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Removing a pedigree from a slab

csanotescsanotes Posts: 476 ✭✭✭✭

I was wondering if anyone has any experience in possibly getting a PCGS slabbed coin Trueviewed, and while it is there getting it reholdered and remove a pedigree? There are a handful of coins I have that I would like to remove the name from the label in the slab. Although I totally believe that knowing the history of ownership of a coin can be useful against the coin doctors and upgraders who wish to squeeze every point and sticker from a coin, a fair amount of pedigrees aren't all that exciting to me. With advances in photography, auction catalogs and websites, it is still very easy to keep a paper-trail of evidence that can go with any coin when it is bought or sold. I am sure, and hope, that others disagree--however, I just don't find many of the "new" and some of the old pedigrees to have a very interesting backstory of acquisition. My Simpson, Teich and Richmond labels would be more neat and orderly without their names cluttering the label. Eliasberg, Garrett, Bass--completely different story.

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    would not bother me to remove minor label names.

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had it done once a long time ago. I forget what name it was but it wasn't one of the big name pedigrees. Having a pedigree name on the label does nothing for me.

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  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You want to remove a Simpson label? You do know that his pedigree adds value right?

    The more you VAM..
  • mvs7mvs7 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just put "please remove pedigree" in the 'special comments' on the PCGS submission form. I've used this a number of times to remove minor pedigrees that I didn't care for.

  • csanotescsanotes Posts: 476 ✭✭✭✭

    @CascadeChris said:
    You want to remove a Simpson label? You do know that his pedigree adds value right?

    I have two Morgans of his and will remove it when I get a nice tidy box of coins to ship in or submit at a show. I let the coin in the slab do all the work, not his name on the tag. His name is just clutter or dust that needs to be cleaned up, that's all I see it as.

    Chance favors the prepared mind.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,406 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those aren't bad provenances' especially Simpson. That can only add value or at least liquidity. Richmond was expansive but quality was so so.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have never cared for pedigrees.... I know many do and that is fine. For me, what collector owned a coin is irrelevant. Now, if a coin could be traced to G. Washington, A. Lincoln or A. Hamilton, as examples, that would be significant. Real history is meaningful to me. I also realize that other collectors see such provenance as important and attach value because of it. Since I do not sell coins, I just do not care. Cheers, RickO

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pedigrees are important for rare, high grade coins that may have passed through the hands of substantial collectors. They also help to keep tabs on the rarity of key date pieces. If the same coin can be indentified by a pedigree, it prevents the perception that a certain coin is more common than people might have thought if it appears several times in auctions or private sale listings. Yes, photographs are useful in keeping tabs on a given coin, but as we all know, photographs taken at different angles and under different lighting conditions can make a coin look very differently.

    I agree that minor "vanity" pedigrees can annoying. I see nothing wrong with removing those if you are so inclined.

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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭

    Some pedigrees add value and/or liquidity, some don't, all can be removed easily at any time by just reholdering the coin and writing "Remove pedigree" on the submission form.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have cracked out pedigree coins which had PVC damage (needed a dip, then send for grading) and no regrets.

    Investor

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