Pawn Stars just bought a 1964-D Peace Dollar

coinhack · October 15, 2015 12:48PM

I was watching Pawn Stars tonight and someone brought in a 1964-D Daniel Carr Peace Dollar. Rick didn't know what it was worth so he brought in his buddy the coin dealer.

They explained what it was and how it was made and then the expert said it was worth $200, so Rick gave him $140.

I guess this doesn't do you any good if you missed it, since it is already over but I thought I would pass it along.

Christos · October 15, 2015 1:59PM

<< I was watching Pawn Stars tonight and someone brought in a 1964-D Daniel Carr Peace Dollar. Rick didn't know what it was worth so he brought in his buddy the coin dealer.

They explained what it was and how it was made and then the expert said it was worth $200, so Rick gave him $140.

I guess this doesn't do you any good if you missed it, since it is already over but I thought I would pass it along. >>

If you have cable or sat you can most likely us on demand to watch the show.

TigersFan2 · October 15, 2015 2:05PM

Pawn Stars is fake. Stuff is recruited to be brought in. It's rehearsed. It's fabricated.

dcarr · October 15, 2015 5:18PM

<< Pawn Stars is fake. Stuff is recruited to be brought in. It's rehearsed. It's fabricated. >>

This is not really correct.

This is how the show actually works:
A potential seller of an item can contact Pawn Stars. Pawn Stars receives thousands of such applicants every week. A few are selected to actually be taped for the show, and a date and time is arranged. Pawn Stars does research on the item. The owner then arrives on the scheduled date and time. Discussions about the item and negotiations for the price are not scripted and are real. Whether or not the owner actually sells the item to the shop is not predetermined.

So some aspects are pre-arranged and the rest is unscripted and not pre-determined.

Treashunt · October 15, 2015 7:50PM

The whole show is stupid

CoinZip · October 15, 2015 8:49PM

I don't get a chance to watch TV, but any time someone is promoting/educating the Hobby/Industry it's a good thing........

Keep up the good work Pawn Stars.

ricko · October 15, 2015 10:04PM

I have never (well, almost never) watched the show.... I do not watch any 'reality' TV.... however, I did watch the Pawn Stars show when Charmy was on.....Cheers, RickO

7Jaguars · October 15, 2015 10:14PM

Oh, it's not that bad! Well, they do have a lot of firearms on there so learned maybe a bit about them. Occasional interesting bits of info that one can then research up on their own.

Those guys are pretty tough (i.e. IMO ripoffs) on many items, beyond a reasonable profit margin. I always hate when they use arguments that are seemingly true but blown way out of proportion as to why they need such a big margin on something that will be a rapid turnover at even a 50% profit.

coindeuce · October 15, 2015 10:47PM

"So some aspects are pre-arranged and the rest is unscripted and not pre-determined."

I would like to determine this: If offered one of these, would DC buy it back at $140 ?

BillJones · October 15, 2015 11:07PM

<< The whole show is stupid >>

I actually enjoy the commentary about the items, and the negociations can be fun. The "stupid part" is the little sub plots they stick in about Chumlee and Cory messing around. That can get tedious if it goes on for too long.

It's also fun to see some of the experts that are on the show. I've known and met a couple of them, but I'll leave it at that.

keets · October 15, 2015 11:30PM

Pawn Stars is fake. Stuff is recruited to be brought in. It's rehearsed. It's fabricated.
---This is not really correct.

This is how the show actually works:
A potential seller of an item can contact Pawn Stars. Pawn Stars receives thousands of such applicants every week. A few are selected to actually be taped for the show, and a date and time is arranged. Pawn Stars does research on the item. The owner then arrives on the scheduled date and time. Discussions about the item and negotiations for the price are not scripted and are real. Whether or not the owner actually sells the item to the shop is not predetermined.

So some aspects are pre-arranged and the rest is unscripted and not pre-determined.

so after you disagreed you agreed!!

my "rule of thumb" is that as soon as the term Reality is added to a television show it becomes everything but real. the original Reality Television Show starred a gentleman named Allen Funt. Pawn Stars is bogus.

AMRC · October 15, 2015 11:58PM

<< Oh, it's not that bad! Well, they do have a lot of firearms on there so learned maybe a bit about them. Occasional interesting bits of info that one can then research up on their own.

Those guys are pretty tough (i.e. IMO ripoffs) on many items, beyond a reasonable profit margin. I always hate when they use arguments that are seemingly true but blown way out of proportion as to why they need such a big margin on something that will be a rapid turnover at even a 50% profit. >>

You could make a fortune putting out your shops address and paying more! Don't miss this opportunity!

MonsterCoinz · October 16, 2015 12:04AM

Cakes · October 16, 2015 12:39AM

I am not buying people saying they rip people off, that's unfair. When you go to a pawn shop you are looking for a quick easy sale. Rick has also given people more then they have asked when he knows an item is worth much more then the seller is asking.

It's a good show that shares some knowledge. It's not like watching the Kardashians or Basketball wives.

Edited to add it's also pretty cool that dcarr gets some free publicity for his bad ass skills and that Charmy was on the show.

Coin Finder · October 16, 2015 1:07AM

Well let's think about this. What kind of show would it be if people brought in c$ap like 1964 proof sets or old broken pottery, rusty pool cues, used worthless stamps, common hotel room paintings, stainless steel flatware.....you get the picture?

Now if you can just film all the great finds in grandma's attic, like General Robert E Lee's old uniform etc. Which makes an more interesting program?

FredWeinberg · October 16, 2015 1:12AM

I remember Candid Camera very well, and loved the show;
I wouldn't call it a reality show, as it was more 'situational'
than true reality.....it was the reactions to set-up situations
that made the show so great, way way back then.

To me, the first 'real' reality show was COPS............

hickoryridge · October 16, 2015 1:18AM

<< "So some aspects are pre-arranged and the rest is unscripted and not pre-determined."

I would like to determine this: If offered one of these, would DC buy it back at $140 ? >>

I would love to have one @ $140

topstuf · October 16, 2015 1:21AM

You know it's scripted when they interview the pledgors/sellers talking about what they want BEFORE they go in.

That does NOT happen. It's ludicrous to think they are interviewing random people on the way IN to the shop.

Pawnbroker speaking from experience.

OPA · October 16, 2015 1:33AM

<< I was watching Pawn Stars tonight and someone brought in a 1964-D Daniel Carr Peace Dollar. Rick didn't know what it was worth so he brought in his buddy the coin dealer.

They explained what it was and how it was made and then the expert said it was worth $200, so Rick gave him $140.

I guess this doesn't do you any good if you missed it, since it is already over but I thought I would pass it along. >>

Must have been a repeat, unless they purchased a second one.

As far as staged. Suggest you contact one of our posters: ThePennyLady....she was on the show several years ago.

Pawn Stars thread with "Thepennylady"

TURBO · October 16, 2015 1:35AM

<< I was watching Pawn Stars tonight and someone brought in a 1964-D Daniel Carr Peace Dollar. Rick didn't know what it was worth so he brought in his buddy the coin dealer.

They explained what it was and how it was made and then the expert said it was worth $200, so Rick gave him $140.

I guess this doesn't do you any good if you missed it, since it is already over but I thought I would pass it along. >>

This would be season 14 episode 20 Flying High.
Amazon has all of them for $2 bucks each.

Lakesammman · October 16, 2015 2:15AM

It's a fun show - watch it frequently.

If you think he's ripping people off, rent prime space, do the TI's, get insurance, pay utilities/taxes and fill it with employees, then see if you would be able to offer more.

REALGATOR · October 16, 2015 2:31AM

<< It's a fun show - watch it frequently.

If you think he's ripping people off, rent prime space, do the TI's, get insurance, pay utilities/taxes and fill it with employees, then see if you would be able to offer more. >>

All of that AND take market risk. He's gotta sell the bag he is now holding.

Want to sell at a better price? Avoid the middleman. I think they have collectors forums for that, right?

CaptHenway · October 16, 2015 2:54AM

So, did anybody go into the shop to see if it was for sale in the showcase?

dcarr · October 16, 2015 3:09AM

<< The whole show is stupid >>

I think it was actually a pretty smart idea for a show - smart enough to be copied by a competitor.
A "stupid" show is one that bombs immediately - not the case with "Pawn Stars".

dcarr · October 16, 2015 3:10AM

<< "So some aspects are pre-arranged and the rest is unscripted and not pre-determined."

I would like to determine this: If offered one of these, would DC buy it back at $140 ? >>

I have bought back a couple, paying as high as $200.

Most pawn shops will try to buy things at half of what they think they can sell it for (for a 100% markup).

dcarr · October 16, 2015 3:14AM

<< Pawn Stars is fake. Stuff is recruited to be brought in. It's rehearsed. It's fabricated.
---This is not really correct.

This is how the show actually works:
A potential seller of an item can contact Pawn Stars. Pawn Stars receives thousands of such applicants every week. A few are selected to actually be taped for the show, and a date and time is arranged. Pawn Stars does research on the item. The owner then arrives on the scheduled date and time. Discussions about the item and negotiations for the price are not scripted and are real. Whether or not the owner actually sells the item to the shop is not predetermined.

So some aspects are pre-arranged and the rest is unscripted and not pre-determined.

so after you disagreed you agreed!!

my "rule of thumb" is that as soon as the term Reality is added to a television show it becomes everything but real. the original Reality Television Show starred a gentleman named Allen Funt. Pawn Stars is bogus. >>

You could say that the items on the show are "recruited" in a way.
And the shop does research on the items that are going to be on the show.
But the statement that the show is "rehearsed" and "fabricated" is incorrect.

PS:
There is and has been only one TRUE reality show: "COPS".

Dave99B · October 16, 2015 3:27AM

I don't watch a lot of TV, but I love that show!

My niece visited their shop last year...she got her get pic taken with Chumlee. She said he looked/acted sort of stoned, but I think that's just Chumlee.

Dave

SeattleSlammer · October 16, 2015 3:40AM

<< The whole show is stupid >>

Which one of you peed in Frank's cornflakes?

Bochiman · October 16, 2015 3:54AM

Before speaking up on things that one knows NOTHING about but just wants to rant/speculate, then perhaps "one" should not be so definitive about something in a negative way.

For those that don't know (maybe too new to the forum) or those that have forgotten, Charmy (ThePennyLady) is a forum member AND was on the show. She posted about her experience there. Maybe go back and read it or ask her about it before calling it an outright farce....

Note: The above in no way implies that I personally think everything happens exactly as they show it on TV

TigersFan2 · October 16, 2015 3:58AM

The show is scripted and items are recruited. Sure, Rick can decide whether he wants to buy or not and negotiate the price, but he's being paid to do the show and he knows he needs to buy a certain amount of the items to attempt to make the show appear realistic. If he didn't buy anything, the show wouldn't work. And with so many of the things people bring in, I know the person could get a much better price elsewhere than to bring it into a pawn shop.

Realistic? Go visit any other pawn shop in the U.S. and ask them if anyone ever brings in cool stuff with historical backgrounds.

But then again, they all have a large amount of fabrication and scripting. I watch "Duck Dynasty." As they've progressed into each new season, they seem to try less at trying to make the show look real. It's become very staged and scripted. The one daughter who was on Dancing with the Stars made the comment in an interview that the Dancing show is harder because there aren't do-overs. I fully expect "Pawn Stars" has do-overs and multiple takes.

CaptHenway · October 16, 2015 3:59AM

<< 

<< Pawn Stars is fake. Stuff is recruited to be brought in. It's rehearsed. It's fabricated.
---This is not really correct.

This is how the show actually works:
A potential seller of an item can contact Pawn Stars. Pawn Stars receives thousands of such applicants every week. A few are selected to actually be taped for the show, and a date and time is arranged. Pawn Stars does research on the item. The owner then arrives on the scheduled date and time. Discussions about the item and negotiations for the price are not scripted and are real. Whether or not the owner actually sells the item to the shop is not predetermined.

So some aspects are pre-arranged and the rest is unscripted and not pre-determined.

so after you disagreed you agreed!!

my "rule of thumb" is that as soon as the term Reality is added to a television show it becomes everything but real. the original Reality Television Show starred a gentleman named Allen Funt. Pawn Stars is bogus. >>

You could say that the items on the show are "recruited" in a way.
And the shop does research on the items that are going to be on the show.
But the statement that the show is "rehearsed" and "fabricated" is incorrect.

PS:
There is and has been only one TRUE reality show: "COPS". >>

Not pro wrestling???

braddick · October 16, 2015 4:36AM

I'm OK with most of what is written in this thread, but I swear. . . if anyone tells me, Judge Judy is scripted/fake
I'll blow a gasket!

SanctionII · October 16, 2015 5:04AM

I enjoy watching Pawn Stars every once in a while.

The Storage Locker Auction shows make me chuckle. I remember one episode where one of the regular bidders found a Whitman folder containing some, but not all of the Lincoln cents from 1941 forward (Volume 2 of the Whitman Lincoln Cent folders I think). The cents were circulated.

The retail and wholesale value of this collection of circulated 1941 and older cents is basically face value or maybe 1.5 times face value. In other words less than one dollar.

The bidder who won the storage unit containing the cent folder looked at it and stated that it was worth "$200.00". He set it aside and looked for more treasure.

The value figures tossed about for what is found in the lockers are pulled out of thin air for the most part, by the high bidder and by the experts they show their newly found rare item to.

Makes me laugh.

johnny9434 · October 16, 2015 5:15AM

the only part of pawn stars i like is when they shoot an old rifle or shot gun (and a cannon once and a while ). the rest of it is ho hum for the most part.

TwoSides2aCoin · October 16, 2015 5:22AM

Hard to believe those things are already how many years old now ? 5 ? 6 ? 61 ?

winky · October 16, 2015 6:29AM

FAKE-FAKE-FAKE !!

WillieBoyd2 · October 16, 2015 6:47AM

In July 2014 there was a British Viking coin on Pawn Stars.
It had been purchased from CNG (a large ancient coin dealer).

Collectors Universe - Viking Coin on Pawn Stars
http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=6&threadid=922887

KennyBerger · October 16, 2015 7:06AM

<< 

<< I was watching Pawn Stars tonight and someone brought in a 1964-D Daniel Carr Peace Dollar. Rick didn't know what it was worth so he brought in his buddy the coin dealer.

They explained what it was and how it was made and then the expert said it was worth $200, so Rick gave him $140.

I guess this doesn't do you any good if you missed it, since it is already over but I thought I would pass it along. >>

This would be season 14 episode 20 Flying High.
Amazon has all of them for $2 bucks each. >>

$2 an episode is expensive. Wow.

TigersFan2 · October 16, 2015 7:14AM

<< 

<< This would be season 14 episode 20 Flying High.
Amazon has all of them for $2 bucks each. >>

$2 an episode is expensive. Wow. >>

70 episodes = Fake 1964-D Peace Dollar.

gonzer · October 16, 2015 7:29AM

Pawn Stars make Gilligan's Island look like a PBS docu-drama.

HalfStrike · October 16, 2015 7:45AM

So what it is with the ones selling on Ebay for between $17 and $45? Were those die struck or are they cheap castings?

Nap · October 16, 2015 8:06AM

<< In July 2014 there was a British Viking coin on Pawn Stars.
It had been purchased from CNG (a large ancient coin dealer).

Collectors Universe - Viking Coin on Pawn Stars
http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=6&threadid=922887

>>

I remember this story.

So much for finding it "among Grandpa's belongings"

CaptHenway · October 16, 2015 8:12AM

<< 

<< In July 2014 there was a British Viking coin on Pawn Stars.
It had been purchased from CNG (a large ancient coin dealer).

Collectors Universe - Viking Coin on Pawn Stars
http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=6&threadid=922887

>>

I remember this story.

So much for finding it "among Grandpa's belongings" >>

That was SOOOOOOO bogus!

TopographicOceans · October 16, 2015 8:29AM

Oh that Chumlee. He's a always gettin' into some situations and hilarity follows.

TopographicOceans · October 16, 2015 9:08AM

<< I'm OK with most of what is written in this thread, but I swear. . . if anyone tells me, Judge Judy is scripted/fake
I'll blow a gasket! >>

Judy is real.

But the audience is made up of people being paid to sit there. You have to dress formally like you would in court.

Their acting is fake. They pretend to be talking to one another before Officer Byrd tells them to rise when Judy comes in.

Sometimes producers will let fans sit in the audience gallery. They get paid like everyone else hired to be there.

You’ll have to sit down for this braddick: MOST of the cases are real, but there are fake ones.

Most cases are found by people that read claims filed in courts across the country, but since people can also contact the show “if you want justice call 1-888-800-JUDY (5839)” there are people who try to get on the show and file fake claims in small claims courts and contact the show. Everyone is vetted by the production company, but some can get past them.

But that doesn’t mean they can fool Judy. Sometimes she’ll smell a rat and say she doesn’t buy it. She’ll dismiss their case without prejudice and tell them to back to their small claim court for their case so they don’t get any award money.

The plaintiff and defendant each get a couple hundred dollars for being there. Transportation costs and a night at a hotel and meals are paid for by the production company.

Any award is paid for by the production company (unlike People's court where there is a pool and the judgement comes out of the pool and the rest is split between the two parties).

Edit:
The exterior shots are of New York, but it is filmed in LA. Judy flies in on her private jet from New York for 3 days a week when shooting during the year. It's hard work so she earns her $50 million a year salary.

TigersFan2 · October 16, 2015 9:50AM

<< 

<< I'm OK with most of what is written in this thread, but I swear. . . if anyone tells me, Judge Judy is scripted/fake
I'll blow a gasket! >>

Judy is real.

But the audience is made up of people being paid to sit there. You have to dress formally like you would in court.

Their acting is fake. They pretend to be talking to one another before Officer Byrd tells them to rise when Judy comes in.

Sometimes producers will let fans sit in the audience gallery. They get paid like everyone else hired to be there.

You’ll have to sit down for this braddick: MOST of the cases are real, but there are fake ones.

Most cases are found by people that read claims filed in courts across the country, but since people can also contact the show “if you want justice call 1-888-800-JUDY (5839)” there are people who try to get on the show and file fake claims in small claims courts and contact the show. Everyone is vetted by the production company, but some can get past them.

But that doesn’t mean they can fool Judy. Sometimes she’ll smell a rat and say she doesn’t buy it. She’ll dismiss their case without prejudice and tell them to back to their small claim court for their case so they don’t get any award money.

The plaintiff and defendant each get a couple hundred dollars for being there. Transportation costs and a night at a hotel and meals are paid for by the production company.

Any award is paid for by the production company (unlike People's court where there is a pool and the judgement comes out of the pool and the rest is split between the two parties).

Edit:
The exterior shots are of New York, but it is filmed in LA. Judy flies in on her private jet from New York for 3 days a week when shooting during the year. It's hard work so she earns her $50 million a year salary. >>

Ebay Sale of 2 Phones

dcarr · October 16, 2015 11:01AM

<< Before speaking up on things that one knows NOTHING about but just wants to rant/speculate, then perhaps "one" should not be so definitive about something in a negative way.

For those that don't know (maybe too new to the forum) or those that have forgotten, Charmy (ThePennyLady) is a forum member AND was on the show. She posted about her experience there. Maybe go back and read it or ask her about it before calling it an outright farce....

Note: The above in no way implies that I personally think everything happens exactly as they show it on TV

>>

<< The show is scripted and items are recruited. Sure, Rick can decide whether he wants to buy or not and negotiate the price, but he's being paid to do the show and he knows he needs to buy a certain amount of the items to attempt to make the show appear realistic. If he didn't buy anything, the show wouldn't work. And with so many of the things people bring in, I know the person could get a much better price elsewhere than to bring it into a pawn shop.

Realistic? Go visit any other pawn shop in the U.S. and ask them if anyone ever brings in cool stuff with historical backgrounds.

But then again, they all have a large amount of fabrication and scripting. I watch "Duck Dynasty." As they've progressed into each new season, they seem to try less at trying to make the show look real. It's become very staged and scripted. The one daughter who was on Dancing with the Stars made the comment in an interview that the Dancing show is harder because there aren't do-overs. I fully expect "Pawn Stars" has do-overs and multiple takes. >>

"Scripted" implies that the "actors" follow a script with pre-determined dialogue. That is not how Pawn Stars works.

I was not the one who arranged to have that "1964-D" Peace dollar on the show. But I know the person who was on the show selling it, and I am familiar with how it was all set up.

dcarr · October 16, 2015 11:03AM

<< So what it is with the ones selling on Ebay for between $17 and $45? Were those die struck or are they cheap castings? >>

Those cheap "1964-D" Peace Dollars on eBay are not the "Carr" over-strikes. They are low-quality non-silver Chinese manufacture.

WillieBoyd2 · October 16, 2015 11:54AM

braddick · October 16, 2015 2:11PM

Hot diggity. Just me, or does Judge Judy look just about the same as she did twenty years ago?

Also, anyone remember when her husband attempted a Reality Judgeship show too (and failed miserably)?

braddick · October 16, 2015 2:13PM

On a note related to this topic:

I too watched that Pawn Stars eps and noticed the flip stated it was die number 5.

Personally, I think it's worth closer to $400.

Pawn Stars just bought a 1964-D Peace Dollar

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