2013 Reverse Proof $50 Buffalo...

Raufus · May 9, 2013 2:00PM

Just curious, who's buying?

Assuming the current model of unlimited orders taken over a month or so, I still think that this, like the UHR, will be great medium to long term even if the sales numbers are high. Whether or not this is the sales model, I hope to buy several - one or two to keep and more to sell in a few years. Given the popularity of this coin and how fantastic an RP will look, the UHR model seems valid. Of course, the 20th anniv. AGE RP, while it's done well, has not done as well as I thought that it would.

I'm very interested in what others think.

Thanks, R-

coinsarefun · May 9, 2013 2:04PM

I can't wait

mariner67 · May 9, 2013 3:50PM

<< I can't wait

>>

+1

As to level of future price appreciation......who really knows?
Probably a safe bet however.

Overdate · May 9, 2013 4:54PM

The UHR was a one-of-a-kind. The RP Buffalo, like the RP gold, silver and platinum eagles, is an existing design in a different finish, with a possibility of more to come. I don't expect it to do as well in terms of price appreciation.

morgansforever · May 9, 2013 8:11PM

I was completely unaware of a RP Buff. Is this being offered soon?

Raufus · May 9, 2013 9:54PM

No date announced yet.

I hope that they only do one RP buff.

edgar · May 9, 2013 10:22PM

Yes!

2013 Reverse Proof Gold Buffalo Coin

ricko · May 9, 2013 11:38PM

Likely not a long term winner... will be a short term flip winner......Cheers, RickO

drfish · May 9, 2013 11:40PM

This may drive down the numbers for the regular proof and create an opportunity for knocking off the 08w or 12w.

mbogoman · May 9, 2013 11:46PM

I'm in for two - one to keep and one to sell....eventually. I'm elated that the mint decided not to produce any fractional denominations. Keep those 2008 fractionals as "one year only" issues!!!

Raufus · May 10, 2013 12:44AM

<< I'm in for two - one to keep and one to sell....eventually. I'm elated that the mint decided not to produce any fractional denominations. Keep those 2008 fractionals as "one year only" issues!!! >>

Could not agree more regarding the fractionals.

Zubie · May 10, 2013 4:45AM

Wow, that is a pretty coin!

2013 Buffalo Reverse

Classof67 · May 10, 2013 5:17AM

In for a couple!

originalisbest · May 10, 2013 5:53AM

I must be the only one who sees no novelty, only ugly. To me the reverse proof look is one of the fugliest presentations, ever, no matter the design. It actually makes the Shriver commem look good in comparison -- and that's saying something!

Rarity · May 10, 2013 7:04AM

I only wish the Mint produces the 1/2 oz REV PR buffalo instead of the full ounce one.

The Mint should have made both the regular PR and reverse PR UHR coin back in 2009?

knoxy4 · May 10, 2013 2:30PM

As a youngish, new collector I have not spent more then $150 on a coin needless to say I have no gold or anything very "cool" but I will put all my unnecessary purchases aside so I can scrape together for one of those. Made my weekend with this news. (I hope that doesn't make me sound lame.)

TwoSides2aCoin · May 10, 2013 2:39PM

<< As a youngish, new collector I have not spent more then $150 on a coin needless to say I have no gold or anything very "cool" but I will put all my unnecessary purchases aside so I can scrape together for one of those. Made my weekend with this news. (I hope that doesn't make me sound lame.)

>>

You sound like the kind of collector I am (at heart, though older). Be yourself and collect what you like. The rest of the world can blow it out their "LIKE" button.

jdimmick · May 10, 2013 4:12PM

I am in the ugly camp

Gold in reverse proof I do not care for, silver looks okay,

pf70collector · May 10, 2013 8:43PM

Interesting. But it looks like the mint may never do fractional Buffalos again. Only the one ouncers. So this may be good for the 2008 fractionals. I will try to buy one from the mint and hope for a PF70 First Stike. Probably be aournd $1750. Hope it is late fall though when they are offered. I just sold my2006 AGE PCGS PR70 First Strike Reverse Proof last month as well as all my other platinum and silver reverse proofs.

johnny9434 · May 11, 2013 2:24AM

<< Likely not a long term winner... will be a short term flip winner......Cheers, RickO >>

agreed

7Jaguars · May 11, 2013 3:05AM

Score one more for the "ugly" camp. IMO, part of the appeal to the original design was the rugged look of the chief in particular but also the buffalo. Reverse the proofing and the coin becomes glitzed and perfect for the Red Carpet...LOL

What would JEF, the original designer have said?

OPA · May 11, 2013 8:09AM

<< Score one more for the "ugly" camp. IMO, part of the appeal to the original design was the rugged look of the chief in particular but also the buffalo. Reverse the proofing and the coin becomes glitzed and perfect for the Red Carpet...LOL

What would JEF, the original designer have said? >>

Well, the 2 of u are definitely in the minority

7Jaguars · May 11, 2013 3:03PM

Yes, think that's the case.

Still, do you not agree that mirroring a design that is supposed to reveal the ruggedness and raw character is given Hollywood glitz by the proof process in general, and even more by the reverse proof?

My favorite is the uncirculated version of the $10 quarter ounce obviously...

CCC2010 · May 11, 2013 8:39PM

Thanks for sharing this info. I think it looks

Raufus · May 11, 2013 11:37PM

I have to say given the photo of the RP I'm not nearly as big a fan as I thought that I'd be.

Still in for two - a keeper and a flipper.

Then there is the regular proof buff and the UNC AGE - man, shaping up to be an expensive year.

GritsMan · May 12, 2013 1:54AM

Hm... Undecided on whether I like the look of the RP in gold. I probably will once I see it in hand. Just hoping gold drops a bit more before release!

LanLord · May 12, 2013 2:02AM

The RP image is a little difficult for me to get a real feel for.

My first opinion is that I really don't care for it. I'll reserve final judgement for better pics.

TwoSides2aCoin · May 12, 2013 2:56AM

How will a frosted design in a field of lumps look ? ? My customer insists on 24K gold. There's no argument , only unanswered questions. How will it look in hand ? She barely opens the box and then stashes them. And those type of customers I beg... "PLEASE put my business card with your coins, so when you die, your family will bring them back to me "
She says: "I already outlived most of my boyfriends , Joe"

pf70collector · May 12, 2013 3:05AM

The mint is wearing out the reverse proof design in my opinion. Time to do more ultra high reliefs instead.

Raufus · May 21, 2013 12:32PM

I was reading in NN that the RP Buff will be minted to demand. I wonder what that demand will be.

It looks like going forward, there won't be any more limited mintage sets which sell out in a day. Bodes very well for some sets like the ASE 25th set.

Overdate · May 21, 2013 12:55PM

<< How will a frosted design in a field of lumps look ? ? >>

Probably not much different than the field of lumps on uncirculated buffalos. I wish they'd get rid of the lumps altogether.

Goldbully · May 24, 2013 4:35AM

CoinNewsNet
Proof and Reverse Proof 2013-W American Buffalo Gold Coin Images
by Mike Unser on May 22, 2013

Collectors with limited budgets may have to decide on buying just one of the two 2013-W American Buffalo Gold Coins that will be released by the United States Mint this year. This article provides coin images for the two versions to offer comparisons that may help in making a buying decision.

On Thursday, May 23, 2013, the U.S. Mint will release its standard, annually issued 2013-W Proof American Buffalo Gold Coin. At a future yet-to-be announced date, the U.S. Mint will also release a special 2013-W Reverse Proof American Buffalo Gold Coin to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the design appearing on both coins. Never before has the Mint released this type of Buffalo coin.

Just to be clear, the standard version that has been issued annually since 2006 is a proof. The commemorative version for the centennial is a reverse proof.

"Reversing the mirror-like background finish of a traditional proof coin and applying it to the design elements of the coin achieves a magnificent contrast," the United States Mint website describes.

Found on American Buffalo Gold Coins is the heads and tails designs as first created by James Earle Fraser for the original 1913 Type I Buffalo nickel. This includes a heads with a profile of a Native American and a reverse with the image of an American Buffalo.

Since their original release, all Buffalo gold coins have been composed from 24-karat, or 99.99% pure, gold. Because of their gold content, prices for the coins can change weekly. The standard annual proof will launch on the 23rd with a starting price of $1,790. The U.S. Mint has said it will use the same pricing method for when the reverse proof is released. While the totals can change, collectors are looking at a sizable, roughly $3,600 amount to own both coins. That is why some may stick to buying only one of them.

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7over8 · May 24, 2013 4:41AM

Im in.

RedSoxinNYC · May 24, 2013 11:16AM

I'm in for one

JazzmanJAB · May 24, 2013 11:44AM

<< Im in. >>

Raufus · May 24, 2013 1:02PM

Now that pic I like.

I'm in for two no matter what.

I really was thinking that the premium to spot would be better.

I seem to remember in 2006 that the first proof buffs were closer to spot.

Rarity · May 25, 2013 6:45AM

Mint website says 2013 proof buffalo is matte finish. Isn't it different from 2012?
I thought regular proof buffalo is DCAM brilliant not matte finish.

Overdate · May 26, 2013 7:35AM

<< Mint website says 2013 proof buffalo is matte finish. Isn't it different from 2012?
I thought regular proof buffalo is DCAM brilliant not matte finish. >>

I think the "matte finish" refers to the box, not the coin.

"The coin is presented in an elegant hardwood box with a matte finish and a leather-like inset."

The coin pictured on the Mint's website looks like a regular proof.

Type2 · May 26, 2013 7:55AM

I'm in for some.

drei3ree · May 26, 2013 8:23AM

I will buy one from the Mint and, if it's not PCGS 70, another from eBay...

Cameonut · May 26, 2013 8:53AM

I'm another in the "ugly camp" - I won't be buying any -too gimmicky for me. And I bet most people that think it is ugly are not posting in order to be politically correct.

Not to mention that I long ago have lost any desire to buy anything from the US Mint. (Oops - I mentioned it anyway).

Kaline6 · May 26, 2013 9:16AM

Kind of a disappointment; I had been excited about it.

Had the reverse proof been the norm since 2006 and the "normal" version the one just coming out, I would be thrilled and order for sure. It is a very handsome gold coin in its regular proof version.

mbogoman · May 26, 2013 9:50AM

I'm not sure...I was all ready to order one or two, but I really don't like the looks of it. Maybe it looks better in person, I don't know. But with the huge premium the mint now charges, it makes the decision tougher...

7over8 · May 26, 2013 10:32AM

there is no other answer but - you have to buy it.

drei3ree · May 26, 2013 11:03AM

<< I'm another in the "ugly camp" - I won't be buying any -too gimmicky for me. And I bet most people that think it is ugly are not posting in order to be politically correct.

Not to mention that I long ago have lost any desire to buy anything from the US Mint. (Oops - I mentioned it anyway). >>

I think all of the Mint's Reverse Proofs so far have been beautiful, so I'm gonna guess the 2013 Buffalo will be too! I think we need a PCGS RP registry set...

Justlooking · May 26, 2013 11:17AM

I don't like it.

FullStrike · May 27, 2013 3:01AM

I'm gonna hold out for the Official US Mint 1 oz " Hobo Nickel " Commemorative Tribute Coin that will honor all the Rail Ridin Hobos from the 1930 or whatever era those Coins were from.

The Mints running out of gimmicks. How long before they put my farce into production ?

epcjimi1 · May 27, 2013 3:51AM

There's so much contrast in the CW pic of the RP, all that black shadowing, kind of distorts the RP image compared to the regular finish proof. I think the RP will look good in hand, therefore, I'm staying the course, in for two RPs.

jmski52 · May 28, 2013 12:15AM

I'm gonna hold out for the Official US Mint 1 oz " Hobo Nickel " Commemorative Tribute Coin that will honor all the Rail Ridin Hobos from the 1930 or whatever era those Coins were from.

The Mints running out of gimmicks. How long before they put my farce into production ?

I'm not buying it unless it's an Enhanced Reverse Proof Hobo Nickel Commemorative Tribute Coin with Ed Moy's signature on the OGP and Phillip Diehl's signature on the Certificate of Authenticity in a Vervet-lined Mahoganey Case in a personally-monogrammed leather pouch.

mbogoman · May 28, 2013 1:48AM

<< in a Vervet-lined Mahoganey Case >>

Will the Vervet be alive or dead???

jmski52 · May 28, 2013 2:50AM

I keep all of my vervets in a cage in the crawlspace.

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