Freshly made 1979 Topps Box

Lodi · June 8, 2013 9:41AM

eBay auction

Doesn't get any fresher! Check his recent feedback from New England and McCall. Tells the whole story. But where did he get the gum?

larryallen73 · June 8, 2013 9:48AM

LOL, you can get the ever popular Pedro Guerrero rookie. I know I am not paying attention to collecting much but can't imagine the Pete G RC is very popular.

Possible Ozzie Smith or Pedro Guerrero Rookie and other great players.

TNP777 · June 8, 2013 9:53AM

yep - same box in both auctions.

MintMoondog · June 8, 2013 9:53AM

so sad...some poor sap is about to be duped

itzagoner · June 8, 2013 10:03AM

¡ay, caramba!

mknez · June 8, 2013 10:12AM

It certainly lacks full transparency.

bbuckner22 · June 8, 2013 10:16AM

Would Ebay pull it if enough of us complain? Guy needs to be kicked in nuts by every board member here, except for BBG

BaltimoreYankee · June 8, 2013 10:17AM

You would think at least he'd be smart enough to have a separate buying account.

MintMoondog · June 8, 2013 10:18AM

holy s**t TNP are the two auctions you are referring to BBG and the current fraudulent box? Is there something can be done? I would appreciate that POS seller to get out his computer generated micrometer and justify the difference in the two images. Nice investigative work.

grote15 · June 8, 2013 10:22AM

<< You would think at least he'd be smart enough to have a separate buying account. >>

That was my first thought...I mean, geez, it's even the two most recent feedbacks he received!

The reseals are god-awful, too. Can't believe anyone would even bid on this crap.

MBMiller25 · June 8, 2013 10:23AM

What a shame, I really feel for the person that buys this box thinking they are getting genuine product.

ldferg · June 8, 2013 10:44AM

Great work pulling this together. I was wondering if this could be identified.

Nikklos · June 8, 2013 10:47AM

Wow. That is some messed-up stuff.

TNP777 · June 8, 2013 10:47AM

<< holy s**t TNP are the two auctions you are referring to BBG and the current fraudulent box? Is there something can be done? I would appreciate that POS seller to get out his computer generated micrometer and justify the difference in the two images. Nice investigative work. >>

no, the box and wrappers were purchased from eBay seller mccall45. The cards that are in these resealed packs were likely purchased from newenglandsportscards (the seller's other recent buying feedback is from them), which I think is a division of 4SC. I don't think there is anything that suggests that a certain controversial member here has anything to do with this.

MintMoondog · June 8, 2013 10:49AM

I just reported item and sent seller a nasty message, what else can we do?

galaxy27 · June 8, 2013 10:53AM

Heading out for the evening, but I had to place a call regarding this. Whether or not it'll do any good remains to be seen, but the rep I spoke with (we actually had a coherent, fluid convo) assured me that the more red flags they receive, the better. So if you have a few spare minutes, click on 'Customer Service' (T/R on the home page), followed by 'Report an item'.......and you'll be able to take it from there. Just make sure you have the item number handy (190852857832), because it'll be required.

And if this doesn't do the trick, I have some vatos in SA.

MintMoondog · June 8, 2013 11:03AM

<< Heading out for the evening, but I had to place a call regarding this. Whether or not it'll do any good remains to be seen, but the rep I spoke with (we actually had a coherent, fluid convo) assured me that the more red flags they receive, the better. So if you have a few spare minutes, click on 'Customer Service' (T/R on the home page), followed by 'Report an item'.......and you'll be able to take it from there. Just make sure you have the item number handy (190852857832), because it'll be required.

And if this doesn't do the trick, I have some vatos in SA.

>>

Actually it is quite easy...go 1/2 way down the auction page above the item number and you'll see a "report item" button. just click on it and 3 quick questions and the report is sent - thanks every1

elsnorto · June 8, 2013 11:06AM

<< no, the box and wrappers were purchased from eBay seller mccall45. The cards that are in these resealed packs were likely purchased from newenglandsportscards (the seller's other recent buying feedback is from them), which I think is a division of 4SC. I don't think there is anything that suggests that a certain controversial member here has anything to do with this. >>

Wasn't it NESC who had listed an empty rack box and the rack header cards not too long ago? Selling rack headers are the same as selling gum in my mind... you know chances are 99.9% they are going to be used by resealing vermin!

I really had no idea resealing was so rampant on eBay before joining these boards. Unfortunately, most bidders on eBay still don't know.

Snorto~

Sethro · June 8, 2013 11:16AM

Report filed.

galaxy27 · June 8, 2013 11:17AM

<< Actually it is quite easy...go 1/2 way down the auction page above the item number and you'll see a "report item" button. just click on it and 3 quick questions and the report is sent - thanks every1 >>

Thanks bro. Not sure how I missed that, seeing as it's directly above the item number.

Quite possible that an obligatory shill bid was just thrown in for good measure.

A good evening to all.......we'll see what transpires.

otwcards · June 8, 2013 11:20AM

I've purchased several 1948 Leaf wrappers and own an empty display box. I hope that doesn't cause anyone to start pointing finger at me . . .

lahmejoon · June 8, 2013 11:22AM

WOW, nicely done, Geordie. Feedback as buyer tells the whole story. Incredible.

Giantsdude24 · June 8, 2013 11:22AM

Report filed as well, that is brazen AND ridiculous. Some people have no scruples...

otwcards · June 8, 2013 11:25AM

And not even any good... These are amateurish wraps, at best!

And for any bidder, how often can you see the cards in your "unopened" wax BEFORE you open them . . .

grote15 · June 8, 2013 11:26AM

On Jun-08-13 at 18:20:08 PDT, seller added the following information:
I've gotten some questions about this auction. The packs were passed down from my father but I bought the box off eBay. So the packs and cards didn't originally come together. I'm not an expert on baseball cards so I don't know why this would matter but I just wanted to clarify.

On Jun-08-13 at 18:22:49 PDT, seller added the following information:
Correction - The packs and box didn't originally come together.

Just added to the auction.. LOL..

MintMoondog · June 8, 2013 11:32AM

Sent: This box is a fraud, I suggest you read the PSA registry thread - you will be exposed very soon you piece of sh*t

Reply: What is PSA registery? I bought the box but the packs inside were my dad's.

Sent:http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=11&threadid=890998&STARTPAGE=1

Reply: Thank you for the heads up. I will edit the listing to show that I bought the box separately and that the packs did not come from that box.

Assessment: Occupy Wall-street protestor finds gainful employment Obama extolls the lower unemployment rate.

Sethro · June 8, 2013 11:55AM

<< 
Assessment: Another Capitalist practicing capitalist ideals. Lying, cheating, stealing is OK in the pursuit of a buck. >>

Fixed it for ya!

yankeeno7 · June 8, 2013 1:14PM

Someone is going to nail a GEM MINT 10 on that Koosman...this guy is only trying to better our hobby.

Foo3112 · June 8, 2013 1:26PM

...and this is why you don't sell boxes, wrappers AND the damn gum you goofball.

MintMoondog · June 8, 2013 1:28PM

<< 

<< 
Assessment: Another Capitalist practicing capitalist ideals. Lying, cheating, stealing is OK in the pursuit of a buck. >>

Fixed it for ya! >>

Naw, a true capitalist would have been too smart to get caught...this guy is obviously on pot

Juggs · June 8, 2013 1:42PM

You guys are awesome....unless I'm selling some shady stuff on ebay, then I hate you all.

ergoism · June 8, 2013 1:59PM

I just bid $10,000. I'm not letting this guy sell this.

Bubblebath, you promote crap like this.

SlugSports · June 8, 2013 2:05PM

<< You guys are awesome....unless I'm selling some shady stuff on ebay, then I hate you all. >>

+1 - now that's funny!

thunderdan · June 8, 2013 2:10PM

+1 million for ergoism.

Well done, sir.

Ride this POS like a Grand Canyon mule.

cpamike · June 8, 2013 2:12PM

<< +1 million for ergoism.

Well done, sir. >>

I second the motion!!!

bbuckner22 · June 8, 2013 2:14PM

Man, ease up on this guy. He has stated at least twice those bogus, poorly re-sealed packs were passed down from his father.

MintMoondog · June 8, 2013 2:15PM

If I bid 11,000 can we stick this guy with the selling fees?

bigdcards · June 8, 2013 2:18PM

Maybe the sellers story is true and he got the packs from his dad. Is it possible the guys dad was the worlds worst re-sealer and the seller is just now finding out his dad wasn't perfect? That's a rough moment.

ergoism · June 8, 2013 2:18PM

<< If I bid 11,000 can we stick this guy with the selling fees? >>

Yes, but I'm going to outbid you!

thunderdan · June 8, 2013 2:19PM

<< If I bid 11,000 can we stick this guy with the selling fees? >>

I'll take it up a lot higher than that if necessary.

MintMoondog · June 8, 2013 2:22PM

weeeee!!! this is actually fun now

TheGreatest79WaxboxEver

Damn! You guys didn't even give me 1 minute with that box at 10K

cpamike · June 8, 2013 2:26PM

<< weeeee!!! this is actually fun now >>

Henry, that is just wrong.

I like it though.

JustinsShoebox · June 8, 2013 2:28PM

<< 

<< If I bid 11,000 can we stick this guy with the selling fees? >>

Yes, but I'm going to outbid you! >>

LOL

Justin

tsalems1 · June 8, 2013 2:29PM

Damn!

I'm out bid at $22k!

tsalems1 · June 8, 2013 2:30PM

418 views on the auction!

LMAO!

otwcards · June 8, 2013 2:30PM

Unfortunately, now he has the opportunity to cancel the bids and end the auction. The fun thing would've been a couple of people agreeing to put in some massive snipes at the end. That would've left him with no chance and then the delay in getting it settled.

cpamike · June 8, 2013 2:30PM

<< Damn!

I'm out bid at $22k! >>

Come on Tom, you are going up against some hobby heavyweights.

cpamike · June 8, 2013 2:33PM

<< Unfortunately, now he has the opportunity to cancel the bids and end the auction. The fun thing would've been a couple of people agreeing to put in some massive snipes at the end. That would've left him with no chance and then the delay in getting it settled. >>

Scott, you are right about that. The problem is this guy will only get better next time and use another account to buy from. Hopefully, he gets spooked and moves on to something else, but with the way money is flying with unopened lately, you'll see more and more of this.

bigdcards · June 8, 2013 2:33PM

<< Damn!

I'm out bid at $22k! >>

8 days 21 hrs to go

ergoism · June 8, 2013 2:33PM

<< Unfortunately, now he has the opportunity to cancel the bids and end the auction. The fun thing would've been a couple of people agreeing to put in some massive snipes at the end. That would've left him with no chance and then the delay in getting it settled. >>

Believe it or not, this way is still very fun. He's going to have a very hard time selling this box.

MintMoondog · June 8, 2013 2:34PM

That guy has to be pissing his pants and swearing off pot as I type...hmm, I seem to be against some tough competition, I might have to go the chip bidding route

Freshly made 1979 Topps Box

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