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ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
here is a message I received after blocking an ebayer that offered $10 on a coin I had priced at $200. he offered, I declined and blocked, then he sent this: "You are a Jerk for blocking me for a low offer for your overpriced coin that you will NEVER SELL AT THAT PRICE!!! I am a Great fast paying buyer that you lost as a customer I will tell all my e-bay friends about you as well. They will not buy from you either!!!! I bid $10.00 because the coin may be worth $20-30.00 and wanted to show you that you were overpricing your coin! If you cannot accept constructive criticism then you will Fail as a seller! YOU SUCK!!!" anyone interested in his ebay ID ?
regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
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    coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,510 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thought that a blocked member could no longer communicate to the blocking member through the eBay messaging system. image

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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm pretty much tired of the eBay nonsense and haven't sold on there for almost a year. I once had an eBay "buyer" tell me that my certified Seated dollar was only worth melt, lol.
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    rkfishrkfish Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭
    hope you forwarded that email to eBay also....
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    ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    the member can still communicate, just cant make offers or buy the item. the "communication" does little but reinforce my opinion that blocking him was a good move.
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,333 ✭✭✭✭✭
    im glad i dont sell on ebay as well. jmo
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    Well Congratulations are in order. You won the " YOU SUCK " award image

    Another reason I don't put make an offer on auctions.

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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't understand why you blocked the person, instead of just declining.
    LCoopie = Les
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Normally let eBay handle that kind of communication as I pre-set what will be accepted in my listings that have "Make Offer" enabled.image
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    123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    Set a minimum offer you will consider and you won't have to deal with low ball offers. They will be immediately declined.
    image
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    Jinx86Jinx86 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Set a minimum offer you will consider and you won't have to deal with low ball offers. They will be immediately declined. >>




    Only way to roll. I have listings with 20 or so offers and all have been automatically declined for being to low. Saves alot of time and head aches.
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    TJM965TJM965 Posts: 446 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't understand why you blocked the person, instead of just declining. >>




    I agree, unless he made many lowball offers on several coins. Certainly would not block on 1 offer.
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    << <i>I don't understand why you blocked the person, instead of just declining. >>



    I'm actually glad to know that I am not the only one who blocks those that make ridiculous offers...
    There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
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    telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I don't understand why you blocked the person, instead of just declining. >>



    I'm actually glad to know that I am not the only one who blocks those that make ridiculous offers... >>



    +1.

    I'd like to know the ID. Guys like that never buy anything and on the rare occasions when they do, they invariably find ways to make your life miserable. If others want "customers" like that, they can have 'em.
    Anyone who posts a childish response like that after simply being blocked tends to prove my point.

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,034 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Like already said, set your minimum acceptance on offers. I just five minutes ago got paid on an
    offer that was accepted. My BIN price was $125 but I enabled any offer over $100 to be automatically
    accepted and any offer under that declined. I just got $105. Worked out fine for me!

    bobimage
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
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    BaronVonBaughBaronVonBaugh Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm pretty much tired of the eBay nonsense and haven't sold on there for almost a year. I once had an eBay "buyer" tell me that my certified Seated dollar was only worth melt, lol. >>




    Did you tell him that you would be happy to take his certified seated dollars for melt?
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    bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I used to set the auto decline, but I decided that I would rather have the option to counter someone who sends a reasonable offer. Say I'm willing to accept $100 and someone offers me $95. If I just decline, I lose out on the chance to negotiate. I had someone once offer me a fairly low offer on a toned Canadian proof, I countered, and he ended up buying 5 coins from me near my asking price. Every once in a while I get a low offer that I just decline, or someone just messaging me to let me know that my price is too high. I just say thanks for the info and move on.
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When I get a low ball offer I simply counter for 1 cent less than my original asking price. Try to counter higher but ebay wouldn't let me! image Make me a reasonable offer and I will counter with a price more inline.
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    mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭✭
    Funny, maybe I'm wired differently but I don't follow your logic...

    I have a coin listed for 489 with a best offer. Guy offers $4. I counter offer with 400. He buys.

    Have you ever contemplated that a person enters the wrong amount and press submit too quickly? The best offer procedure is at best confusing, at worse I've made mistakes myself.

    Sometimes people test you. It's a free market society. He can offer $2. You counter $190. Maybe he'll buy? Maybe he'll come back with $160?

    But if you automatically ban the bidder you are 100% guaranteed not to make a sale.

    Sorry...I just would not take that approach because you are guaranteeing you will make the person irate and guaranteeing that your decision to block the person was the best. You essentially created the reality you wanted.

    I'd rather create the reality the of a PayPal payment and a USPS label printing image
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Reads like a Dear John letter from an angry lover.
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I bid $10.00 because the coin may be worth $20-30.00 and wanted to show you that you were overpricing your coin! >>

    Simple, considerate communication seems to evade so many people. If the "buyer" wanted to communicate that he/she felt your coin was price too high ... why not just say so? Offering a very low price in the hopes the other seller will have a pricing epiphany is absurd and just inflames the conversation.
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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,161 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I thought that a blocked member could no longer communicate to the blocking member through the eBay messaging system. image >>



    Unless eBay recently changed their policy, that used to be the case. Once blocked, you could not bid nor communicate via the eBay message system to the seller that blocked you.

    btw, I do not block "low ball offer" bidders, I just ignore them or make a counteroffer.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't understand why you blocked the person, instead of just declining. >>



    Same here. You need these guys to get the 99c no reserve auctions going! The only time I would block someone is if I had a bad selling experience with him (i.e. returned a coin for "buyers remorse") or if someone else on the boards had a terrible experience.
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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Funny, maybe I'm wired differently but I don't follow your logic...

    I have a coin listed for 489 with a best offer. Guy offers $4. I counter offer with 400. He buys.

    Have you ever contemplated that a person enters the wrong amount and press submit too quickly? The best offer procedure is at best confusing, at worse I've made mistakes myself.

    Sometimes people test you. It's a free market society. He can offer $2. You counter $190. Maybe he'll buy? Maybe he'll come back with $160?

    But if you automatically ban the bidder you are 100% guaranteed not to make a sale.

    Sorry...I just would not take that approach because you are guaranteeing you will make the person irate and guaranteeing that your decision to block the person was the best. You essentially created the reality you wanted.

    I'd rather create the reality the of a PayPal payment and a USPS label printing image >>



    Words of wisdom to agree with unless banning is a strategy to force communication for a sale. An extreme tactic nonetheless if it opens up an avenue to advertise............hey, whatever works to make a sale. image

    But in this instance, the OP ended up with a pissed off response and if either has a clientele following.......well, such a move could backfire.


    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

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    ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    in my 4000+ transactions i have learned how to spot the problem buyers before they can become a problem, this guy is a problem, I prefer the problem to show its self prior to the sale, rather than after.
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
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    ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    when im selling an item for $200 and i get a $10 offer, there isn't any reason to counteroffer, or afford the "would be" buyer any other offers. block and move on, then when the "would be" buyer gets irate because i didn't agree to his price he resorts to proving that it was a good idea to block him.
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    why not just set a minimum acceptable price and avoid all the drama. surely you have better things to do with your time?
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    grote15grote15 Posts: 30,141 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>.
    why not just set a minimum acceptable price and avoid all the drama. surely you have better things to do with your time?
    . >>



    +1

    I think though that some sellers actually enjoy dealing with the low ballers, or inviting reactions, for whatever reason. Otherwise either set auto decline for offers too low or simply decline.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "ebaybuyer" has blocked so many bidders that the only ones left are those that only have 10 bucks to their name. He had no choice with that bid!
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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,043 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't understand why you blocked the person, instead of just declining. >>



    There are plenty of buyers on eBay, and eBay puts them on a high pedestal at the expense of the sellers. Blocking is one of the last tools sellers have there to keep the BS down. I'd block the guy also.
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    MM Posts: 363
    Ebay under Site Preferences (Selling Preferences): Buyer Requirements (Show):Block Buyers who: (Edit)

    then check this box at the bottom of the page :

    Don't allow blocked buyers to contact me. (Buyer won't see the "Contact Seller" button on your Q&A page.) Note: Buyers can still contact you about existing transactions, unless you add them to your blocked list.


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    thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have a coin listed for 489 with a best offer. Guy offers $4. I counter offer with 400. He buys...
    Have you ever contemplated that a person enters the wrong amount and press submit too quickly? >>



    If the example you have given is not just theoretical but actually took place, I think a conservative guess is that that outcome only happens about once in a million (or more) times. I have also blocked ridiculously low BO bidders on occasion, although lately I just use the "refuse offers lower than" option most of the time.
    I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
    - Jim
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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    may we see the auction in question?
    LCoopie = Les
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    TavernTreasuresTavernTreasures Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Funny, maybe I'm wired differently but I don't follow your logic...

    I have a coin listed for 489 with a best offer. Guy offers $4. I counter offer with 400. He buys.

    Have you ever contemplated that a person enters the wrong amount and press submit too quickly? The best offer procedure is at best confusing, at worse I've made mistakes myself.

    Sometimes people test you. It's a free market society. He can offer $2. You counter $190. Maybe he'll buy? Maybe he'll come back with $160?

    But if you automatically ban the bidder you are 100% guaranteed not to make a sale.

    Sorry...I just would not take that approach because you are guaranteeing you will make the person irate and guaranteeing that your decision to block the person was the best. You essentially created the reality you wanted.

    I'd rather create the reality the of a PayPal payment and a USPS label printing image >>





    Well Said
    Advanced collector of BREWERIANA. Early beer advertising (beer cans, tap knobs, foam scrapers, trays, tin signs, lithos, paper, etc)....My first love...U.S. COINS!
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>here is a message I received after blocking an ebayer that offered $10 on a coin I had priced at $200. he offered, I declined and blocked, then he sent this: "You are a Jerk for blocking me for a low offer for your overpriced coin that you will NEVER SELL AT THAT PRICE!!! I am a Great fast paying buyer that you lost as a customer I will tell all my e-bay friends about you as well. They will not buy from you either!!!! I bid $10.00 because the coin may be worth $20-30.00 and wanted to show you that you were overpricing your coin! If you cannot accept constructive criticism then you will Fail as a seller! YOU SUCK!!!" anyone interested in his ebay ID ? >>

    Sure. PM me.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Normally let eBay handle that kind of communication as I pre-set what will be accepted in my listings that have "Make Offer" enabled.image >>

    As do I. I set a minimum for which I would even consider with the auto-decline feature.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
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    ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    him: "You are a Jerk for blocking me for a low offer for your overpriced coin that you will NEVER SELL AT THAT PRICE!!! I am a Great fast paying buyer that you lost as a customer I will tell all my e-bay friends about you as well. They will not buy from you either!!!! I bid $10.00 because the coin may be worth $20-30.00 and wanted to show you that you were overpricing your coin! If you cannot accept constructive criticism then you will Fail as a seller! YOU SUCK!!!" ***

    me: and im guessing you expect me to unblock you after your tantrum ? to be honest, I don't WANT "customers" like you. if the price is too high, find another one. YOU don't price my items I DO. ill be happy to block all of your "ebay" friends as well. if they aren't already blocked. im the jerk and you are resorting to name calling and acting like a child that didn't get his way, perhaps I should share this with all my ebay friends and let them decide for themselves if they want you as a customer or would rather just block your dumb ass. ***

    him: I have another one! In Fact Three!!! You will just end up with no customers at all! Or maybe just "unhappy ripped off ones"!?! You are the idiot! Have you seen my perfect buy record? When your friends see $239.00 for your Holed Junk Dime they will no longer be your friends! You Say I am the one having the tantrum? It is YOU who is having the Tantrum! You are the Baby who tries to block people for "Calling You Out" Remember all I did is Bid $10.00! You Blocked me for that! What a Baby you are. Now you want to Tattle to your Friends? go right ahead! You will never have any success with your poor attitude and lack of knowledge! You Still Suck by the way! ***

    me: I didnt "try" to block anyone. as for my success, you worry about your feedback, and ill worry about my own. ***

    him: What a Liar! You are telling me that you don't try to block anyone and yet you blocked me! I do not need to worry about mine as I do not try to rip people off by overcharging people like you do!!! When you say you do not want customers like me just keep in mind that 95% of us are all like me! When you say like me you mean A 100% Positive Feedback Fast Paying Red Star Buyer Like Me? I Spend Several Thousand Dollars on Coins Every Year. I am the Buyer that Sellers Compete Against Other Sellers To Get My Business! You Just Have No Clue! ***

    me: it is what it is, you offered some douchebag low ball offer and I blocked you, I didn't "try" to block you I DID block you, I don't want to do any business with you, and I wont do any business with you. the coin is priced too high for you than perhaps you should look elsewhere rather than low balling me. YOU are throwing the tantrum, and perhaps you are just not smart enough to see that ,either way, refrain from your name calling and leave it alone or I will report your childishness to ebay. ***

    him: LOWBALL??? My Offer was MUCH More Fair Than your $239.00 BEND OVER THE BUYER AND R_PE ATTEMPT! How about being a MAN instead of a "BOY" and try Auctioning if Off!!!???!!! We Will See Who is Right and who is the Scam Artist Douchebag! Looks Like No one else wants to do business with you either!!! You are just too much of a Chicken Sh it to do it! That is because Deep Down You Know That I am RIGHT! If You Block Everyone who gives you a low offer then you will have no one left to sell to! $10.00 is a Lot More Than ZERO! Which is what you are! A Big Fat ZERO! By The Way You "Still Suck" MR. 98.1% and Probably Dropping!!! ***

    this is why i block low ballers after the initial BS offer. because 99% of the time, this is the mindset of the low baller.
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
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    johnjinxjohnjinx Posts: 365 ✭✭✭
    Where is the auto-decline feature? I've seen it before but I have been unable to locate it on the last auction I put up.
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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>may we see the auction in question? >>




    +1
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    grote15grote15 Posts: 30,141 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why in the world would you continue to engage this guy with that kind of an exchange?

    It would seem that my prior post was actually right on the money in this case.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,679 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think i would have just brushed him off an not wasted my tine corresponding with him. Seems kinds of pointless.
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    ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    if anyone here can honestly say that they would not hesitate to do business with this piece of work, I offer this ... GOOD LUCK !
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I don't understand why you blocked the person, instead of just declining. >>



    There are plenty of buyers on eBay, and eBay puts them on a high pedestal at the expense of the sellers. Blocking is one of the last tools sellers have there to keep the BS down. I'd block the guy also. >>



    Isn't it to your advantage when the offers total up in your ebay auctions?

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

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    MM Posts: 363
    In my prior post I showed steps to keep blocked buyers from contacting you. The continued abusive exchange of messages with the low ball buyer are pointless, IMO, unless you like the drama of it.
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    TavernTreasuresTavernTreasures Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭
    Maybe he doesn't know it, but the potential buyer is actually lucky to have been blocked.
    Advanced collector of BREWERIANA. Early beer advertising (beer cans, tap knobs, foam scrapers, trays, tin signs, lithos, paper, etc)....My first love...U.S. COINS!
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the exchange I am quoting below really happened between you and an ebay buyer-offerer-or potential customer. I totally agree with the post above mine. image



    << <i>him: "You are a Jerk for blocking me for a low offer for your overpriced coin that you will NEVER SELL AT THAT PRICE!!! I am a Great fast paying buyer that you lost as a customer I will tell all my e-bay friends about you as well. They will not buy from you either!!!! I bid $10.00 because the coin may be worth $20-30.00 and wanted to show you that you were overpricing your coin! If you cannot accept constructive criticism then you will Fail as a seller! YOU SUCK!!!" ***

    me: and im guessing you expect me to unblock you after your tantrum ? to be honest, I don't WANT "customers" like you. if the price is too high, find another one. YOU don't price my items I DO. ill be happy to block all of your "ebay" friends as well. if they aren't already blocked. im the jerk and you are resorting to name calling and acting like a child that didn't get his way, perhaps I should share this with all my ebay friends and let them decide for themselves if they want you as a customer or would rather just block your dumb ass. ***

    him: I have another one! In Fact Three!!! You will just end up with no customers at all! Or maybe just "unhappy ripped off ones"!?! You are the idiot! Have you seen my perfect buy record? When your friends see $239.00 for your Holed Junk Dime they will no longer be your friends! You Say I am the one having the tantrum? It is YOU who is having the Tantrum! You are the Baby who tries to block people for "Calling You Out" Remember all I did is Bid $10.00! You Blocked me for that! What a Baby you are. Now you want to Tattle to your Friends? go right ahead! You will never have any success with your poor attitude and lack of knowledge! You Still Suck by the way! ***

    me: I didnt "try" to block anyone. as for my success, you worry about your feedback, and ill worry about my own. ***

    him: What a Liar! You are telling me that you don't try to block anyone and yet you blocked me! I do not need to worry about mine as I do not try to rip people off by overcharging people like you do!!! When you say you do not want customers like me just keep in mind that 95% of us are all like me! When you say like me you mean A 100% Positive Feedback Fast Paying Red Star Buyer Like Me? I Spend Several Thousand Dollars on Coins Every Year. I am the Buyer that Sellers Compete Against Other Sellers To Get My Business! You Just Have No Clue! ***

    me: it is what it is, you offered some douchebag low ball offer and I blocked you, I didn't "try" to block you I DID block you, I don't want to do any business with you, and I wont do any business with you. the coin is priced too high for you than perhaps you should look elsewhere rather than low balling me. YOU are throwing the tantrum, and perhaps you are just not smart enough to see that ,either way, refrain from your name calling and leave it alone or I will report your childishness to ebay. ***

    him: LOWBALL??? My Offer was MUCH More Fair Than your $239.00 BEND OVER THE BUYER AND R_PE ATTEMPT! How about being a MAN instead of a "BOY" and try Auctioning if Off!!!???!!! We Will See Who is Right and who is the Scam Artist Douchebag! Looks Like No one else wants to do business with you either!!! You are just too much of a Chicken Sh it to do it! That is because Deep Down You Know That I am RIGHT! If You Block Everyone who gives you a low offer then you will have no one left to sell to! $10.00 is a Lot More Than ZERO! Which is what you are! A Big Fat ZERO! By The Way You "Still Suck" MR. 98.1% and Probably Dropping!!! ***

    this is why i block low ballers after the initial BS offer. because 99% of the time, this is the mindset of the low baller. >>

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    streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Such drama. He could have meant $100 or $110.

    I bid on items from my 2yr old android that has a life of it's own and mistakes happen.
    Just say no thanks. But I will admit I bocked a yoyo for a $20 offer on a $500 item. I too was annoyed. Thankfully that was the last I heard from him.
    Have a nice day
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    ldhairldhair Posts: 7,441 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would have blocked the guy as well and reported his childish contact.
    I would not have let it turn into a debate.
    Larry

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    Ebaybuyer was messing with the guy because of how he acted and was just giving it right back to him. The buyer just was not seeing it.

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