@JoeBanzai said:
Just bought this Chris, what is your opinion on these? I LOVE opening rack packs. Might try to put together a mint set. Trying to have some fun with the hobby.
Griffey's in a 10 go for $400.00 nothing much other than that. Several stars go for around $50.00.
I was a bit surprised at the price, being a Griffey rookie year.
Maybe I'll rip it and post results. Might be a good investment to keep sealed?
Joe
I always love ripping 1989 Donruss, since it’s a fairly inexpensive trip down memory lane and contains RCs of Griffey, Johnson, Schilling, Smoltz, Biggio and Sheffield. Rack is the best product for high grade candidates, plus you will land some stars showing on top for fun. The biggest challenge will be finding dead centered cards. Corners are usually clean in racks, but edges can be rough cut as they cranked the presses that year. Also look for black ink print spots/lines that year. If you decide to bust, please share the results. Congrats on the fun case purchase at a great price.
There's NO WAY this doesn't get opened 😁. I'll post results, but don't have a scanner right now, so phone pics will be the best I can do.
2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
I ripped 50 boxes of 85 OPC and submitted my 10 best and didn’t get one ten. The grader I got couldn’t deal with the OPC differences. Still have stacks of puckets, goodens, ryans etc.
Looking at the back, it looks like the top left corner has an issue.
@80sOPC said:
I ripped 50 boxes of 85 OPC and submitted my 10 best and didn’t get one ten. The grader I got couldn’t deal with the OPC differences. Still have stacks of puckets, goodens, ryans etc.
I'm still trying to figure out what I missed on this one....
Thanks for the info. In a previous submittal I sent in an OPC '85 Puckett and it came back an 8. I've had a little better luck with some OPC hockey getting a 9 on an '82 Fuhr RC. Never a 10 on anything except 2015 and newer hockey and baseball.
Any chance you could provide us with an update on how many PSA 10 candidates you have set aside for submission?
How many per set? Any duplicates set aside for a second submission per set? Any of rookies and stars?
Any changes in strategy in order to accomplish your goal?
I've followed your thread since the beginning and wish you the best of luck sir!
Any chance you could provide us with an update on how many PSA 10 candidates you have set aside for submission?
How many per set? Any duplicates set aside for a second submission per set? Any of rookies and stars?
Any changes in strategy in order to accomplish your goal?
I've followed your thread since the beginning and wish you the best of luck sir!
Thanks for your interest in the thread! To answer some of your questions, I have just over 3000 candidates for PSA 10 sitting aside. This is across all sets and years of the 1980s that I have been showing in these breaks. I am furthest along on the 1987 Fleer and 1985 Donruss sets, but still less than 30% of the way on either 🤣. I have about 400 additional candidates that are duplicates and sitting there in reserve.
My goal hasn’t changed, but my timeline to submit them certainly shifted as PSA grading fees went bonkers during the COVID hobby surge. It immediately became cost prohibitive to grade commons at $20 per card. Unless prices come back down into the $10-12 range, I am simply going to have some elite raw sets 👍. Either way, I will eventually submit the stars and key RCs from this journey. I have been patiently waiting on those, because I may still do one massive bulk sub.
I have slowed my ripping down on 1980-1986 until I see where the unopened market fully settles. I still break vending, but not wax and rack right now. I have been quietly ripping 1987 Topps and Fleer though, since those are a few of my favorite and most nostalgic sets. Plus the price on those isn’t going up anytime soon. I tend not to document here, so no one needs more 1987 Topps in there life ☑️
When I eventually sub, I will be sure to give an update here on how I do….the good and the bad. Until then, the candidates keep piling up slowly. With a success rate of about 1.5% of pack fresh cards, I should be close to complete by my 130th birthday 👌
Seeing this thread revived made me realize I hadn’t shared in a long time. I appreciate all the interest and kind words. While not technically the 1980s, I figured this group might enjoy a few loose packs I had sitting around from 1978.
Nothing that screams “grade me,” but always fun to find a Reggie.
Since I had a few more packs sitting around, I of course decided to go another round…
This is why we don’t rip 1970s, unless we really like to gamble. Always cool to pull a pack fresh Brett, but certainly not worth grading…
I bought this on the last day of August, and recently decided to go ahead and pop the seal to see what I had. I do not currently intend to open the packs. I was just looking for stars on top. A total of 3,600 cards for roughly the price of 2 1987 Donruss wax boxes. That's just absurd to me.
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I opened a case several years ago that had packs with a Larkin, a Maddux, and a McGwire on top, so this time I was hoping for packs with a Bo or the other Barry.
Here are the results. The packs on the right side of the pics all had a bend in the header card, even though there was no discernable damage on the outside of the case.
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Top layer of packs and there's the Barry that's in the HOF.
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Incaviglia was a semi-hot card back in the day among my circle of friends, mostly because of the cache bestowed on him by the Topps Rookie cup.
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Will the Thrill, which I'd forgotten about as one of the hot cards from this set back in the day, perhaps second only to the McGwire Rated Rookie by the time the 89 World Series took place.
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And... last layer......... BOOM! BARRY LAMAR!
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No Bo, but I can't complain. Hope you enjoyed.
Thanks for sharing the 1987 Donruss case reveal. Love that you landed both Barry’s and the Clark. One of my favorite sets of the 80s. Loaded with rookies and stars! Really hard to land high grade cards out of blister racks from my experience, so I like that you chose to keep them sealed…at least for now 🙃
Glad to have spurred some new activity on the thread! Thanks for the update, Chris, again really appreciate your sharing of all these rips, I learned a lot about the sets and grading standards from reading this. On grading, one thing I'd caution against is a big bulk sub. I think the best strategy is to get the total just high enough to get the cheapest rate, but then split it up somewhat. The biggest inconsistency at PSA, at least at the moment, is grader to grader. So if you subbed them all at once and got a bad one, it really could be a rough go. (On the other hand if you them all at once and get lucky with the one grader, its a windfall). I've had the best luck splitting them up, so on average I get the average grader, and don't have to swallow a terrible pop for all my cards. There is a little more to pay in shipping a few orders vs. just one order, but man I've found it worth it because I've had some batches that just boggle the mind with how wrong they are, and which I've proven by stubbornly resubmitting near entire orders to completely different results.
Last one for now.
No Griffey yet.
Enjoying the rip!
Cards are pretty well centered, some corner damage, but overall beautiful cards.
Not many cards worth much after the Griffey, at $30-50.00 for a PSA 10, cards will have to be perfect to send in and maybe still not get a 10.
Hope you guys enjoyed, comments and questions welcome!
2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
@JoeBanzai said:
...cards will have to be perfect to send in and maybe still not get a 10.
Hope you guys enjoyed, comments and questions welcome!
The 2 you singled out for 10s, the Henderson (top/bottom centering) and the Johnson (edges), I would be surprised if they got 10s.
I sent one in thinking it had a shot, but a few faint fisheyes and a tilt I missed, yielded a 9.
So yeah, perfect or forget it.
After opening several racks with no star players, I found a couple of winners.
Canseco HAS TO BE A 10!
Some of the others look like potential gems as well.
2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
Any chance you could provide us with an update on how many PSA 10 candidates you have set aside for submission?
How many per set? Any duplicates set aside for a second submission per set? Any of rookies and stars?
Any changes in strategy in order to accomplish your goal?
I've followed your thread since the beginning and wish you the best of luck sir!
Thanks for your interest in the thread! To answer some of your questions, I have just over 3000 candidates for PSA 10 sitting aside. This is across all sets and years of the 1980s that I have been showing in these breaks. I am furthest along on the 1987 Fleer and 1985 Donruss sets, but still less than 30% of the way on either 🤣. I have about 400 additional candidates that are duplicates and sitting there in reserve.
My goal hasn’t changed, but my timeline to submit them certainly shifted as PSA grading fees went bonkers during the COVID hobby surge. It immediately became cost prohibitive to grade commons at $20 per card. Unless prices come back down into the $10-12 range, I am simply going to have some elite raw sets 👍. Either way, I will eventually submit the stars and key RCs from this journey. I have been patiently waiting on those, because I may still do one massive bulk sub.
I have slowed my ripping down on 1980-1986 until I see where the unopened market fully settles. I still break vending, but not wax and rack right now. I have been quietly ripping 1987 Topps and Fleer though, since those are a few of my favorite and most nostalgic sets. Plus the price on those isn’t going up anytime soon. I tend not to document here, so no one needs more 1987 Topps in there life ☑️
When I eventually sub, I will be sure to give an update here on how I do….the good and the bad. Until then, the candidates keep piling up slowly. With a success rate of about 1.5% of pack fresh cards, I should be close to complete by my 130th birthday 👌
Nothing super exciting out of these four racks. Only one of the key rookies, and this one certainly isn’t worth grading…
Out of the twelve wax packs, there were only two candidates for PSA 10. Always an eye opening reminder on just how tough PSA 10s are even straight from fresh packs…
I have continued to rip lots of 1987 Topps without posting them here. Mostly because no one cares about 1987 Topps and also because it has the lowest hit rate on PSA 10 candidates of any of the 1980s products. They were printing and cutting them 24/7 throughout that year with no regard for quality control. Here goes half a rack box for this evenings entertainment…
Getting any centered 1987 Topps card proves challenging for me. All the top RCs made an appearance, which is always a fun nostalgic moment for me. As Joe correctly predicted, the Bonds is seldom centered…
Here was the only card that has a shot at PSA 10 out of 648 untouched cards…
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There's NO WAY this doesn't get opened 😁. I'll post results, but don't have a scanner right now, so phone pics will be the best I can do.
I ripped 50 boxes of 85 OPC and submitted my 10 best and didn’t get one ten. The grader I got couldn’t deal with the OPC differences. Still have stacks of puckets, goodens, ryans etc.
t> @STLKabong said:
Looking at the back, it looks like the top left corner has an issue.
Thanks for the info. In a previous submittal I sent in an OPC '85 Puckett and it came back an 8. I've had a little better luck with some OPC hockey getting a 9 on an '82 Fuhr RC. Never a 10 on anything except 2015 and newer hockey and baseball.
My cards on COMC
Hi Chris.
Any chance you could provide us with an update on how many PSA 10 candidates you have set aside for submission?
How many per set? Any duplicates set aside for a second submission per set? Any of rookies and stars?
Any changes in strategy in order to accomplish your goal?
I've followed your thread since the beginning and wish you the best of luck sir!
Thanks for your interest in the thread! To answer some of your questions, I have just over 3000 candidates for PSA 10 sitting aside. This is across all sets and years of the 1980s that I have been showing in these breaks. I am furthest along on the 1987 Fleer and 1985 Donruss sets, but still less than 30% of the way on either 🤣. I have about 400 additional candidates that are duplicates and sitting there in reserve.
My goal hasn’t changed, but my timeline to submit them certainly shifted as PSA grading fees went bonkers during the COVID hobby surge. It immediately became cost prohibitive to grade commons at $20 per card. Unless prices come back down into the $10-12 range, I am simply going to have some elite raw sets 👍. Either way, I will eventually submit the stars and key RCs from this journey. I have been patiently waiting on those, because I may still do one massive bulk sub.
I have slowed my ripping down on 1980-1986 until I see where the unopened market fully settles. I still break vending, but not wax and rack right now. I have been quietly ripping 1987 Topps and Fleer though, since those are a few of my favorite and most nostalgic sets. Plus the price on those isn’t going up anytime soon. I tend not to document here, so no one needs more 1987 Topps in there life ☑️
When I eventually sub, I will be sure to give an update here on how I do….the good and the bad. Until then, the candidates keep piling up slowly. With a success rate of about 1.5% of pack fresh cards, I should be close to complete by my 130th birthday 👌
Seeing this thread revived made me realize I hadn’t shared in a long time. I appreciate all the interest and kind words. While not technically the 1980s, I figured this group might enjoy a few loose packs I had sitting around from 1978.
Nothing that screams “grade me,” but always fun to find a Reggie.
Since I had a few more packs sitting around, I of course decided to go another round…
This is why we don’t rip 1970s, unless we really like to gamble. Always cool to pull a pack fresh Brett, but certainly not worth grading…
I bought this on the last day of August, and recently decided to go ahead and pop the seal to see what I had. I do not currently intend to open the packs. I was just looking for stars on top. A total of 3,600 cards for roughly the price of 2 1987 Donruss wax boxes. That's just absurd to me.
.
.
I opened a case several years ago that had packs with a Larkin, a Maddux, and a McGwire on top, so this time I was hoping for packs with a Bo or the other Barry.
Here are the results. The packs on the right side of the pics all had a bend in the header card, even though there was no discernable damage on the outside of the case.
.
.
Top layer of packs and there's the Barry that's in the HOF.
.
.
Incaviglia was a semi-hot card back in the day among my circle of friends, mostly because of the cache bestowed on him by the Topps Rookie cup.
.
.
Will the Thrill, which I'd forgotten about as one of the hot cards from this set back in the day, perhaps second only to the McGwire Rated Rookie by the time the 89 World Series took place.
.
.
And... last layer......... BOOM! BARRY LAMAR!
.
.
No Bo, but I can't complain. Hope you enjoyed.
That Brett looks nice! Isn't that a tough card to find in high grade?
Thanks for sharing the 1987 Donruss case reveal. Love that you landed both Barry’s and the Clark. One of my favorite sets of the 80s. Loaded with rookies and stars! Really hard to land high grade cards out of blister racks from my experience, so I like that you chose to keep them sealed…at least for now 🙃
Here we go!
Glad to have spurred some new activity on the thread! Thanks for the update, Chris, again really appreciate your sharing of all these rips, I learned a lot about the sets and grading standards from reading this. On grading, one thing I'd caution against is a big bulk sub. I think the best strategy is to get the total just high enough to get the cheapest rate, but then split it up somewhat. The biggest inconsistency at PSA, at least at the moment, is grader to grader. So if you subbed them all at once and got a bad one, it really could be a rough go. (On the other hand if you them all at once and get lucky with the one grader, its a windfall). I've had the best luck splitting them up, so on average I get the average grader, and don't have to swallow a terrible pop for all my cards. There is a little more to pay in shipping a few orders vs. just one order, but man I've found it worth it because I've had some batches that just boggle the mind with how wrong they are, and which I've proven by stubbornly resubmitting near entire orders to completely different results.
Great centering, good Star power in first cel.
Huge print spot on Jose.
Bad cel.
Nice McGriff!
Nice Sabo.
Rickey has a shot at a 10!?
Clark is nice too.
10? Only a $43.00 card.
Meh.
Gwynn looks nice, Schilling not so much. The Harkey Rated Rookie was upside down in the cel.
Ouch!
Good Star power, centering off a bit.
Nice Ozzie
Last one for now.
No Griffey yet.
Enjoying the rip!
Cards are pretty well centered, some corner damage, but overall beautiful cards.
Not many cards worth much after the Griffey, at $30-50.00 for a PSA 10, cards will have to be perfect to send in and maybe still not get a 10.
Hope you guys enjoyed, comments and questions welcome!
So many bad mustaches in the 80s. Looking at you, Curt Schilling.
I bet some of those guys would like to burn all their cards from this era.
The 2 you singled out for 10s, the Henderson (top/bottom centering) and the Johnson (edges), I would be surprised if they got 10s.
I sent one in thinking it had a shot, but a few faint fisheyes and a tilt I missed, yielded a 9.
So yeah, perfect or forget it.
^^That's a SWEET Puckett!^^
Joe,
Nice start. That Randy looks like it has a chance. Only thing I see is a slight rough cut on the upper left edge. Good looking card.
Here's a few more, not thrilled 😔.
Mike Schmidt on top, worth anything, or are ones with Griffey and Johnson showing the only racks with value?
Nothing.
Not much better. 🥴
RATS!
I know he's not a $ card, but hoping for a nice Puckett.
Centering has shifted from good/great to pretty bad, at least for submitting purposes.
Things going poorly 😞.
Cutting back on pictures unless it's worth sharing.
I may be curled up in the fetal position soon.
Best card so far? Centered well enough top to bottom?
Is this worth getting excited about?
Any thoughts on value?
After opening several racks with no star players, I found a couple of winners.
Canseco HAS TO BE A 10!
Some of the others look like potential gems as well.
Looks like the last Donruss rack with Ryan showing went for $13.00. 🥴
RIP THEM ALL!
P.S. the white spot on the Ripken is a speck of dust.
No chance😞
Anyone else feeling the need to rip a few packs today? Going to start with my favorite set design of the 80s…
Thank you for the update!
Nothing super exciting out of these four racks. Only one of the key rookies, and this one certainly isn’t worth grading…
Out of the twelve wax packs, there were only two candidates for PSA 10. Always an eye opening reminder on just how tough PSA 10s are even straight from fresh packs…
I have continued to rip lots of 1987 Topps without posting them here. Mostly because no one cares about 1987 Topps and also because it has the lowest hit rate on PSA 10 candidates of any of the 1980s products. They were printing and cutting them 24/7 throughout that year with no regard for quality control. Here goes half a rack box for this evenings entertainment…
Good luck on getting a centered Bonds!!!
Getting any centered 1987 Topps card proves challenging for me. All the top RCs made an appearance, which is always a fun nostalgic moment for me. As Joe correctly predicted, the Bonds is seldom centered…
Here was the only card that has a shot at PSA 10 out of 648 untouched cards…
Beautiful Murphy!
Going to finish up the other half of this 1987 Topps rack box and then find some other fun stuff to rip today…