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Charlotte Dollar Date Run finally complete

mrcommemmrcommem Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭✭✭
There are 8 collectable Charlotte Gold Dollars. After about 10 years I finally acquired the 1849-c to complete the date run.


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  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very high grade and well matched set. Well done!!
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great accomplishment! Congrats an a wonderful set!
  • CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 3,171 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice group of Charlotte $1 gold. I'm particularly fond of that '52-C.

    Well done,

    'dude
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  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535
    What a nice collection.



    Congratulations!

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  • liefgoldliefgold Posts: 1,722 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice set! I will second the vote on that 52-C. Particularly choice.
    liefgold
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,420 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great set. A third on the 52-C
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bravo. That's no small accomplishment, I'm sure. image



    My one and only Charlotte coin thus far was a Type 1 gold dollar with a hole that took off the right half of the mintmark, leaving us to wonder if it was really a C or an O. Forum experts mostly concurred that it was indeed a C, as I recall. I forget the date on that coin. 1851, I think. There was a rather fun old thread about it. Someone even made an animated GIF to compare the known mintmark positions.

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  • mrcommemmrcommem Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have been working on this collection of gold dollars for quite a while now and noticed that as a group the Charlotte gold dollars are some of the poorest coin ever made by the and U. S mint. Even high grade coins are poorly struck, have numerous mintmade planchet flaws, bent or wavy planchets, and below average luster. In the group pictured above the lowest grade belongs to 55-c with a grade of AU53, followed by the 57-c at AU55. Those two coins I acquired from DWN and where the best I could find without spending lot more money for a marginal increase in eye-appeal. If anyone is interested in assembling a collection of Charlotte dollars this is what to expect. They are different and have there own special charm. I enjoyed every minute of it. Special thanks to Doug Winter for all of his help and advice in the assembling of the collection.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    It probably took a lot of C notes to acquire all those C coins.image

    A very nice set. The 52 and 59 are my favorites.
    Very nice set
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I admire your eye and your patience. Well done!
  • BustCudsBustCuds Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭


    Awesome Set, Congrats on the accomplishment image
  • JJSingletonJJSingleton Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great set! Congrats

    Joseph J. Singleton - First Superintendent of the U.S. Branch Mint in Dahlonega Georgia

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  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations on your set.

    Something to be proud of.

    Really enjoyed your summary a few posts above.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations!

    I know how hard this set is to complete. I was working on a type I gold dollar set, and I had to dial back my standards on the 1849-C Close Wreath and the 1852-C to EF-45 instead of AU. The prices on the AUs were simply too high, and some them were massively over graded in my opinion. I was finally able to buy a few pieces that come up in the 2014 Summer FUN auction to complete my set.

    As for the Type II and III dates, it has been said that these are perhaps the worst made coins that were ever issued by a United States mint. The 1855-C, 1857-C and the 1859-C gold dollars almost never come nice because they were not made nicely. It is interesting to note that the in the late 1850s the Charlotte Mint made gold dollars during the odd numbered years and quater eagles on the even numbered years.
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  • MarkMark Posts: 3,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    mrcommem:



    It took me several tries before all the pictures loaded properly but it was DEFINITELY worth it. What a very cool set. Seeing what a nice set you assembled ... well, I sure hope your family appreciates it!



    Your comment about the quality control at the Charolotte mint is definitely accurate. If I had been a mint employee at the time, I would have been embarrassed to admit where I worked.
    Mark


  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535
    Don't forget - Charlotte was in the "middle of the woods" back then and I have read that the Philadelphia Mint (which produced all the dies in those days) didn't necessarily send their best dies to Charlotte in the first place.



    Also, Charlotte produced a smaller amount of gold coins than Dahlonega - total gold deposits at Charlotte from 1838-1861 were about $5.1 million, while Dahlonega received about $6.1 million. I'd guess that minting coins is like anything else - the more you do it, the better at it you get.

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  • seebelowseebelow Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭
    Great set. Congrats
    Interested in higher grade vintage cards. Aren't we all. image
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful set of old gold... congratulations.... Cheers, RickO
  • goldengolden Posts: 10,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A nice set. I started this set decades ago. I purchased 3 then got interested in other coins. I only have one left.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: DaveG
    Don't forget - Charlotte was in the "middle of the woods" back then and I have read that the Philadelphia Mint (which produced all the dies in those days) didn't necessarily send their best dies to Charlotte in the first place.

    Also, Charlotte produced a smaller amount of gold coins than Dahlonega - total gold deposits at Charlotte from 1838-1861 were about $5.1 million, while Dahlonega received about $6.1 million. I'd guess that minting coins is like anything else - the more you do it, the better at it you get.


    Dahlonega was even further "in the woods," but some of their Type III gold dollars were MUCH better that the Charlotte pieces. Ditto for the Type II gold dollar. My 1855-D has a better strike on the reverse than most Philadelphia Mint pieces. The Charlotte Mint simply could not make decent large gold dollars.
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  • mrcommemmrcommem Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BillJones,


    I continue to work on completion of a Gold Dollar Branch Mint Collection. I have finished the Charlotte and New Orleans dollars and have three Dahlonega pieces, the 54, 56, and 61 remaining as well as three San Francisco pieces, the 56, 59, and 70 still to acquire. The collection is represented in the showcase Sets under Themed Coins-Branch Mint Gold Dollars
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: DaveG

    What a nice collection.



    Congratulations!




    This in spades!



    mark

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  • EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭✭✭
    great set! nice job!

    Easton Collection
  • HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats! I'm still looking for that "right" 1849-C.
  • SethChandlerSethChandler Posts: 1,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow, not only do you have a set. I like all the coins. Good work!
    Collecting since 1976.
  • BIGAL2749BIGAL2749 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭✭
    As I once told the pretty girl,



    Nice Set!



    The sad part are those clunky TPG holders!



    It would be nice with such a matched set to have them displayed side by side in a capitol holder.



    But I know the large holders are necessary for a variety of reasons.

    With the secure service could the coins be removed for a custom holder and then put back in holders if PCGS can access no damage or any other negative issues have occurred?
  • That is a great set.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: BIGAL2749
    As I once told the pretty girl,

    Nice Set!

    The sad part are those clunky TPG holders!

    It would be nice with such a matched set to have them displayed side by side in a capitol holder.

    But I know the large holders are necessary for a variety of reasons.
    With the secure service could the coins be removed for a custom holder and then put back in holders if PCGS can access no damage or any other negative issues have occurred?


    My experiences with Capital holders and small, thin coins like gold dollars, was not good. It was virtually impossible to mount the coins in the holes and not have them rattle, even when you ordered custom made holders and used the fitting tool. The TPG holders do a much better job.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I remember correctly, the collections at both the Charlotte and Dahlonega museums are displayed in what basically amounts to giant Capital Plastics holders? (Inside the requisite glass cases and alarms, naturally.)



    I've visited both of those museums plus San Francisco. Never been to Philly (to the Mint, anyway), or to Carson City (never been to Nevada, period.)

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,620 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Vey nice set indeed! Branch gold is cool!
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  • winkywinky Posts: 1,671
    Positively fabulous.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: lordmarcovan
    If I remember correctly, the collections at both the Charlotte and Dahlonega museums are displayed in what basically amounts to giant Capital Plastics holders? (Inside the requisite glass cases and alarms, naturally.)

    I've visited both of those museums plus San Francisco. Never been to Philly (to the Mint, anyway), or to Carson City (never been to Nevada, period.)



    Yes, the Dahlonega coins are giant Capital holders. I don't know if the coins rattle or not. When I saw them, the Capital Plastics holder was positioned vertically in the back of a display case. It was really impossible to see how nice the coins were. If I had gone there with the idea of seeing that collection, I would have been disappointed. Fortunately the rest of the items in the Dahlonega Court House Museum were better displayed, and I could enjoy them.

    I enjoyed looking at the original mint site, although the building is long gone since it burned in 1877. I took lots of pictures and even got in invite to look in the basement where the stones that make up the original mint foundation can still be seen behind several glass doors.


    I am going to see the Charlotte facility this spring.
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  • 2ltdjorn2ltdjorn Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice. I am doing the same but for the New Orleans mint!
    WTB... errors, New Orleans gold, and circulated 20th key date coins!
  • DDRDDR Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool set!
  • mrcommemmrcommem Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does anyone know if PCGS still have their multicoin holder?
  • mrcommemmrcommem Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a lot of you like the 52-c. It is graded AU58. I think it could be graded MS60, but what do I know. All of the 8 coins are graded between AU53 and AU58, with the 55-c an AU53.
  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fantastic!
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    You get an A+ for building that set of C's image
  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great set. Congratulations.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice set image

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