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Hudson half in the 90% junk silver on eBay - No Way!

hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,842 ✭✭✭✭✭

Check it out. I waited a week before posting. I saw this auction go down and thought to myself that the buyer got a great deal. What do you think?

Hudson Half in 90%

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    MorganMan94MorganMan94 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 29, 2017 5:49PM

    The auction description about no returns and he doesn't know if it is real or not would be enough to scare me off.
    Edit: Moon on the Hudson does not look right.

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    hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,842 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some of the letters look funky :o

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Doh!

    Hope the buyer sees this and recoups his money!

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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,715 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Impressive, in a way. That's by far the worst counterfeit Hudson I've ever seen.

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    hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,842 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's funny!

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    PushkinPushkin Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭

    Does seem to be a little bit of detail missing. :o

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    CoinlearnerCoinlearner Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Check feedback. The buyer was very pleased with the sale....Til when he/she decides to sell.... :o

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    goldengolden Posts: 10,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow.

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    WmwoodWmwood Posts: 102 ✭✭

    Does the Franklin look milk chocolate filled?

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    It's counterfeit and was place there for a fool to bid it up.

    You need 2 fools to tangle

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    itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,787 ✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:

    @TomB said:
    It's counterfeit and was place there for a fool to bid it up.

    You need 2 fools to tangle

    Or just one and a shill bidder. Amazing how far that is from the real thing.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @itsnotjustme said:

    @davewesen said:

    @TomB said:
    It's counterfeit and was place there for a fool to bid it up.

    You need 2 fools to tangle

    Or just one and a shill bidder. Amazing how far that is from the real thing.

    The bidding looks legit to me. The underbidder bid was placed 2 days before the end of the auction and has 0 bids with this seller in the last 30 days.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,965 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sucker bait.

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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It will work you see it all the time.



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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 29, 2017 9:54PM

    @davewesen said:

    Or just one and a shill bidder. Amazing how far that is from the real thing.

    The bidding looks legit to me. The under-bidder bid was placed 2 days before the end of the auction and has 0 bids with this seller in the last 30 days.

    That bidder put in an earlier bid with 4 days to go. Looks shilly to me. Just because they haven't used this account in the past 30 days doesn't mean it's not a shill. I'd be happy to pull down $200 on a monthly auction like this....$2400 per year. 10 different shill accounts and you jump to $24K per year. Can't believe that a buyer with over 5,000 Feedbacks could fall for this one. $15-$25 in coins for $224 + shipping. Great deal! But, they could be a shill too if the goal is to build confidence in this seller for those getting "great deals" from this "clueless" seller who sells estate/storage unit coins for melt. Now tell me storage unit buyers don't vet the potentially valuable items they are unsure of....... :D

    The staples aren't even pushed down flat on the 2x2's. Seller is in a hurry. Do any real dealers leave them like that?

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    abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sure looks fake on my monitor.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 29, 2017 11:10PM

    @roadrunner said:

    @davewesen said:

    Or just one and a shill bidder. Amazing how far that is from the real thing.

    The bidding looks legit to me. The under-bidder bid was placed 2 days before the end of the auction and has 0 bids with this seller in the last 30 days.

    That bidder put in an earlier bid with 4 days to go. Looks shilly to me. Just because they haven't used this account in the past 30 days doesn't mean it's not a shill. I'd be happy to pull down $200 on a monthly auction like this....$2400 per year. 10 different shill accounts and you jump to $24K per year. Can't believe that a buyer with over 5,000 Feedbacks could fall for this one. $15-$25 in coins for $224 + shipping. Great deal! But, they could be a shill too if the goal is to build confidence in this seller for those getting "great deals" from this "clueless" seller who sells estate/storage unit coins for melt. Now tell me storage unit buyers don't vet the potentially valuable items they are unsure of....... :D

    The staples aren't even pushed down flat on the 2x2's. Seller is in a hurry. Do any real dealers leave them like that?

    Ah, you're right, a shiller can bid early but won't bid late.

    Good observation on the staples!

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Such an obvious fake.... should be obvious to anyone who collects commemoratives... Cheers, RickO

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,814 ✭✭✭✭✭

    both the 64 kennedy and that hudson half do not look right. pass (and glad of it)

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,085 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2017 9:49AM

    Not familiar with the commem, but the end price does not indicate "junk" silver.

    Apparently I did not read "junk" correctly, being a fake commemorative.

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    mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭

    with the comparison shot, that hudson looks way off.

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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,040 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That Hudson is no good.

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    itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,787 ✭✭✭

    Interesting to note these differences:

    • The staples are different on the fake Hudson than the three other coins
    • The 2x2 with the fake is brand new
    • The 2x2 with the fake has no writing on it
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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Pushkin said:
    Does seem to be a little bit of detail missing. :o

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    1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another great forensic analysis by the team here on this forum. Thanks for the education. :smile:

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pitiful fake!

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