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My 2003 truck with 151,000 miles has transmission issues so it's time to buy something else. My wife doesn't understand that instead of buying a new car, I could buy a dozen lower-grade PCGS 1893-S Morgan Dollars and take the bus to work.
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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd get a new car
  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This thread is rather timely since I have been tearing my engine apart all day.

    I came in to take a break and decide whether to continue or just drink beer and

    think about it.

    It's always good to slow down and think about what to do next. image
  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    My 2003 truck with 151,000 miles has transmission issues so it's time to buy something else. My wife doesn't understand that instead of buying a new car, I could buy a dozen lower-grade PCGS 1893-S Morgan Dollars and take the bus to work.


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  • au58au58 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    My 2003 truck with 151,000 miles has transmission issues so it's time to buy something else. My wife doesn't understand that instead of buying a new car, I could buy a dozen lower-grade PCGS 1893-S Morgan Dollars and take the bus to work.


    151K miles????
    Needs a transmission???
    A Ford???
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    My 2003 truck with 151,000 miles has transmission issues so it's time to buy something else. My wife doesn't understand that instead of buying a new car, I could buy a dozen lower-grade PCGS 1893-S Morgan Dollars and take the bus to work.



    I'm all for buying the coins and taking the bus, but why hoard 93-S Dollars?


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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: MrEureka
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    My 2003 truck with 151,000 miles has transmission issues so it's time to buy something else. My wife doesn't understand that instead of buying a new car, I could buy a dozen lower-grade PCGS 1893-S Morgan Dollars and take the bus to work.



    I'm all for buying the coins and taking the bus, but why hoard 93-S Dollars?





    I think it's called being rhetorical.

    Perhaps you were doing the same.

    Either way, I hate the bus. Especially downtown buses. I'd rather poke myself in the eye with a sharp stick.

  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,537 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: au58
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    My 2003 truck with 151,000 miles has transmission issues so it's time to buy something else. My wife doesn't understand that instead of buying a new car, I could buy a dozen lower-grade PCGS 1893-S Morgan Dollars and take the bus to work.


    151K miles????
    Needs a transmission???
    A Ford???


    My Ford is a 1990 Ranger and a couple years back, I had to replaced the transmission but I think it was more the clutch disc which was a lot thinner than the new. And while I had all that out, I replaced the oil pan gasket. I'm really not a mechanic and a guy in his mid 50's is not suppose to be doing this kind of work but I got it done for less than $1000. I went through a few bouts of claustrophobia while under that truck but impressing my two sons it can be done was worth it.


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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd ride the bus if it would yield me Sunnywood's ex 1893-S image
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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ya gotta have reliable transportation, whether you buy new(er) or get this one fully repaired.
    There will always be more coins and the $ to buy them down the road (pun intended).

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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm with Seattle Slammer - If you're going to be stuck in gridlock either way (in Seattle) I'd rather be comfortable in my own car.



    But.... ...you can buy a nice used car, let someone else take the depreciation and buy coins too. image
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  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My 2008 Prius has 490,000 miles on'er and I got rid of my wife in 1999. I really don't have plans to get a new wife or a new car in the near future.

    I'm bitter! image
  • rte592rte592 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wouldn't inconvenience myself relying on catching the bus.



    On that note I'm selling off some hoarded car parts to turn into silver and gold bits (I did the same thing about 15 years ago)

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,736 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    My 2003 truck with 151,000 miles has transmission issues so it's time to buy something else. My wife doesn't understand that instead of buying a new car, I could buy a dozen lower-grade PCGS 1893-S Morgan Dollars and take the bus to work.


    I am with your wife. The 1893-S dollar is not all that rare. It's value is based on the popularity of the Morgan Dollar in general. If the whole coin market goes down the tubes in general, you will get less than your investment when you sell.

    Decent transportation that doesn't break down is much more important.
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  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: au58
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    My 2003 truck with 151,000 miles has transmission issues so it's time to buy something else. My wife doesn't understand that instead of buying a new car, I could buy a dozen lower-grade PCGS 1893-S Morgan Dollars and take the bus to work.


    151K miles????
    Needs a transmission???
    A Ford???


    Toyota. Manual transmission.

    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: Raybo
    My 2008 Prius has 490,000 miles on'er and I got rid of my wife in 1999. I really don't have plans to get a new wife or a new car in the near future.

    I'm bitter! image


    You drive 60,000 miles a year???? Are you a bootlegger?
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: SeattleSlammer
    Originally posted by: MrEureka
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    My 2003 truck with 151,000 miles has transmission issues so it's time to buy something else. My wife doesn't understand that instead of buying a new car, I could buy a dozen lower-grade PCGS 1893-S Morgan Dollars and take the bus to work.



    I'm all for buying the coins and taking the bus, but why hoard 93-S Dollars?





    I think it's called being rhetorical.

    Perhaps you were doing the same.

    Either way, I hate the bus. Especially downtown buses. I'd rather poke myself in the eye with a sharp stick.



    Yes, rhetorical. I said 1893-S Morgan because I'm building a set and eventually I'll be seeking to buy that one. I could have said a dozen MS grade St. Gaudens or many other desirable coins.

    And I now have a new car so my coin buying will be on hiatus for awhile.

    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,020 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I finally bit the bullet and acquiesced to a car payment for the first time since 1985. Been driving paid-for clunkers for the past 30 years. Now have a 2013 Nissan Rogue. Just turned 40K on it. I like it.



    No buses run out to my boondocky neck o' the woods, or I'd maybe have a Roman aureus or two in my collection... image

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am kinda of enjoying the no house, company car, no bills lifestyle I have now. Will be tough to go back one day.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My current vehicle was purchased new in 2004.... 37,535 miles....and runs great...

    Will be keeping it for the foreseeable future. Cheers, RickO
  • Musky1011Musky1011 Posts: 3,934 ✭✭✭✭
    Buy a corvette and piss her off
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  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is why I like Coins and Surf boards. One moving part. BTW I will be changing a timing chain on a 49 year old Ford today in my garage at home.
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  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Boosibri
    I am kinda of enjoying the no house, company car, no bills lifestyle I have now. Will be tough to go back one day.




    Plus 1. I can relate to the no bill part. Payments seem to come around every 30 days. The easiest way to make time fly is to load up with a ton of debt.

    2008 was a rough year for me, decided to refoucus my priorities
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  • dorkbardorkbar Posts: 434 ✭✭✭
    leothelyon, the point of having kids is to have them do the heavy lifting for you rather than to impress them with your mechanical abilities.
  • AnalystAnalyst Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭
    Boosi: I'd get a new car

    Mr. Eureka: I'm all for buying the coins and taking the bus, but why hoard 93-S Dollars?


    Yes, for the price of a new pick-up truck, a pleasing type set of U.S. 19th century silver coins could be assembled. There are a variety of neat collecting agendas that could be implemented with such a budget.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,698 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would take your wife's advice and get a new car. Spending on coins should only be a percentage of investment funds and not something which interferes with food, gas, meds, transportation, or lodging. Furthermore I put entertainment and other hobbies before what I spend on coins. When I see my ebay store lacking for coins bc so many have sold at retail I will start to get worried about buying coins. The thing is even if someone is a coin collector the 1893-S in VF20 is a $5200 coin - I would rather buy MS65 Saints or MS69 AGE, AGB and bulk up. Circ MOrgans just don't do it for me (unless can flip with good results), my 1880-S PCGS 64 with super luster is good enough for me in filling that type / date hole.

    The only thing that would postpone me buying a new car is an estate deal I could flip in the next 30-60 days and make at least 40%,

    You never when know you will be pushed into a forced sell situation with coins due to lifetime events like job loss, divorce, career reaching end of road (like a lot in Houston forced into early retirement bc of the oil slump), economy tanking, etc. People get lured into believing their good financial times will just continue to roll......

    The good thing about buying coins is you will get something back when you sell but that is an unknown vs something where the money you spent is gone forever. Sure a car depreciates form the day you drive it off the lot but we need reliable transportation.
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  • chumleychumley Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭
    my 1998 Volvo is holding up just fine thanks
  • 1Bustcollector1Bustcollector Posts: 584 ✭✭✭
    I mean absolutely no offense....but, that doesn't really represent balanced thinking "in my opinion". I guess I would be more understandable with other coin opportunities if there was a deal. Doesn't mean Im right. In the end, see if you can fix the trans if it's still feasible or start looking for another reliable vehicle and realize you are also married -
    Persuing choice countermarked coinage on 2 reales.

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  • AnalystAnalyst Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭
    1Bust: I mean absolutely no offense....but, that doesn't really represent balanced thinking IMO.

    Does 1Bust really think that the contributors to this thread are seriously maintaining that collectors everywhere should always 'take the bus,' rather than drive, in order to have more funds available to acquire rare coins?

    Couger1978: I would rather buy MS65 Saints or MS69 AGE, AGB and bulk up.

    What? Generic gold has been sluggish or even 'dead' for a long time. Modern bullion items are bullion items, not true coins in a numismatic sense. Maybe I mis-read the OP. My take is that someone who is considering inconveniencing himself every day to have more funds to build his coin collection is not going to be enthusiastic about generics or bullion. Speculating in bullion is a different topic, which is discussed in another forum.

    Was TigersFan really implying that he would like to speculate in circulated 1893-S Morgans, if he could afford to do so? If so, like Mr. Eureka, I am puzzled. I am not clear as to the point of the top post.

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    wow, the coins I could buy, if I worked like a dog, didn't have a family, and lived in a cardboard box under a bridge!



    no thanks



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  • 1Bustcollector1Bustcollector Posts: 584 ✭✭✭
    I do Analyst.

    I've actually seen some sorry decisions made with selfish ambitions. Sounds like I miss understood and took too seriously, my bad.
    Persuing choice countermarked coinage on 2 reales.

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  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: Analyst
    1Bust: I mean absolutely no offense....but, that doesn't really represent balanced thinking IMO.

    Does 1Bust really think that the contributors to this thread are seriously maintaining that collectors everywhere should always 'take the bus,' rather than drive, in order to have more funds available to acquire rare coins?

    Couger1978: I would rather buy MS65 Saints or MS69 AGE, AGB and bulk up.

    What? Generic gold has been sluggish or even 'dead' for a long time. Modern bullion items are bullion items, not true coins in a numismatic sense. Maybe I mis-read the OP. My take is that someone who is considering inconveniencing himself every day to have more funds to build his coin collection is not going to be enthusiastic about generics or bullion. Speculating in bullion is a different topic, which is discussed in another forum.

    Was TigersFan really implying that he would like to speculate in circulated 1893-S Morgans, if he could afford to do so? If so, like Mr. Eureka, I am puzzled. I am not clear as to the point of the top post.



    I never was implying speculating on circulated 1893-S Morgans or even considering buying rare coins vs. buying a new car. I was just amusing myself that the check I write for a new car is a lot of money and imaging the great coins I could buy with that same money.

    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,406 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Lakesammman
    I'm with Seattle Slammer - If you're going to be stuck in gridlock either way (in Seattle) I'd rather be comfortable in my own car.

    But.... ...you can buy a nice used car, let someone else take the depreciation and buy coins too. image


    image Good thinking!
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think some people in this thread probably took the OP's post a little too serious.

    I have a feeling the post was done tongue-in-cheek, so to speak.
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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    GSA any type of car or truck you want for half off and have money left over to buy some nice coins as well.


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  • AnalystAnalyst Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭
    Lord Marcovan: "No buses run out to my boondocky neck o' the woods, or I'd maybe have a Roman aureus or two in my collection ..."

    Money could be saved riding a motorcyle or a go-cart.

    MetalMeister: "BTW I will be changing a timing chain on a 49 year old Ford today in my garage at home."

    Is MetalMeister suggesting that he has not purchased a new car in a while and thus had additional funds to spend on rare coins?

    TigersFan: "I was just amusing myself that the check I write for a new car is a lot of money and imagining the great coins I could buy with that same money."

    1Bust: "I've actually seen some sorry decisions made with selfish ambitions. Sounds like I miss understood and took too seriously, my bad. "


    My hunch is that there was a serious undercurrent to this thread. The elephant in the room is that the money spent on rare classic U.S. coins could have been spent on objects or endeavors that non-collectors would understand.

    Perhaps most or all of the contributors to this thread have had to deal with family members and friends who are puzzled by or uncomfortable about large amounts being spent on coins. Also, as 1Bust suggests, many collectors do become carried away and buy coins with funds that they really need, or feel they should have used, for practical purposes relating to family members or just everyday life. Since I was a kid, family members have been very concerned about the amount of time that I have devoted to numismatic pursuits.


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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    God blessed my wife with a good divorce lawyer years ago. Now she drives a Cadillac.
  • goldengolden Posts: 10,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TwoSides2aCoin
    God blessed my wife with a good divorce lawyer years ago. Now she drives a Cadillac.


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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Boosibri

    I'd get a new car




    I'd get a new car, a new wife, and the coins.
  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Lakesammman
    But.... ...you can buy a nice used car, let someone else take the depreciation and buy coins too. image


    I did this last year. I had to get another car (and I loved my last car... *sniff*) and there wasn't another one I really wanted that was less than $40K, and I'm not paying $40K for a car.

    So I looked at the used market, and found a low mileage car (3 years old with 17K miles) coming off-lease, optioned out like my last car down to the heated seats (important during midwest winters image) for about 55% of the price of a new, similar car. (That includes the purchase of a 7 year, 100K warranty.) Some of that low price might have been because the dealership was too... ignorant to know why half the electronics didn't work, and it's a ridiculously easy fix if you know Nissans...

    I've had it for almost a year now, trouble free, but still can't get used to not needing a key and a transmission that doesn't shift. It also has its original OEM tires, and they need to be replaced, not for wear, but because they suck.

    Anyway, to the point, cars last a lot longer today, and the used market has some pretty decent deals if you look around. Then you can take that $10K you saved, and...
  • Bob1951Bob1951 Posts: 268 ✭✭
    What wife does understand? Buying coins is not spending money. You can always sell them later possibly for more than you paid, especially if you keep them for a long time. A vehicle normally devalues after a long time.

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