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Updated photos. 1831 1/2 Dime GTG on the way to our host soon.

coffeycecoffeyce Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
edited January 23, 2017 9:43PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I rarely buy US coinage and never seen a capped bust 1/2 dime until i obtained this one. Any guesses on the grade/value.

I would guess about AU.


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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    Sorry, but it looks cleaned to me. I'd say it will come back XF Details.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    TO is likely correct..... let us know when you get it back... Cheers, RickO

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    Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 6,501 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Depends on luster and surfaces, from a wear perspective I would give it a AU50.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,978 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 10, 2017 7:58AM

    I think that the coin has AU details, but the surfaces look dull and lifeless in the photo. That is an indicator of an improper cleaning. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

    The surfaces should look more the skin that this piece has. This is a Mint State example.


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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF details, if what looks like a cleaning isn't too bad, it gets graded 35.

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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm thinking it's just a bad photo. Taking that into consideration I'd say AU53.

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF40 details

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,978 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 10, 2017 11:21AM

    @ms70 said:
    I'm thinking it's just a bad photo. Taking that into consideration I'd say AU53.

    Just clarify, I submitted this 1796 half dime, which had a similar look, to NGC for grading and they refused grade it because it was "cleaned." I tried to appeal that decision and got nowhere. The grading services sometimes go easy on early coins, but not in this case. I thought that this coin should have gotten a grade somewhere between VF-30 and EF-40.


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    clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 5,040 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a scan, so who knows how those surfaces will look.

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,535 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @clarkbar04 said:
    Looks like a scan, so who knows how those surfaces will look.

    my thoughts exactly.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've seen coins look like that after removing a heavy long time coating of PVC with acetone.

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    coffeycecoffeyce Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭

    ill update my pictures in hand once it arrives. thanks for all your feedback I greatly appreciate it.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones ....That Half Dime certainly does not look 'cleaned' in the pictures... nice old coin. Cheers, RickO

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bill's coin looks ok to me, too... Maybe slight hairlines we can't see in the picture?

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,948 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @BillJones ....That Half Dime certainly does not look 'cleaned' in the pictures... nice old coin. Cheers, RickO

    I agree, probably on the line but the graders have much better eyes than I do. There might be a remedy with a Wayte Raymond holder maybe put it out on a sunny windowsill for a summer--originality.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would send that 1796 in again. Many times I have cracked a coin PCGS called cleaned and it straight graded the next time!

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,978 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    I would send that 1796 in again. Many times I have cracked a coin PCGS called cleaned and it straight graded the next time!

    Too late. I took my $1,000 loss and sent it out to pasture.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    I would send that 1796 in again. Many times I have cracked a coin PCGS called cleaned and it straight graded the next time!

    Too late. I took my $1,000 loss and sent it out to pasture.

    So have you been watching for it to see if it made into a straight graded holder? Wouldn't surprise me one bit from the pictures!

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    coffeycecoffeyce Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2017 9:47PM

    Here are the coin in hand photos.


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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    If you change pictures, I'll change my grade.

    Based on the new photo's I'll say it will come back AU55

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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Doesn't look like there is any luster left.

    AU Details.

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    yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,329 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like it's LM-6, if you are interested.
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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    TPGs used to "bag" them when they looked like this; now it's a roll of the dice.
    I wouldn't like the coin in a straight graded holder, sorry.
    AU details to me.

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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 24, 2017 4:54AM

    40

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