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Why the 2013 Reverse Proof Gold Buffalo will flop. Heads Up !

TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
Give me one good reason why it won't.

Yes or No ?
True or False ?
Heads or Tails ?
Flip or Flop ?
Collect one. There WILL NOT be enough to fill collector demand in the distant future. This is my bold prediction.

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For a fun giveaway...

    I will give away a 2013 UNC Silver Eagle to the person who picks the time/date
    when the sale of these exceeds my post count. I just noticed how close in proximity those numbers are.


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    For this easy contest, if you're a lurker you can PM me your guesses.

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    guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,308 ✭✭✭
    tomorrow morning the sales will exceed your post count.
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    Today 8/15

    Time = 3pm Eastern

    I think these will be quite collectible. Why? Only 1 month availability, increasing price of gold will keep away buyers until it's too late.

    Nooker
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    Today 3pm eastern time.
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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,161 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Today 8/15

    Time = 3pm Eastern

    I think these will be quite collectible. Why? Only 1 month availability, increasing price of gold will keep away buyers until it's too late.

    Nooker >>



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    SNMANSNMAN Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭
    16 Aug at 10 am

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You guys are too quick. I think we have a winner...
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    DCWDCW Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2 pm, today!
    (Now should I buy 140 pieces, just for the free ounce of silver?)

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm going to the test forum and add to my post count all day today, just to screw you guys up.
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    You better get busy because at 3pm eastern it will go well over your post count.
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    nibannynibanny Posts: 2,761
    Today at noon Eastern Time.
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,957 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What do you mean by "flop"?

    Ultimately, I don't think that it will exceed the price run-up experienced with the UHR, but it appears to have already become somewhat popular.
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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Today 8/15

    Time = 3pm Eastern

    I think these will be quite collectible. Why? Only 1 month availability, increasing price of gold will keep away buyers until it's too late.

    Nooker >>



    What he said. image
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When the counter next updates today.
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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Give me one good reason why it won't.

    Yes or No ?
    True or False ?
    Heads or Tails ?
    Flip or Flop ?
    Collect one. There WILL NOT be enough to fill collector demand in the distant future. This is my bold prediction. >>


    What are you actually asking? Your title seems to imply this issue will be a failure. Your last line seems to imply these won't flop.

    Fraser's design is pretty popular. Even the silver commem sold out pretty quickly. Those who can afford one of these will get one. Those who are collecting the Reverse Proofs will want one.

    What I really want is gold to rally and drive the price of this piece up another $100. Might keep mintage *really* low. (And coincidentally, now that I have mine on order, I want gold to skyrocket. I was rooting for gold to fall for a full two months before these went on sale. image )
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Count will exceed posts = 5:30 PM today....
    It will be a success in sales... will not have collector value for 75 years (after initial flipping frenzy)....Cheers, RickO
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not implying a thing , BackroadJunkie. Just starting some discussion as to WHY the coin will flop. As in after the flip. There will only be enough for those who got them during the window of opportunity.

    I think they're collectible. At least ONE, anyway. That's how I view collecting. ONE coin, not seven of the same thing. That's kind of boring for me. I don't need a stable of the same thing. If there are implications on anything, it's not that it will flop as in "fail", but will land in the lap of those who will collect ONE.
    Beyond that, if it follows the way of "gold" , like ricko says, it probably takes 75 years. But if it goes the way a "few" modern releases go, it would probably behoove readers to quit being doubters and GET ONE.

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    CakesCakes Posts: 3,706 ✭✭✭✭✭
    8/15/13 1:26 PM EST. thanks for the chance.
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    CakesCakes Posts: 3,706 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Count will exceed posts = 5:30 PM today....
    It will be a success in sales... will not have collector value for 75 years (after initial flipping frenzy)....Cheers, RickO >>



    75 years, can't it at least be 25 years?
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    s4nys4ny Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭
    2:44 PM today.
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    I think these will be collectible going forward.

    Why? The complete Gold Buffalo Proof set is small and outside of 2008 is (relatively) affordable with somewhat reasonable prices over bullion spot
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    Who wins?
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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Less collectible than the ASE and AGE rev. proofs - much smaller collector base. More collectible than the APE rev. proof. Much less collectible than the UHR.

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    s4nys4ny Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭
    The rise in the gold price probably means that there will be fewer orders cancelled.
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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm not implying a thing , BackroadJunkie. Just starting some discussion as to WHY the coin will flop. As in after the flip. There will only be enough for those who got them during the window of opportunity.

    I think they're collectible. At least ONE, anyway. That's how I view collecting. ONE coin, not seven of the same thing. That's kind of boring for me. I don't need a stable of the same thing. If there are implications on anything, it's not that it will flop as in "fail", but will land in the lap of those who will collect ONE.
    Beyond that, if it follows the way of "gold" , like ricko says, it probably takes 75 years. But if it goes the way a "few" modern releases go, it would probably behoove readers to quit being doubters and GET ONE. >>



    Gotcha.

    In 2006, I got a bunch of Silver 20th ASE sets, but only one Gold RP. Only got one UHR.

    I was sorry I got only one years later. So I bought two of these, with the intention of one paying for a future vacation, and still having one for the collection. Heh.

    If you're looking for a reason this issue will flop, there you are. image
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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,161 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Today 8/15

    Time = 3pm Eastern

    I think these will be quite collectible. Why? Only 1 month availability, increasing price of gold will keep away buyers until it's too late.

    Nooker >>



    What he said. image >>



    Total sold at 3PM was 30,482
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If Nooker PM's me his mailing address before midnight, he could have his eagle before I get my Buffalo.
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    Hey TwoSides, I actually have never PM'd , so bear with me ...while I try ...
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nooker, you'll have yours before I have mine. image
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    AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,375 ✭✭✭✭
    A friend of mine who attended the ANA said the mint was selling these at the show. There was a 3 hour line to buy one, and it was cash only with a limit of 5 per person.

    Apparently dealers are paying $500 over issue price to buy one.
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    But yours will be MUCH prettier!

    Thanks so much! It's my first "win" ever in these forums
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    CCC2010CCC2010 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭


    << <i>A friend of mine who attended the ANA said the mint was selling these at the show. There was a 3 hour line to buy one, and it was cash only with a limit of 5 per person.

    Apparently dealers are paying $500 over issue price to buy one. >>



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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Also , without going too far off topic, because I know Miss Goody Two Shoes with four eyes is watching, Nooker.

    Here's how I do my taxes. I write off the cost of this item, plus the shipping costs on my taxes. That will be over $30.
    As your "winnings" are concerned, you do not pay taxes on the retail value, but the actual value. So whatever spot price is the day it shows up, is actually what you need to claim as "other income" and pay those taxes on it. That's the code. I am not giving tax advice. image ... Now if silver goes up to $40, and you sell it, I'd probably give you 5% back of spot if you sold it to me.

    Congrats.
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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Apparently dealers are paying $500 over issue price to buy one."

    Someone should direct those dealers to ebay where there are two coins right now in a single ad that have been on ebay for nearly 3 days at $360 over without selling. If they sell, the seller should net around just $150 or so over after ebay and paypal fees, etc.

    I have heard of dealers or collectors paying $50 - $110 over to buy a coin though.

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    orevilleoreville Posts: 12,292 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would not have waited 3 hours to buy a few of those reverse proofs especially when that would have cleaned me out of my cash on hand.

    I had more important purchases to make.

    I thought the long line was to get to see, uh get an autograph from our very lovely Treasurer of the United States.
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    hiijackerhiijacker Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"Apparently dealers are paying $500 over issue price to buy one."

    Someone should direct those dealers to ebay where there are two coins right now in a single ad that have been on ebay for nearly 3 days at $360 over without selling. If they sell, the seller should net around just $150 or so over after ebay and paypal fees, etc.

    I have heard of dealers or collectors paying $50 - $110 over to buy a coin though.

    Wondercoin >>




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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love the open market, hijacker. And Silvertowne brings it to us. image
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    CCC2010CCC2010 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    This is one of the very First listing of a graded example on Ebay thus the current bid price...since then other examples have turned up...
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    MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>"Apparently dealers are paying $500 over issue price to buy one."

    Someone should direct those dealers to ebay where there are two coins right now in a single ad that have been on ebay for nearly 3 days at $360 over without selling. If they sell, the seller should net around just $150 or so over after ebay and paypal fees, etc.

    I have heard of dealers or collectors paying $50 - $110 over to buy a coin though.

    Wondercoin >>




    Check this one out:

    Link >>




    Shouldn't the notation say, FIRST POSSESSION™ ??? image

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