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Peace Dollar NEWP - updated with grade posted

YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 29, 2017 6:10AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I recently let it be known that I might start a Peace dollar set to go with my colonial collection of early 8 Reales.
I gave into temptation. Here is my recent Peace dollar purchase.
I have never started a "guess the grade" thread (until now).
The only photo I have of the coin is the TrueView, so please don't look it up until after you have recorded your opinion.
What say you? What grade would you give this one?

It is a 65 with subdued luster.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 20,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's gorgeous! That obverse is screaming MS66, but the reverse is marked up enough along the length of the eagle's body, especially on the right leg above the talons and along the center of the body, to merit MS65. If correct, I think that is a terrific coin for the grade.

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  • ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would give it a grade of 'Very Nice'...great looking coin and thanks for posting!

    K

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  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 28, 2017 1:33PM

    Thanks, TomB, for the nice comments. Coming from someone with your experience and reputation for having a good eye, that means a lot!

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  • drfishdrfish Posts: 938 ✭✭✭✭

    65+

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    really nice, I'd go 65+

    Frank

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,804 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2017 5:16PM

    .

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Take back went and looked at the eagles leg and it has to be a 65

  • Peace_dollar88Peace_dollar88 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭✭✭

    WOW! Gem quality for sure. I would say 66.

  • ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,971 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gorgeous. I would hope that the obverse would carry it to a 66!

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,866 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree with others, really nice 65

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it's in a 65 or 65+ holder, probably with green bean, but it has the look of most coins in 66 holders. If it's in a 65 holder it is very nice for grade. Detail is excellent. I'm going to depart from TomB's expert opinion just a little bit. Judging the TrueView, I'd say luster, while full, is ever so slightly subdued, accounting for the grade. The few marks on the reverse don't really limit the coin in my view. There are plenty of full-blown 66 coins with worse, provided they have screaming luster. The cheek and obverse fields are VERY nice and this is exactly the sort of coin I was looking for while building my set.

    BTW, a Morgan with this exact look would live in a 66+ holder every day of the week. The graders are tough on this series.

  • CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭

    Second nice peace dolkar ive seen in the last few days. I like it as a 66.

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  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not very good at the grading game....but 65 sounds right and wow what a beautiful coin...makes my Peace Dollars look like spoils of war.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,316 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 28, 2017 2:46PM

    66, and probably + although that's getting way up there for a 35.
    If I saw this coin offered as a 65 I'd buy it without a moment of hesitation.
    Add:
    That's going to be a difficult coin to match for the rest of the set ;)

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice coin- especially the obverse. Nice purchase.

  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭

    <3

    Becky
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 28, 2017 4:19PM

    66+/65 ergo 65+ Mark on the front leg is too focally located
    However, If the reflectivity inside the marks are as toned to minimal reflectivity as it might appear, I could see it sliding into a 66 holder.

    Quite sweet :D

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  • USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it has a great look to it and I'd be proud to own it. If the true view is anything like how it looks in hand I'd like to see it as a 66.

  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,362 ✭✭✭

    She's a beaut!! She's gemmy but think in hand needed to assess luster and whether the reverse marks are masked a bit by the patina (they appear to be). Good thing she's in a slab as the risk of drooling on her is real.

  • SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭✭✭

    67 That's a really nice Peace dollar.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A very nice looking 65 or 66. I think it would have to be viewed in hand to make the final decision. I like the 1934 and 1935 dated Peace Dollars along with the 1921 High Relief ... but really no other regular issues.

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  • RexfordRexford Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 28, 2017 5:34PM

    @Yorkshireman said:
    The only photo I have of the coin is the TrueView, so please don't look it up until after you have recorded your opinion.

    You can go to images.pcgs.com/trueview/84642614 to download an image with a white background.

  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ultra wicked gem frosty is the grade I would assign. Very nice Peace buck, I'll wager 65+.

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  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,595 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "wow! that looks very frosty. 66?"

    that was my thought before reading any comments or looking it up. nice coin...good luck finding more

  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    WOW coin for sure. 65+

  • gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks 66 from what I see. Very pretty peace!

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,064 ✭✭✭✭✭

    amazingly clean obverse. really lovely. ?66

  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66

  • KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first impression was a 66; great looking peace dollar. I'd want one that looks like that.

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,587 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to tell from the pics re the luster factor. If subdued, I'll guess 65+ with the killer obverse.

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  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Peace Dollars can turn into an addiction. Don't ask! I'll go 66.

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  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 28, 2017 6:45PM

    Really nice obverse. I’ll guess 65 - reverse limited. What is up with the B in liberty. Is there some extra metal up there?

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  • aclocoacloco Posts: 952 ✭✭✭

    WOW! I like at 65+

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ms65. Front is nice pretty free of anything major. Reverse has some contact marks couple spots but look good

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  • air4mdcair4mdc Posts: 797 ✭✭✭✭

    Great look obverse.....
    I would say maybe 65+
    Maybe 65CAC

  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is one gorgeous Peace dollar!
    The clean and uniform luster and overall look far outweigh the very few little nicks on the reverse. My initial reaction was 66 or better, and I'm sticking to that.

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  • HadleydogHadleydog Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭

    What a gorgeous obverse. From the images I would guess 66 obverse, 65 reverse, 65+ net grade. Very nice! B)

  • KoveKove Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭✭

    66 obverse, 65 reverse. Should be a 65, but a 66 holder wouldn't shock me.

  • BruceSBruceS Posts: 1,350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 28, 2017 8:34PM

    65+ nice clean piece . Next GTG hide the Cert, I won't give it away but it's to easy to take a peak. I had to look after my quess.


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  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would pay 66 money for that coin and hope that it might upgrade to 66+. The marks on the leg would preclude 67, but the obverse looks 67. Gorgeous Peace Dollar.

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  • giorgio11giorgio11 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66 if the grader didn't get a tongue lashing from his wife the night before. 65+ if he was in a foul mood. "Loverly" Peace dollar Lee!

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  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin is in a 65 holder. The luster is somewhat subdued. That may be why. The obverse is breath taking in hand despite the low level of luster.
    I have seen 66's that don't look this nice. Some have suggested better luster might have gotten it a 66. While I love originality, in this case a dip might help.
    What do you think?

    Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Yorkshireman said:
    The coin is in a 65 holder. The luster is somewhat subdued. That may be why. The obverse is breath taking in hand despite the low level of luster.
    I have seen 66's that don't look this nice. Some have suggested better luster might have gotten it a 66. While I love originality, in this case a dip might help.
    What do you think?

    I don't see it in the picture, but if the coin is already low luster, then dipping it might be disastrous.

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh, please don't dip a coin like this. Just enjoy her for what she is. A dip can never increase luster, only decrease it. It can sometimes uncover hidden luster, but there's not enough toning here for that to be a possibility.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a real beauty.... clean, with luster... the reverse is hurting the grade - as TomB noted...65 is a good grade... with a better reverse that would be a 66, maybe 66+... Cheers, RickO

  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ok, no dipping.

    Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,316 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Yorkshireman said:
    The coin is in a 65 holder. The luster is somewhat subdued. That may be why. The obverse is breath taking in hand despite the low level of luster.
    I have seen 66's that don't look this nice. Some have suggested better luster might have gotten it a 66. While I love originality, in this case a dip might help.
    What do you think?

    On the 34-35 Peace Dollars the luster tends to be more satiny than earlier coins in the series. I agree with others, don't dip, it looks great.
    I'd be interested to see how it beans

    Collector, occasional seller

  • panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think is is really nice for a 65 and would also like to see how it goes at CAC. That cheek is really sweet.

  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    On the 34-35 Peace Dollars the luster tends to be more satiny than earlier coins in the series. I agree with others, don't dip, it looks great.
    I'd be interested to see how it beans

    Can't wait to see!!

    Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.

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