chance.

    FWIW I was the under bidder on this coin @ 3x price guide.

    https://coins.ha.com/itm/walking-liberty-half-dollars/half-dollars/1942-s-50c-ms66-pcgs-cac-pcgs-population-498-7-ngc-census-196-11-cdn-580-whsle-bid-for-problem-free-ngc-pcgs-m/a/1240-7479.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515#

    I thought the coin I bought was superior in every way. Just needed it in the right holder for it all to play out as I intended. Ended up with the better coin and paid a little less. I also lost out on 66 +about year ago in a Legend auction that hammed at 8 times guide or about 5k. It was a nice coin. Like mine better.

    Sometimes it works out.

    Mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
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  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Super Nice!!

    Congrat's!!!

    :)

  • AuroraBorealisAuroraBorealis Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice upgrade for an extremely beautiful PQ Walker! And again a huge congrats for completing your 11 year go on your short set... :)

  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice coin. To me strike is a little weak, but 66 is a good score for you.

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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I remember that thread and what an Awesomely Beautiful coin! It's fun to watch smart people work and almost every time it pays well for them...Nice Work ;)

  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do think it is beautiful. I don't think it is a hammered strike though. The strike is rather typical. Still, for a coin this pretty, and to buy it in a 65 holder, you did very, very well. Congrats!

    Tom

  • COINS MAKE CENTSCOINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now that's a nice coin there congrats

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 15, 2017 11:50PM

    @TPRC said:
    I do think it is beautiful. I don't think it is a hammered strike though. The strike is rather typical. Still, for a coin this pretty, and to buy it in a 65 holder, you did very, very well. Congrats!

    I agree with you and OldIndianNutcase. Strike is what it is. Typical strike for the issue which I mentioned when I bought it.

    And thanks Erik!

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for sharing with us "the rest of the story."

  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful Walker. She makes a nice picture as well.
    Congrats!

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  • JBNJBN Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I took a look at the large TrueView. The right field looks pristine. Negligible bit of noise on a ray. Skirt lines end at the knee for the center band. Liberty's hip looks mark free. Liberty's head also mark free.

    The reverse is wonderful. The eagle's left leg is mark free. Negligible bit of noise well hidden in eagle's feathers.

    It is a 42-S in the strike dept. However, Liberty's head is mark free, and you have mark free hip and eagle's left leg areas.

    To me, basically, the colors are transcendent. Full color in Liberty's field of vision. Personally I like a little red highlighting the date, as in your example. I say the same for light lavender color effects also. I would overlook a small toning splotch on an example of this quality, but yours has none! Pardon my language, but Holy Shit!

    A half dollar that would be wonderful to see in hand.

    Whew what an excellent 42-S!!! HEARTY Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • VeepVeep Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭✭

    My short set is bright white but I can sure see the attraction in that one. Congrats on completing your set. When I completed my set of 1936-42 proofs, it felt good but also kind of left a void after so many years of pursuit. Good luck finding another obsession.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The wide open fields on that coin look amazing clean. Not bad toning and eye appeal, either! Well done!

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful Walker Mark. Takes guts to crack out a 65, but you know your stuff...well done!

  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭✭

    Nice S strike

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,200 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats!

  • shishshish Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations on a beautiful coin and the completion of your set. Any ideas for your next challenge?

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 16, 2017 8:44AM

    Congrats Mark! That is a smooth '42-S. There's maybe just a tick or two in the right field but miniscule. Devices are clean and the reverse is great. It has the most color that I've ever seen for the issue. Quite honestly, even more colorful than what I expected. Strike is typical. Great MS 66 Walker and deserving of the grade. Nice job!

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  • cnncoinscnncoins Posts: 414 ✭✭✭✭

    Very pretty coin Mark! Especially for a 42-S! I agree that it is better to send these in raw. The graders will just "grade the coins" and have no preconceived notion of what grade they were. I know I've made mistakes on my grades where I've had to fight to get a coin back in the original grade, but if you feel confident in your grading abilities (and you certainly know how to grade Walkers), and you grade the coin the NEXT grade up, you should feel confident enough to crack it and send it raw.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,755 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well done!

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations! Do you have a digital PCGS album for your mint state short set?

  • AblinkyAblinky Posts: 628 ✭✭✭

    Congrats, and beautiful looking coin. I'd happily swap out my white 42-S in 66 for that one.

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,068 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You always have had a GREAT eye, Mark. No exception here.
    Well done

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,843 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    that is an exceptionally beautiful Walker! Congrats on completing the set.

  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,258 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Spectacular toning. If JBN approves, you know it is legit. Time to put the whole set up so we can see it! Registry or just showcase - we want to see it next to your proofs.

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  • gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is one heavenly walker!

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @breakdown said:
    Spectacular toning. If JBN approves, you know it is legit. Time to put the whole set up so we can see it! Registry or just showcase - we want to see it next to your proofs.

    Please hold. Sometimes it's never over til it's over . I sold off two of the coins as I thought they could stand an upgrade

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the only constant is change.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice coin and appreciate your quality focused approach to building your set

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations on the 66 Walker and completing your set.... A WLH set at that level is indeed something to be proud of... Cheers, RickO

  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations and I love the coin. Further congratulations on completing a toned set. People who don't collect pretty toning don't realize how hard it is to get a full toned set done. Every date comes toned, but nicely toned is a far different challenge.

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  • DancingFireDancingFire Posts: 311 ✭✭✭

    Congrats, well done!

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Preach brother! There are not enough proponents for cracking and resubmitting. It's a coward's play otherwise.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 17, 2017 6:57PM

    @abcde12345 said:
    Preach brother! There are not enough proponents for cracking and resubmitting. It's a coward's play otherwise.

    What is wrong with a regrade? The coin is graded raw (and blindly by the graders), but the guarantee is there to protect in the event of a downgrade. I don't think there was any real risk with this piece, but as a general matter, I think a regrade is preferable.

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  • NicNic Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    I mentioned in another thread I bought a 42-s at the recent Long Beach Show. At the time it completed my toned short set which was 11 years in the making and which I was told it couldn't be done ; )

    The 42-s was indeed the most elusive to find with any attractive toning to speak of. I cracked the coin at the show ( PCGS 65 ) and submitted it raw. It did come back a 66 which I was fairly certain it would.

    Mark

    Beautiful coin!

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