Is there any chopmarked gold?

topstuf

Don't make me Google it.

Like to know if there is if it's foreign or US. I'd guess foreign, but who knows?

BruceS

Not sure what the metal content is, but its gold in color.

TennesseeDave

There's a picture of a chopmarked $20 in the Chopmark mini summit thread.

ColonelJessup

Brasher doubloons? Also, skip Google but do some homework on HA archives "regulated gold".

On the other hand, if you're trolling for pictures and snippets, who's to argue?

Boosibri

@BruceS said:
Not sure what the metal content is, but its gold in color.

Spanish milled 8 reales is silver

mvs7

@Boosibri said:
Spanish milled 8 reales is silver

@BruceS - Your photo is just not white balanced... that's what's accounting for the "gold" hue of the photo, but that is a silver coin as Boosibri stated. You can make a "gold" Washington Quarter by the same "technique."

PerryHall

I remember that at a major coin show many years ago there was an exhibit showing chop marked coins and there was a US $10 gold Liberty with a few very small chop marks. I still remember it because I'd never seen a gold coin with chop marks and I haven't seen one since.

OriginalDan

I've been offered a couple different U.S. $10 gold pieces, one raw and one in a PCGS holder labeled "Chopmarked". In my opinion, both had marks in the fields but neither had marks that I would consider legitimate marks placed by Chinese merchants in the period we generally accept that Chopmarks were applied. I could definitely be wrong. If they weren't so dang expensive (mainly for gold content, and one was a CC), I would have picked up at least one of them as a curiosity.

You have to remember that gold was not part of the Chinese monetary system and wasn't used for business. Some believe that there are legitimately chopmarked gold pieces, and there probably are, but one must be very, very skeptical if you're looking to find a gold coin that was chopmarked by a chinese merchant in the 1700's or 1800's. That mark could very well have been applied 20 years ago, or could be damage that happens to kinda sorta look like a chinese character.

Justacommeman

Do the ones Glicker bites count?

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DDR

I have a gold Venician Francesco Erizzo Zechino (1631-1646) with a clear, bold chopmark on the obverse. Sorry, no pic. However, the "chopmark" may be Persian, rather than Chinese.

Crypto

Lots of gold coins were chopped, tested, marked or regulated for inclusion into the local
Economies of many countries. If the question if the Chinese took park on a large scale the question would be no, if a few pieces hit their metal markets and were branded I would guess so. I have just never seen an unequivocally convincing example of American coinage to have had it happen to.

Weiss

One I posted in a thread a few weeks back. Bears a drill / cut mark sometimes referred to as a "trifoil" mark:

ricko

I have not seen a chop marked gold coin.... I have seen a couple with the 'drill' mark and a couple with edge cuts. I would not automatically attribute these to the Chinese market, although it is certainly possible. Cheers, RickO

TLeverage

Multiple chopmarked gold pieces existed in the Rose collection, including U.S. gold of both the $10 and $20 denomination, but whether or not those marks were applied in the typical date range of genuine chops is anyone's guess. I believe at least one or two specimens to be likely genuine.

Echoing OriginalDan, gold was not a conventional medium of exchange in China, and thus is unlikely to be found chopped.