FYI Stone has been banned.
Realone
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A huge loss to the members here. This way of handling free speech has to change.
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<< <i>it always appears to be a bad decision, but what were the circumstances, what was the thread and comment about that resulted in the banning?? sometimes the truth is good for unemotional clarity. >>
probably the "conservation service thread"
That was a full frontal assault of a statement but everyone should be given a warning or a second chance.
"If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"
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<< <i>it always appears to be a bad decision, but what were the circumstances, what was the thread and comment about that resulted in the banning?? sometimes the truth is good for unemotional clarity. >>
The conservation thread!
that was my first thought.
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He Facebooked me last night about his Banning.
I won't go into details, but, yes, he can be outspoken,
but he didn't think what he said a few weeks back would
have grounded him. He spoke what was on his mind and
said he spoke the truth. I do not know which thread he was
referring to. I hope his absence is marked in days and not
longer.
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Stone was a good guy and a knowledgeable collector. Sorry he's gone (for now, at least).
Hope this is temporary.
Realone ... this is NOT a place for free speech. It is our host's forum, not an open public forum. We either abide by our host's rules, or run the risk of not being allowed to participate.
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<< <i>A huge loss to the members here. This way of handling free speech has to change. >>
Yet you don't come up with a single recommendation on how to accomplish this.
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<< <i>A huge loss to the members here. This way of handling free speech has to change. >>
Yet you don't come up with a single recommendation on how to accomplish this. >>
because this is not run by the US Gov't.
PCGS site - PCGS rules.
Perhaps this will be a teachable moment.
Perhaps the unbamming will not be responded to? Who knows.... really... anyone know?
edited to add........... I'm going to miss seeing that girl with the big..........glass of beer!
Stone has been around a long time, he will be missed.
Mr Willis how about a second chance?
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<< <i>A huge loss to the members here. This way of handling free speech has to change. >>
Yet you don't come up with a single recommendation on how to accomplish this. >>
Ok, I understand this is not our house and it is a privilege to be here. That being said, since as collectors our passion which drives us to collect is also what makes us say things that may in the heat of passion too. PCGS wants collectors who have passion, it is what drives their business model, and that same passionate drive can also get out of hand at times but PCGS needs to try to help out instead if having a kneejerk response. If criminals can get a three strike rule so can collectors. That should be the rule...3 written warnings and then the boot. We have a lost a great many good members here, I would hate to see another go. PCGS wants our collector passion and they must expect the same passion with how we view the hobby. >>
I believe our hosts had a gentler approach in the past, but it failed to work to their satisfaction. Don posted the rules and, based on a lot of inflammatory or otherwise questionable posts that did not result in banning, I think our hosts have been practicing discretion.
You can be passionate about our hobby and follow our host's very clear rules.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
That's what I'm talking about! The best avatar yet.
Lighten up kiddies, he will be back I'm sure.
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<< <i>A huge loss to the members here. This way of handling free speech has to change. >>
Yet you don't come up with a single recommendation on how to accomplish this. >>
Ok, I understand this is not our house and it is a privilege to be here. That being said, since as collectors our passion which drives us to collect is also what makes us say things that may in the heat of passion too. PCGS wants collectors who have passion, it is what drives their business model, and that same passionate drive can also get out of hand at times but PCGS needs to try to help out instead if having a kneejerk response. If criminals can get a three strike rule so can collectors. That should be the rule...3 written warnings and then the boot. We have a lost a great many good members here, I would hate to see another go. PCGS wants our collector passion and they must expect the same passion with how we view the hobby. >>
I believe our hosts had a gentler approach in the past, but it failed to work to their satisfaction. Don posted the rules and, based on a lot of inflammatory or otherwise questionable posts that did not result in banning, I think our hosts have been practicing discretion.
You can be passionate about our hobby and follow our host's very clear rules. >>
I get it, but posts can easily be deleted at the discretion of our hosts but members shouldn't be deleted so easily imho especially ones that have given more than they have taken. Stone has helped out the numismatic community including PCGS in more ways than one. Sometimes one needs to turn a cheek rather than turn off a member's membership. >>
You can delete the posts, but you can't delete the poster's attitude. You don't bite the hand that feeds you so to speak. Next ban in.
the wrong way. I`ve read many posts where the member seemed to just be getting outta line
in one way or another. Maybe their `wrongly worded posts` could just be deleted
and poster notified as to where they went wrong? By ya, PCGS` site PCGS` rules. Lump it or leave it.
If that is what it was.
The host is doing us a favor, maybe if one remembered that then there would be a bit more respect of the host's rules. Stone was an excellent contributor to the forum, but he jumped way over the line with his last comments. Hopefully he will be able to join us again.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
<< <i>He was totally out of line and offensive. HERE: >>
Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. This was too much:
PCGS is the biggest hypocrite in numismatics regarding coin doctoring.
First they file a lawsuit against people that engage in such activities, then shortly thereafter they turn it into a business model!
I'm bummed he's gone. I enjoyed our public and private exchanges. But I knew he crossed the line there.
Lance.
kinda like going to a party and insulting the host`s wife.
you get BAMMED for that for sure. ouch
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<< <i>A huge loss to the members here. This way of handling free speech has to change. >>
Yet you don't come up with a single recommendation on how to accomplish this. >>
Ok, I understand this is not our house and it is a privilege to be here. That being said, since as collectors our passion which drives us to collect is also what makes us say things that may in the heat of passion too. PCGS wants collectors who have passion, it is what drives their business model, and that same passionate drive can also get out of hand at times but PCGS needs to try to help out instead if having a kneejerk response. If criminals can get a three strike rule so can collectors. That should be the rule...3 written warnings and then the boot. We have a lost a great many good members here, I would hate to see another go. PCGS wants our collector passion and they must expect the same passion with how we view the hobby. >>
I believe our hosts had a gentler approach in the past, but it failed to work to their satisfaction. Don posted the rules and, based on a lot of inflammatory or otherwise questionable posts that did not result in banning, I think our hosts have been practicing discretion.
You can be passionate about our hobby and follow our host's very clear rules. >>
I get it, but posts can easily be deleted at the discretion of our hosts but members shouldn't be deleted so easily imho especially ones that have given more than they have taken. Stone has helped out the numismatic community including PCGS in more ways than one. Sometimes one needs to turn a cheek rather than turn off a member's membership. >>
You can delete the posts, but you can't delete the poster's attitude. You don't bite the hand that feeds you so to speak. Next ban in. >>
Last I looked the customer feeds our hosts. Maybe if one remembered that their would be less idol worshiping here. >>
I was referring to the privilege of using these message boards.
How?
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<< <i>A huge loss to the members here. This way of handling free speech has to change. >>
Yet you don't come up with a single recommendation on how to accomplish this. >>
Ok, I understand this is not our house and it is a privilege to be here. That being said, since as collectors our passion which drives us to collect is also what makes us say things that may in the heat of passion too. PCGS wants collectors who have passion, it is what drives their business model, and that same passionate drive can also get out of hand at times but PCGS needs to try to help out instead if having a kneejerk response. If criminals can get a three strike rule so can collectors. That should be the rule...3 written warnings and then the boot. We have a lost a great many good members here, I would hate to see another go. PCGS wants our collector passion and they must expect the same passion with how we view the hobby. >>
Not disagreeing with your conclusion, simply your logic is flawed.
First, stating PCGS, "having a knee-jerk response" really goes against your theory of a lack of free speech here (as you state so without fear of being banned yourself).
Second, criminals don't get three chances- it's simply the penalty is much more severe for repeat offenders. (Since when should PCGS dedicate the manpower and effort to handing out warning slips to members who violate the rules? Really?)
Last, if I were asked, and certainly I am not what my solution would be- it is to provide again an open forum and assign two or three volunteers to moderate the forum, allowing the hobby forums to remain strictly on topic and threads such as this one to be hosted elsewhere.
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It is repeated several times there.
Edited to add: "Please."
Well, just Love coins, period.