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cameron12xcameron12x Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭
Thoughts on a technical grade?

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Cleaned or original skin?

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  • sniocsusniocsu Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭
    F+ / VF. Cleaned, but not recently
  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭✭
    Strong VF, and doesn't looked cleaned to me...

    Nice coin image
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  • daOnlyBGdaOnlyBG Posts: 1,060 ✭✭
    VF20
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  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    VF35
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cleaned and retoning, VF-35.

    Would be considered "market acceptable" today. BTW ... nice early stage die cracks on the reverse.
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  • LochNESSLochNESS Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭


    << <i>F+ / VF. Cleaned, but not recently >>


    ooo, nice one! +1 for "cleaned but not recently" as I can see some worn-down scratches on the obv fields
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  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭✭
    It's pushing on 40, but I think the lack of luster and cleaning hold it back.
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,868 ✭✭✭✭✭
    vf-35
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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    VF25 (not cleaned)
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  • cameron12xcameron12x Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭
    So, we've got a range of F18 to VF38 so far.

    Need a larger sample size. image
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF-25

    It may have been cleaned a very long time ago, but since it has re-toned nicely, it doesn't matter.
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd say VF30 and MA.
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • VF25
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  • Looks goodimage
    VF-20
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF20-25....Photograph judging is always dicey... Cheers, RickO
  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd say a 20 or 25.
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    VF30
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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>F+ / VF. Cleaned, but not recently >>



    Nope, not cleaned. Would slab as XF40/VF35.
  • nagsnags Posts: 821 ✭✭✭✭
    VF 25-30
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF20 from where I sit, and if cleaned, that happened a long time ago and it is totally "market acceptable" if I were the market.

    Edit (after a second look)- bump me up to VF30.

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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>VF20 from where I sit, and if cleaned, that happened a long time ago and it is totally "market acceptable" if I were the market.

    Edit (after a second look)- bump me up to VF30. >>



    It's so funny that pieces which people swear up and down haven't ever been cleaned, more often than not shine across the room as if a brillo pad had been used to do the work, have been soap-and-watered ad infinitum, etc. And vice-versa for pieces which in fact have never been cleaned.

    Makes me want to have folks offer me their "cleaned" pieces, but since you never know what you're going to get, they all have to be taken on a case-by-case basis.

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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF35
  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>VF20 from where I sit, and if cleaned, that happened a long time ago and it is totally "market acceptable" if I were the market.

    Edit (after a second look)- bump me up to VF30. >>



    It's so funny that pieces which people swear up and down haven't ever been cleaned, more often than not shine across the room as if a brillo pad had been used to do the work, have been soap-and-watered ad infinitum, etc. And vice-versa for pieces which in fact have never been cleaned.

    Makes me want to have folks offer me their "cleaned" pieces, but since you never know what you're going to get, they all have to be taken on a case-by-case basis. >>


    Maybe you should take a second look at the right obverse field before you start calling people out. image
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>VF20 from where I sit, and if cleaned, that happened a long time ago and it is totally "market acceptable" if I were the market.

    Edit (after a second look)- bump me up to VF30. >>



    It's so funny that pieces which people swear up and down haven't ever been cleaned, more often than not shine across the room as if a brillo pad had been used to do the work, have been soap-and-watered ad infinitum, etc. And vice-versa for pieces which in fact have never been cleaned.

    Makes me want to have folks offer me their "cleaned" pieces, but since you never know what you're going to get, they all have to be taken on a case-by-case basis. >>


    Maybe you should take a second look at the right obverse field before you start calling people out. image >>



    LOL! Got no problem whatsoever with the right obverse field, light, wispy old contact marks. image Perhaps you're just seeing problems that aren't actually there. And after all, we're talking about an image of a coin, vs. in-hand inspection, but I have zero problem placing this one into the not-cleaned category.

    As well, there's a nice buildup of undisturbed, naturally placed grime around the periphery of Liberty, especially around her hand, wrist and cap. Directly adjacent to the field that frankly, I'm mystified as to what you're seeing that indicates a cleaning has taken place.

    While we all know the the TPG's will grade coins that are drop-dead original as well as "market acceptably" cleaned, I would be more than happy to put up $ that this coin would grade without issue at our hosts.
  • cameron12xcameron12x Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭
    One thing to consider when grading twenty cent pieces is that "LIBERTY" is not an incuse design; the letters are raised and wear much more quickly.

    Therefore one can't use a full LIBERTY as a complete basis to reach VF20 and beyond.

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