My newp - Guess the grade - GRADE POSTED

JohnnyCache · January 10, 2015 7:16AM

I present to you, for guessing pleasure, my recent purchase.

Guess on... I'll post the grade tonight.

Thanks for looking

JC

savoyspecial · January 10, 2015 7:17AM

64

fcloud · January 10, 2015 7:27AM

<< 64 >>

+1

Goldbully · January 10, 2015 7:31AM

Gorgeous coin, looks better than most 64's in CoinFacts.....I'll say MS65

keyman64 · January 10, 2015 7:32AM

NICE!

DAM · January 10, 2015 7:33AM

64

and a very nice one at that!

MilkmanDan · January 10, 2015 7:55AM

64+

Shamika · January 10, 2015 8:18AM

65

DollarAfterDollar · January 10, 2015 8:29AM

I see nothing that keeps it from MS 65.

indeetlib · January 10, 2015 8:29AM

Nice looking coin!

I'll say AU58 and MS62, meaning it could be in either grade holder, but is worth the same either way.

bosco5041 · January 10, 2015 8:29AM

64

thisnamztaken · January 10, 2015 8:30AM

65 if the luster is there, in hand. Nice coin!

BustHalfBrian · January 10, 2015 8:46AM

I know the grade because I was watching this coin from the start. I, too, think it is very choice for the assigned grade.

puffer · January 10, 2015 8:48AM

64, nice looker.

roadrunner · January 10, 2015 8:49AM

63 Maybe some light wiping visible? Anything from 62 to 64 seems possible.

topstuf · January 10, 2015 8:50AM

<< I know the grade because I was watching this coin from the start. I, too, think it is very choice for the assigned grade. >>

Well, I guess that puts the kibosh to all the 65 guesses.

lasvegasteddy · January 10, 2015 8:56AM

au58 is my guess

one sharp pretty example of it too
congrats

AUandAG · January 10, 2015 9:00AM

Just the slightest softness on the motto. Super mark free fields.

Not my series but let me guess that it is a MS66 (perhaps a 65+).

Certainly nice for sure!

bob

hchcoin · January 10, 2015 9:10AM

64 - Great looking coin!

JohnnyCache · January 10, 2015 9:23AM

Thanks for the guesses.

I think it has excellent eye appeal and is strong for the grade.

Two images one via Heritage and one via David Lawrence, where it had sold previously.

1831 CBH - HA

1831 CBH - DLRC

1921obsession · January 10, 2015 9:24AM

When you are reduced to actually counting the marks on the coin, you know you've got something special. Assuming it's not AU58 or questionable color (a couple spots on the reverse concern me) I have it at 65 factoring the previous "choice at the grade" comment. I chose to slide the expected strike weakness at PLURIBUS but the grader might have been less kind.

AMRC · January 10, 2015 9:24AM

<< au58 is my guess

one sharp pretty example of it too
congrats >>

Please sell me all of your AU58 coins.

1921obsession · January 10, 2015 9:28AM

You have *got* to be kidding me. 62? What the heck would a 64 look like by that standard? Phew.

USMarine6 · January 10, 2015 9:34AM

65 and love it!

VanHalen · January 10, 2015 9:38AM

Do you believe it to be an 58 market graded into an MS holder? I can't see how else it could have graded 62 (and CAC'd Green at 62).

AUandAG · January 10, 2015 9:40AM

Wow, that is only a 62? Man, what does a 66 look like??

bob

lostincoins · January 10, 2015 9:44AM

Beautiful coin! I also find it amazing that in this day and age that the major auction houses still can not produce good images of coins for sale.

thisnamztaken · January 10, 2015 9:49AM

Methinks it should have received a GOLD bean from CAC! Wow!

puffer · January 10, 2015 10:19AM

CAC is very tough on Bust coins, as PCGS is too! If you tried 6 times at the two services you would probably get a point or so more, but would it be worth the expense, time and anxiety? As it is you have an excellent and highly marketable coin.

roadrunner · January 10, 2015 10:57AM

The luster is weak in parts of the field and light wiping lines show. That's sometimes all the difference there is between 62/63 coins and 64/65 coins. Contact marks are typically viewed as less of a problem vs. diminished luster and hairlines.

ms70 · January 10, 2015 11:03AM

Very, very attractive coin. Enjoy.

puffer · January 10, 2015 11:10AM

<< The luster is weak in parts of the field and light wiping lines show. That's sometimes all the difference there is between 62/63 coins and 64/65 coins. Contact marks are typically viewed as less of a problem vs. diminished luster and hairlines. >>

Thanks for your excellent incisive analysis as usual! I probably should have checked out the definitions on MS62-64 grading criteria, pictures don't clarify the issue for me much since every coin is different.

BryceM · January 10, 2015 3:53PM

<< The luster is weak in parts of the field and light wiping lines show. That's sometimes all the difference there is between 62/63 coins and 64/65 coins. Contact marks are typically viewed as less of a problem vs. diminished luster and hairlines. >>

This seems to be forgotten when all we have is a photo to go on. It's easy to hide hairlines and fluff up the luster in a photo.

Justlooking · January 10, 2015 4:46PM

<< 

<< The luster is weak in parts of the field and light wiping lines show. That's sometimes all the difference there is between 62/63 coins and 64/65 coins. Contact marks are typically viewed as less of a problem vs. diminished luster and hairlines. >>

This seems to be forgotten when all we have is a photo to go on. It's easy to hide hairlines and fluff up the luster in a photo. >>

Hairlines. Gotta be.

Otherwise, this one needs to be re-graded and re-cacced.

grip · January 10, 2015 10:08PM

A 64 for comparison.

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erwindoc · January 10, 2015 10:50PM

This is probably one of those coins that cant be graded so easily via computer screen but may be different in hand. No matter the grade, its a great looking coin!

BillJones · January 10, 2015 11:22PM

I have seen some really nice looking Bust half dollars in MS-62 holders that people had found at the FUN show. It seems like the grading has tightened up on these coins.

ricko · January 11, 2015 3:29AM

Very nice coin....I would have guessed higher than 62....certainly a 64.... Cheers, RickO

asheland · January 11, 2015 5:19AM

I was at 63 until I saw the slab revealed..
Close enough, I guess. :-)

CalGold · January 11, 2015 11:21AM

In the first photo the coin looks 62, due to a lack of luster dead look with a pin scratch from the first star to the bust.
In the second photo, the coin appears to have more luster but still with the scratch
The DL photo makes the coin look like it has gem luster with the scratch.

Which photo is most representative of the coin in hand?

CG

Baley · January 11, 2015 11:27AM

<< Do you believe it to be an 58 market graded into an MS holder? I can't see how else it could have graded 62 (and CAC'd Green at 62). >>

There are numerous ways a coin like this can net to a grade like 62, and look like a 64 to some people and a 58 to others, depending on which attributes they prefer to emphasize.

PCGS and CAC both like it at 62, and, well, it's too late for you to believe me because the grade is already revealed, but that was my guess before scrolling down.

Baley · January 11, 2015 11:29AM

Oh, and great looking coin for the grade, could also see it as 63 but way too nice overall for anything lower than 62 imo.

crazyhounddog · January 11, 2015 11:30AM

It looks a bit nicer than the grade assigned. I find it quite attractive too.

Mark · January 11, 2015 10:28PM

roadrunner:

If you make it back to this thread, where do you see the wiping marks?

Thanks!

Type2 · January 12, 2015 4:34AM

I would crack it let it do it thing and resubmit them at a leter time they are some very nice halfs and some older holders as well, But that is just me Dumb Type2.

Timbuk3 · January 12, 2015 7:16AM

Sweet, 64 !!!

Ajjohnson77 · January 12, 2015 9:42AM

One of the nicest I have seen.

My newp - Guess the grade - GRADE POSTED

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