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First Coin Sold - Are Prices Going Down?

ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
Recently the first JFK Gold coin sold went for $100,000.

Back in 1892 the first Columbian Half sold for $10,000. Using an inflation calculator which starts in 1913, $10,000 in 1913 would be $240,255 in 2014, and likely higher given that this was sold in 1892.

So, if the JFK went for $100,000 in 2014, and the Columbian Half went for the equivalent of $240,000 in 2014 dollars (using the 1913 start date), did we see a big deflation in first coin values?

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    I think your logic is wrong
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    commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,102 ✭✭✭
    Big difference between the first coin struck and the first coin sold.

    -Paul
    Many Quality coins for sale at http://www.CommonCentsRareCoins.com
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,519 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think your logic is wrong >>



    Which part?
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,519 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Big difference between the first coin struck and the first coin sold.

    -Paul >>



    Well, it appears they may both be "first sold" but one is also "first struck". So perhaps First Sold is $100,000 and the First Strike premium is $140,000?
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Update - this alternate inflation calculator starts in 1800 and indicates $10,000 in 1892 would be worth $255,408.47 in 2013.

    Makes sense that First Strike + First Sold would be more than First Sold only so perhaps things haven't changed very much in 120+ years?
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    410a410a Posts: 1,325 ✭
    Many times marketing and logic aren't readily apparent.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Often, logic does not apply to realized coin prices......Cheers, RickO
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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The prices went down the second the checks were cashed
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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Logic has nothing to do with the JFK gold pieces.
    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The motivations of the buyers for the first struck 1892 Columbian half dollar and the first gold Kennedy coin that was sold were totally different. The Remington Typewriter Company bought the first Columbian coin as a publicity stunt and as a contribution to the funding of the Columbian Exposition. Collector value had nothing to do with it.

    The buyer of the first gold Kennedy, if he or she indeed existed, was doing so as a result of a collectors' interest. If that sale was in fact a hoax, then I suppose that you could say that it was for publicity too, but of a far less savory kind.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    CoinZipCoinZip Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭
    Thank you for the link to the Columbian Half information.


    I can't help but wonder how much that 1st struck Columbian Half would sell for today if it was offered at one of the big auction houses....... image


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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You can not compare the Chicago's World's Fair with the Chicago (er, Rosemont) ANA. The 1892-3 World's Fair was HUGE, everyone in the world (western world, at least) knew about it and millions attended. As for the ANA, maybe 1% of the population in Chicago even heard of it? Well, perhaps a few more as a result of the gold Kennedy fiasco.
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    FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    The buyer of that $100K Kennedy ought to set up a clown dunk tank at the next ANA Convention. If he charges $5 per throw
    he might make his money back in a few years.


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    bestdaybestday Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The buyer of that $100K Kennedy ought to set up a clown dunk tank at the next ANA Convention. If he charges $5 per throw
    he might make his money back in a few years.




    I

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    I think the first coins sold nonsense, just a publicity stunt to gin up sales , interest in the gold Kennedys ...by someone still holding a lot of gold kennedys

    Those holding the gold Kennedys waiting for prices to back up .. may wait a long time
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,531 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amazing that same dumb azz buyer had such a long lifespan

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