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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    This board can be a scary place at times

    mark

    I agree.

  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:
    We live in this PC world.
    What is next, the non-binary scouts?

    There's a woman at work, well, I guess a gender fluid person or something, and is offended that people use "ladies and gentlemen" when speaking to groups...

    And come on, nobody needs to know you're a furry and think your girl parts are curses.

    We work in a sweaty, unsafe, "crappy" warehouse and move big packages. No one cares.

  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So, is an Eagle Scout now going to be called a 'Bird Scout'? Doesn't have the same flair. If you whine hard enough the powers-that-be will eventually cave. Sad, sad, sad.

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 3, 2018 2:34AM

    @amwldcoin said:
    I gotta say this is alarming to me! When I grew up being in the Boy Scouts was tough at times. Life lessons learning how to be a man! I just can not picture a camping trip with girls along! Of course we would love it then! Yes I am getting there about to hit the 60 mark. I can't see the boys in todays society doing or having to do the things we used to have to do in Scouts.....much less the girls then. Maybe the girls would today....the kind that wanna be boys!

    No offense but I would hardly call the boy scouts tough. You want tough try the Marine Corps and yes we had female Marines as well, many of which were damn good soldiers. Scouts are cake.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins - I would rather you state your disagreement than give me a disagree. And what is your disagreement?

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 3, 2018 7:13AM

    b l I t z d u d e said;
    No offense but I would hardly call the boy scouts tough. You want tough try the Marine Corps and yes we had female Marines as well, many of which were damn good soldiers. Scouts are cake.

    I can handle just about anything but this is too much. With all due respect to the United States Army, MARINES are not soldiers, they are MARINES! Whew. Glad I got that off my chest.
    SEMPER FIDELIS

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Dime ..... The First Amendment is super important.

    I absolutely love the United States of America and I personally would Never burn the American Flag, But I will stand by those who want to demonstrate their right to freedom of speech.

    This is the great USA and we need to fight back against those who want to limit the first amendment and who want to jail reporters because of what they report.

    Yes, the First Amendment is VERY important. But burning the Flag is not speech. Did you read my post that had the actual words in it and the breakdown I did on it word for word. I didn't change a thing.....left it exactly as the writers wrote it. Can you imagine how our forefathers would feel if the saw that burning the Flag was OK and the First Amendment was interpreted as saying "THAT"!

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's really quite easy. It goes like this.....basically someone serving in the Navy is a SEAMAN. Someone serving in the Army is a SOLDIER. A MARINE is a MARINE always, active duty or not. And someone serving in the Air Force is an AIRPLANE POLISHER. At least that's how it was explained to me by Major W.R., U.S.M.C., ret. And he was always right. ALWAYS!
    SEMPER FIDELIS

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hydrant said:
    It's really quite easy. It goes like this.....basically someone serving in the Navy is a SEAMAN. Someone serving in the Army is a SOLDIER. A MARINE is a MARINE always, active duty or not. And someone serving in the Air Force is an AIRPLANE POLISHER. At least that's how it was explained to me by Major W.R., U.S.M.C., ret. And he was always right. ALWAYS!
    SEMPER FIDELIS

    An Army sergeant once told me that sailors are called "anchor crankers." :o

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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hydrant said:
    It's really quite easy. It goes like this.....basically someone serving in the Navy is a SEAMAN. Someone serving in the Army is a SOLDIER. A MARINE is a MARINE always, active duty or not. And someone serving in the Air Force is an AIRPLANE POLISHER. At least that's how it was explained to me by Major W.R., U.S.M.C., ret. And he was always right. ALWAYS!
    SEMPER FIDELIS

    As a California NATIONAL GUARDSMAN serving harsh duty at summer camp in Ft Irwin, I was known as the BARTENDER!

    (dispensing warm beer to tanker trainees in the blistering heat...... )

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:

    @topstuf said:

    @Hydrant said:
    It's really quite easy. It goes like this.....basically someone serving in the Navy is a SEAMAN. Someone serving in the Army is a SOLDIER. A MARINE is a MARINE always, active duty or not. And someone serving in the Air Force is an AIRPLANE POLISHER. At least that's how it was explained to me by Major W.R., U.S.M.C., ret. And he was always right. ALWAYS!
    SEMPER FIDELIS

    As a California NATIONAL GUARDSMAN serving harsh duty at summer camp in Ft Irwin, I was known as the BARTENDER!

    (dispensing warm beer to tanker trainees in the blistering heat...... )

    Thank you for your service

    m

    No disrespect intended, but I gave it a LOL since I was assuming that there might have been a double meaning there, thanking a military bartender for his service...

    Who says he didn't see any action - he delivered shots and got people bombed on a regular basis. :o

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @Justacommeman said:

    @topstuf said:

    @Hydrant said:
    It's really quite easy. It goes like this.....basically someone serving in the Navy is a SEAMAN. Someone serving in the Army is a SOLDIER. A MARINE is a MARINE always, active duty or not. And someone serving in the Air Force is an AIRPLANE POLISHER. At least that's how it was explained to me by Major W.R., U.S.M.C., ret. And he was always right. ALWAYS!
    SEMPER FIDELIS

    As a California NATIONAL GUARDSMAN serving harsh duty at summer camp in Ft Irwin, I was known as the BARTENDER!

    (dispensing warm beer to tanker trainees in the blistering heat...... )

    Thank you for your service

    m

    No disrespect intended, but I gave it a LOL since I was assuming that there might have been a double meaning there, thanking a military bartender for his service...

    Who says he didn't see any action - he delivered shots and got people bombed on a regular basis. :o

    Excepted with pleasure

    m

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    An Army sergeant once told me that sailors are called "anchor crankers

    most guys that served know the nicknames of their brother's.
    Navy --- squids.
    Marines --- jarheads.
    Army --- grunts.
    Air Force --- zoomies.
    Coast Guard --- mud ducks.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 3, 2018 10:43AM

    @amwldcoin said:
    I gotta say this is alarming to me! When I grew up being in the Boy Scouts was tough at times. Life lessons learning how to be a man!

    don’t know where you were a scout but we learned how to tie knots, pitch a tent and tell fart jokes.

    Maybe your troop hunted wolves and used their pelts for belts but my scouting experience was fun. Not tough.

    m

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 3, 2018 10:59AM

    @Justacommeman said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    I gotta say this is alarming to me! When I grew up being in the Boy Scouts was tough at times. Life lessons learning how to be a man!

    don’t know where you were a scout but we learned how to tie knots, pitch a tent and tell fart jokes.

    Maybe your troop hunted wolves and used their pelts for belts but my scouting experience was fun. Not tough.

    m

    Our boy scout troop was extremely tough. Most of the adult scout leaders were into bagging peaks and logging backpacking miles.

    Very hard as young kids, but also extremely fun. The most fun, however, was running a real cash casino in the back of the bus on the long trips to go backpacking somewhere remote B)

  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Type2 said:
    Let just cut it all out and just call them the Scouts put all the money in one pool and let them all do what ever they want. We cant fight any of this because some one will cry it's not fair. We don't have a men's room any more just wait something will happen.

    >

    There were only family bathrooms this morning when I had to use a public restroom. I don't see single people losing their minds.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Somehow this is all covered by the First Amendment........everything else is! :D:o:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,504 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 3, 2018 11:27AM

    @Justacommeman said:
    don’t know where you were a scout but we learned how to tie knots, pitch a tent and tell fart jokes.

    Maybe your troop hunted wolves and used their pelts for belts but my scouting experience was fun. Not tough.

    m

    Are you sure you weren't in the Girl Scouts? ;) Maybe you were ahead of your time. :D

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    I live by these words ........

    Be Prepared.

    On my honor, I will do my best. To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

    A Scout is Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent.

    That was then, this is now. How long will this oath last in the new co-mingled Scouts? Are the girls really going to be willing to agree to be, among other things, Loyal, Helpful, Obedient, and Reverent? This could get interesting... :D:D:D

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree obedient should go ...

    Loyalty to country and loyalty to your spouse are awesome traits.

    Helpful, awesome trait.

    Reverent, to the USA and your spouse, are awesome traits.

  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That reminds me, I saw a license plate the other day...

    RUH ROH

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:

    @topstuf said:

    @Hydrant said:
    It's really quite easy. It goes like this.....basically someone serving in the Navy is a SEAMAN. Someone serving in the Army is a SOLDIER. A MARINE is a MARINE always, active duty or not. And someone serving in the Air Force is an AIRPLANE POLISHER. At least that's how it was explained to me by Major W.R., U.S.M.C., ret. And he was always right. ALWAYS!
    SEMPER FIDELIS

    As a California NATIONAL GUARDSMAN serving harsh duty at summer camp in Ft Irwin, I was known as the BARTENDER!

    (dispensing warm beer to tanker trainees in the blistering heat...... )

    Thank you for your service

    m

    Noted. It was tough duty. Had to go into the PX in all that heat in a jeep pulling a quarter ton jeep trailer.
    Purchase beer. CHEAP beer.
    And the tankers would come in for repairs (we were an ordnance unit) and they'd rush to the "bar truck" with me in the back and eagerly buy as much beer as it would take to get them back to base at night.

    And it's NO PICNIC to sit in a deuce and a half all day in the Mojave desert dipping towels in the ice chests and swathing your head to keep cool (cold)

    It proved to be a mistake. I found out the hard way that it isn't a good idea to go from an ice-dipped head into 123 degree heat to trek to the mess truck.

    I shudda got a medal. B):D

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We once mistakenly wandered into the 29 Palms MARINE base.

    Marines lack tolerance for Nat'l Guard trucks. :D:D

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 3, 2018 12:43PM

    People want to make this a PC issue but It’s still about the Benjamin’s. The Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are both private sector organizations and both are broke. I think some would rather have both to cease to exist then combine and change.

    m

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hydrant said:
    It's really quite easy. It goes like this.....basically someone serving in the Navy is a SEAMAN. Someone serving in the Army is a SOLDIER. A MARINE is a MARINE always, active duty or not. And someone serving in the Air Force is an AIRPLANE POLISHER. At least that's how it was explained to me by Major W.R., U.S.M.C., ret. And he was always right. ALWAYS!
    SEMPER FIDELIS

    About right except the air force was civilian in uniform. Guess the case could be made that a seaman is a squid but anyways, Semper Fi brother.

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Azurescens said:

    @Type2 said:
    Let just cut it all out and just call them the Scouts put all the money in one pool and let them all do what ever they want. We cant fight any of this because some one will cry it's not fair. We don't have a men's room any more just wait something will happen.

    >

    There were only family bathrooms this morning when I had to use a public restroom. I don't see single people losing their minds.

    I've traveled all over Europe and Asia where unisex bathrooms are the norm, nobody gets bent out of shape about it. In America the rinosaurs always need something to complain about.

  • 59Horsehide59Horsehide Posts: 427 ✭✭✭

    @blitzdude

    About right except the air force was civilian in uniform.

    What does this mean? Not sure I follow your thinking. Thanks.

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @59Horsehide said:
    @blitzdude

    About right except the air force was civilian in uniform.

    What does this mean? Not sure I follow your thinking. Thanks.

    Not my thinking, it's what everyone called the Air Force when I was in the Marines.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:

    I've traveled all over Europe and Asia where unisex bathrooms are the norm, nobody gets bent out of shape about it. In America the rinosaurs always need something to complain about.

    Well I got pretty bent out of shape when I was in a particular Irish bar in Krakow, Poland, and the one unisex bathroom they had was a disgusting, dangerous mess. It seems that none of the ladies wanted to sit down so they all squatted and they must have had bad aim as they managed to get every square inch of the tiled bathroom soaking wet. If you didn't slip and fall inside, you still had to contend with the long staircase back down to the bar, and that Polish beer is strong. Usually it is the men's room that is disgusting but in Poland the two genders are quite equal in that area. :#:s

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 3, 2018 1:57PM

    I hear the new gender free scouts will keep the tried and true Boy Scouts motto.

  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Azurescens said:

    @DCW said:
    We live in this PC world.
    What is next, the non-binary scouts?

    There's a woman at work, well, I guess a gender fluid person or something, and is offended that people use "ladies and gentlemen" when speaking to groups...

    And come on, nobody needs to know you're a furry and think your girl parts are curses.

    That’s totally something a fox would do. That’s why I only hang out with other coyotes or civet cats.

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    I don't believe I've ever seen a 12 year old in the marines! ;)

    @blitzdude said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    I gotta say this is alarming to me! When I grew up being in the Boy Scouts was tough at times. Life lessons learning how to be a man! I just can not picture a camping trip with girls along! Of course we would love it then! Yes I am getting there about to hit the 60 mark. I can't see the boys in todays society doing or having to do the things we used to have to do in Scouts.....much less the girls then. Maybe the girls would today....the kind that wanna be boys!

    No offense but I would hardly call the boy scouts tough. You want tough try the Marine Corps and yes we had female Marines as well, many of which were damn good soldiers. Scouts are cake.

    Well then, that certainly explains why we didn't see you there. lol

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gonzer said:
    So, is an Eagle Scout now going to be called a 'Bird Scout'? Doesn't have the same flair. If you whine hard enough the powers-that-be will eventually cave. Sad, sad, sad.

    no they will still be called nerds , its a gender-neutral word

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,291 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    I agree obedient should go ...

    Loyalty to country and loyalty to your spouse are awesome traits.

    Helpful, awesome trait.

    Reverent, to the USA and your spouse, are awesome traits.

    I almost disagreed with you on the "obedient should go" but thought that maybe an explanation would be helpful in what was intended.

    It is easy enough to state the opposite - "we should all be dis-obedient".
    Any thoughts? Ever had a kid that wasn't obedient?

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    o·be·di·ent
    əˈbēdēənt,ōˈbēdēənt/Submit
    adjective
    complying or willing to comply with orders or requests; submissive to another's will.
    "she was totally obedient to him"

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