20 cent grade thoughts

Fine 15? Reverse seems a bit sharper than the obverse.

Odd coin. I'll guess 35 at PCGS.
30 if I were buying and 40 if selling.

For those thinking this coin is only a F or so, keep in mind that this is the only US coin series where LIBERTY is raised and not incuse. You can't grade these coins quickly through the use of LIBERTY as you would a Seated Liberty series. The obverse on this coin looks VF30 or so to me and the reverse a little better.

F12

I will never be the first one to guess again...LOL
I was way off!

XF45!!!!! I'll bet that one never gets cracked out.

My thought was VF35

If you got it graded 45 congrats on the highest possible grade. I'd call it a 35/40 coin. Closest to XF40 imo and that's what I'd go with. Looks like it might have been obverse down in a drawer, or maybe in an album. Some light hairline scratches left to right across the obv and on the right side rim.

I would not pay anywhere near 45 money for this coin!

Photograde like vf25 obv and 45 rev.
The toning and wear differences obv to rev makes it look like 2 different coins.
Wouldn't spend xf45 money on it.

First blush, I was at the 30-35 grade. Reverse does look better, but grade is largely on obverse.
I don't like how the LIBERTY wears so quickly and easily on these

@oih82w8 said:
I was going to give her a VF35.

Me too.

After several comments, it seems I am the sole person in the EF camp with exception of the Luke warm 40 attributed to Roadrunner. I stand by my evaluation and let me explain why.

This coin has a weak obverse. And we know it is weak based on what other 1875-s 20 cent pieces look like as well as the pattern of wear. Consider looking at the high points of the eagle... The outer edges of the eagle wings and the breast feathers. The reverse is quite sharp which tends to support an EF grade in that this coin saw minimal circulation. For those of you slamming the coin for the weak obverse appearance and attributing it to circulation wear, then please explain the surviving strength go the eagle. The reality is that this coin is quite typical for the date. The surfaces look attractive and likely better in hand which supports the PCGS grade. I would consider a 45 grade after an in hand review. However, the few obverse hairlines-especially the one through the head of the seated Ms. Liberty- was my deciding factor in my 40 opinion instead of 45.

Here is a decent one..... Don't recall any hairlines or it would have mattered at purchase time.

@stman said:
Here is a decent one..... Don't recall any hairlines or it would have mattered at purchase time.

That is a very nice VF double dime. The eagle's right wing shows typical strike weakness (which is generally much more prevalant on 75-CC coins). Nice even wear between the obverse and reverse.

Just for kicks I put these two obverses side by side for a look.

@VanHalen said:
Just for kicks I put these two obverses side by side for a look.

What that says to me is that lightly toned coins may get a better grade when they are not impaired or "cleaned". They used to say that dipped out gold coins would get an extra point or more but you would lose the original surfaces, hence the CAC advantage. Probably overgraded, it happens I don't know what the price spread is.

In my experience CAC won't sticker many coins that aren't original unless they are really nice, even if they a substantially under-graded.

@logger7 said:
In my experience CAC won't sticker many coins that aren't original unless they are really nice, even if they a substantially under-graded.

I strongly disagree. I do see you now added many coins and "unless they are really nice. I see this statement spread around here that they only sticker original coins. Wishful thinking me thinks. They may like original coins.