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would you pay $11K for this 1923 peace dollar?

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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No,

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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For an impaired strike? hmmm

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I might, if I saw it in-hand first. The fingerprint over the date is a potential turnoff. I bet it has dreamy-thick frost & stupendous luster.

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No.

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I bet there aren’t five people who frequent this forum who would pay that for ANY Peace dollar.

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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BryceM said:
    I bet there aren’t five people who frequent this forum who would pay that for ANY Peace dollar.

    You would lose that bet, and in a hurry.

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    DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll take a Zerbe Peace for $11,000 please PM me for my address

    Doug
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    abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Look at that cheek! Worth 10K alone. A near perfect Peace dollar is a joy to behold.

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,286 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If that's a regular business strike, in some ultra-graded plastic, then the answer is NO.

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 26, 2018 1:44AM

    No as I saw the fingerprint way before I saw the coin.

    Even if in an older holder every time I glanced at it would be reminded it was once handled by a dip$#!+

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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nope !!!

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    TwobitcollectorTwobitcollector Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Probably the prettiest Peace $ I've ever seen.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A common date with a fingerprint. Is there something else about it that a specialist would love?

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    CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can't get by the huge fingerprint.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Broadstruck said:
    No as I saw the fingerprint way before I saw the coin.

    Even if in an older holder every time I glanced at it would be reminded it was once handled by a dip$#!+

    These were for commerce. That gentle soul's fingerprint could just have been a Mint worker in 1923.

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 26, 2018 6:48AM

    @Wabbit2313 said:

    @BryceM said:
    I bet there aren’t five people who frequent this forum who would pay that for ANY Peace dollar.

    You would lose that bet, and in a hurry.

    Well, you’re probably right, especially when you throw in dealers. My point is that the pool of buyers for 5-figure condition rarity Peace dollars isn’t terribly huge. If you ask the question on an open forum, 99% of the respondents can automatically answer no without even looking at the photo. Certainly there are loads of people here who could buy it if they were inclined to, but that’s a different question. Is it worth $11k? is also a different question.

    BTW @hickoryridge, that’s a nice coin!

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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's no way in hell I'd pay $11K for a fingerprint.

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's Elvis's thumbprint !

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    jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No.

    Too much chatter in the fields (and on the cheek) for a 67.

    Not to mention the fingerprint.

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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,681 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, I would not... It is impaired with the fingerprint, and even if it was not, it is just a 'nice' Peace dollar. I do not know if anyone did pay that price... I certainly hope not. Cheers, RickO

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    But what if it stickered GOLD?
    :D

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    DCWDCW Posts: 7,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No way!
    I'd be content with the example posted by @hickoryridge . (Which I find a whole lot more original)
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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,659 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, that's the difference between raw and certified, a huge dollar sign. How many dealers scrutinize Peace dollars for potential bonanzas?

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    MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How about $7500 for this one that sold last night at Legend?

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    goldengolden Posts: 10,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No.

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    skier07skier07 Posts: 4,752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does a finger print affect the technical grade of a MS 66 + coin?

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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mach1ne said:
    How about $7500 for this one that sold last night at Legend?

    https://legendauctions.hibid.com/lot/37051542/-1-1922-pcgs-ms66?q=1922

    If you have any nice toned dollars to sell, Legend is certainly the way to go. I am always amazed at the auction results from those folks.

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    jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @skier07 said:
    Does a finger print affect the technical grade of a MS 66 + coin?

    No, but it certainly affects the market value.

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,609 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BryceM said:
    I bet there aren’t five people who frequent this forum who would pay that for ANY Peace dollar.

    One

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    shishshish Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No! regardless of the grade.

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    CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 26, 2018 10:29AM

    Not a chance in hell! Its got a finger print to boot!

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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Even this ultra-high grade Peace dollar has mushy letters on the reverse. Great design but not suitable for mass production.

    The $1k coin in MS66+/CAC seems like a much better value.

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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @topstuf said:
    But what if it stickered GOLD?
    :D

    Then of course the fingerprint wouldn't be visible to the lemmings.

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it...fingerprint and all........bubble cheek.....great strike......ETC.

    But I don't like it THAT much (pricewise)

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,810 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At $11k that fingerprint does matter.

    So far as I'm concerned there is not a 1923-P on the planet that is worth that much, but I'm not a Peace Dollar fan.

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin and a solid MS-66/maybe 67 in person. If someone wants to pay $11,000 for it, that's up to them.

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    abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    11K is chump change for those seeking high quality and eye popping appeal Peace coins.

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's a funny thing about Peace dollars and originality. In every series there are folks who like their coins white and folks who like their coins with a little original skin on them. There seems to be a strong trend at the upper end of most classic series to prefer "original" looking coins, or maybe more accurately coins with pretty colors that can pass for original.

    This is decidedly not true for Peace dollars. Morgan collectors seem to either like blast white or psychedelic rainbows. There are people who like high-grade Peace dollars with original toning, but these seem to be in the minority. The highest prices always seem to go to the blast white coins. Dealers always see the white coins sell more quickly. Some of this is probably due to a decided lack of pretty toning in this series (there's no bag-toned, textile or rainbow Morgan equivalent) but not all. I see an enormous trend to dip such coins and I agree that the white fingerprint probably represents a dip. Sooner or later, this is going to eliminate or severely reduce the mint luster that these beauties started with.

    Dipped & stripped Peace dollars have a nasty habit of coming back ugly too. I bought a technically phenomenal, drop-dead gorgeous white 1925 that got a bad case of the measles a year or two after buying it. As a white dollar, it's extremely valuable. As a raisin-speckled coin, its value has certainly dropped by several thousand dollars, even with the "right" plastic and green sticker. PCGS refused to fix it. So, my desire to own coins like the OP posted has fallen off quite a bit. Give me booming luster and a bit of original skin any day of the week.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no thats to much money for that, jmo

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    silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no

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    KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CCFanetic said:

    so if Laura sold it, it's not a "dreck"?

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    kimber45ACPkimber45ACP Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭

    No. I look at the hair first on all Peace dollars and that one is flat.

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Look for a 21 with good hair upcoming in Great Collections. :D

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    abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @topstuf said:
    Look for a 21 with good hair upcoming in Great Collections. :D

    Are we on a dating website?!

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @abcde12345 said:

    @topstuf said:
    Look for a 21 with good hair upcoming in Great Collections. :D

    Are we on a dating website?!

    My 21 likes walking in the rain, dancing, daytrips, and pomeranians. :D

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The short answer is No.

    The rationale is simple... Common date and I would be satisfied with a 65 saving me about 10,875 to use towards something rare.

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    KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 26, 2018 3:28PM

    @coinkat said:
    The short answer is No.

    The rationale is simple... Common date and I would be satisfied with a 65 saving me about 10,875 to use towards something rare.

    & nice, & I'd spend the 11 grand, by not buying such common widget.

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