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Will this 1834 $5 Gold Grade? or Cleaned?
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I'm always surprised on how these get graded, higher than you would expect. ?
Has a few hairlines, but so does the graded one I have, so possibly it could grade.
Fine and cleaned per where you bought it.
definitely cleaned. it may grade 30/35 because the value is about the same.
It will not grade with a number.
Shouldn't grade but sure might as I see slabbed gold like this at smaller shows in pronged holders.
Looks like a heavily circulated soft metal coin. Put me in the "it will grade" camp.
I will send it in eventually and let you know what happens. I bought it from these pics as being fine and cleaned. I did not agree with the fine condition and it looked all of VF to me, and then started to question the cleaning too. I do not have in hand yet, but in looking at other images online it does seem that many in straight grade holders have just as many marks on them.
The question isn't if it has been cleaned, it is if that cleaning is market acceptable. I'd venture to guess not but stranger things have happened.
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Might not grade.... although sometimes they do let gold slip through.... still think it will be genuine.. Cheers, RickO
Given the sharpness grade, the cleaning might be the last straw that will insure that it won't get a grade.
The sharpness grade is Fine. It might actually be a low VF. Many examples of this coin were flatly struck on the obverse.
Cleaned, details grade in the VF range.
This is one I sent in recently, came back AU details cleaned.
I was a little disappointed.
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Submit it and find out - it's worth enough to justify the fee.
Its tough to find older gold that's NOT been cleaned at one time or another; it was the thing to do once upon a time. The services have certainly elected to grade some of that gold ("it depends") . Certainly worth a submission, IMHO.
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Honestly can't tell from your pic if I think it will grade.
Worth giving it a shot at grading. Added bonus is that it is a rarer die pair. A McC 2-C. 2nd rarest out of 9 die pair for 1834 $5, and I rate it an R - 4.
Thanks for the info on the die pairs. Can this be added to the holders on a coin like this?
No. Die pairs on CHG aren't that well known. TPGs only recognize the 1834 Crosslet 4 die pair on the holder, because it is the most publicized and easily recognized.
I think it has about a 40% chance of straight grading.
They can be all over the place on gold and sometimes early silver too.
I saw two coins at a recent show, one a Barber Half in AU50 and a Seated Half in AU53 that were so obnoxiously cleaned I was quite surprised they were straight graded. They were not rare dates either.
Recently graded in the newer thicker holders.