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Exceptional piece of Charlotte gold

kazkaz Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 4, 2017 8:07PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I noticed this on the Legend website. I am just amazed at the state of preservation of this 1853-C half eagle. Does anyone know anything about the history of this piece?
http://www.legendnumismatics.com/product/5-1853c-pcgs-ms64-ex-bassbareford/

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dang! That's insanely nice!!!

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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    :oB)

  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    amazing piece

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Shazam!

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  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for sharing. Makes me appreciate having held onto one of the first gold pieces I purchased which just happened to come from one of the Southern mints. I didn't appreciate back then how rare quality gold from those mints actually is since PCGS and NGC were just coming of age.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @kaz said:
    I noticed this on the Legend website. I am just amazed at the state of preservation of this 1853-C half eagle. Does anyone know anything about the history of this piece?
    http://www.legendnumismatics.com/product/5-1853c-pcgs-ms64-ex-bassbareford/

    This piece is indeed special! It as noted came from the 1978 Stacks Bareford sale as lot 173. The sale featured some very memorable high end half eagles. I have the catalog back in the US but don't have access to it. The Bass II catalog I do have and it notes it was previous to that it was in the Kosoff March 1948 "A Memorable Collection... which was J.F. Bell". Funny in the Bass II catalog, they made an error in the description for this coin citing it in both Bell and "Memorable" for the same date and lot # when in actuality they are the same sale.

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the information, Boosibri!

  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2017 6:20AM

    J.F.Bell was a pseudonym; his real name was Jacob F. Shapiro. He assembled important collections, emphasizing U.S. and pioneer gold coins. They were mostly sold in the 1940's. Stack's sold much of his collection in 1944. and that catalog is still considered moderately important.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a very nice gold coin.... Cheers, RickO

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've been trying to justify buying this coin. It kept me up last night

    mark

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    I've been trying to justify buying this coin. It kept me up last night

    mark

    If I had the resources, it would be mine!

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  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    I've been trying to justify buying this coin. It kept me up last night

    mark

    the coin's condition speaks for itself. it's about as good as you can hope for, from the charlotte mint, esp. sharp strike, original skin, no distracting marks, beautiful color, and provenance.

    i would say that if:

    • the price is right
    • you can afford it
    • you have a place for it in your collection

    pull the trigger!

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    I've been trying to justify buying this coin. It kept me up last night

    mark

    If I had your money I would burn mine!

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    I've been trying to justify buying this coin. It kept me up last night

    mark

    If I had the resources, it would be mine!

    I'm trying to figure out what organs I can do without

    mark

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    I've been trying to justify buying this coin. It kept me up last night

    mark

    If I had your money I would burn mine!

    Ha, I'm married now. My wife's shoe and handbag want list makes my coin want list look meager.

    mark

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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You're worried about shoes and handbags??? Try dressage horses (thankfully, we're down to 3).

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  • ProofmorganProofmorgan Posts: 831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks like Legend sold it at Auction for $64,625 a couple years ago. The price seems a bit high considering they definitely paid less than that for the coin. Don't get me wrong, I'd buy it if I wasn't tied up in so many other pieces and the price was right.

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Sonorandesertrat said:
    You're worried about shoes and handbags??? Try dressage horses (thankfully, we're down to 3).

    My wife is an octopus

    mark

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  • CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 3,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's definitely a nice coin for Charlotte product, but $75K is awfully strong.

    'dude

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,258 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Sonorandesertrat said:
    You're worried about shoes and handbags??? Try dressage horses (thankfully, we're down to 3).

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Try dressage horses." Yep... Horses are expensive... I had Arabians for years.... they are definitely costly...
    Cheers, RickO

  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,402 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I totally get the rarity of this issue, especially in this high grade, but do you agree with the following (I certainly don't).....

    "Plus, it blows away just about any MS64 that is a common date that you expect to look really good! "

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  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @northcoin said:
    Thanks for sharing. Makes me appreciate having held onto one of the first gold pieces I purchased which just happened to come from one of the Southern mints. I didn't appreciate back then how rare quality gold from those mints actually is since PCGS and NGC were just coming of age.

    This thread prompted me to go back and locate the subject coin. Confirmed that is was a $5 from the Dahlonega Mint purchased before 2000.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @northcoin said:

    @northcoin said:
    Thanks for sharing. Makes me appreciate having held onto one of the first gold pieces I purchased which just happened to come from one of the Southern mints. I didn't appreciate back then how rare quality gold from those mints actually is since PCGS and NGC were just coming of age.


    This thread prompted me to go back and locate the subject coin. Confirmed that is was a $5 from the Dahlonega Mint purchased before 2000.

    Is it for sale ?? :)

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  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 8, 2017 11:11AM

    @Boosibri said:

    @northcoin said:

    @northcoin said:
    Thanks for sharing. Makes me appreciate having held onto one of the first gold pieces I purchased which just happened to come from one of the Southern mints. I didn't appreciate back then how rare quality gold from those mints actually is since PCGS and NGC were just coming of age.


    This thread prompted me to go back and locate the subject coin. Confirmed that is was a $5 from the Dahlonega Mint purchased before 2000.

    Is it for sale ?? :)

    While it was one of the first pieces of gold I acquired I can't say I have an emotional attachment to it just for that reason - so yes, I could see letting it go.

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like that piece has lead a long and pampered life. :smile:

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