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I find these absolutely beautiful

crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 29, 2017 5:29PM in U.S. Coin Forum



In my opinion the mint has hit a home run with this design in ultra high relief. I find them extremely attractive.


The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,220 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks a little cartoonish to me, but has potential. These were not US mint, right?

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2017 5:44PM

    .

  • RB1026RB1026 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭✭

    Ok, I'll bite. What is it?

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,400 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 29, 2017 5:39PM

    That is one of my favorite classic designs.

    NHS indicates it might have been put out by the National Historic Site.

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I bought mine from the US mint.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,400 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is a link on these.

    http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/2016/04/john-mercanti-revives-20-dollar-designs.all.html#

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RB1026 said:
    Ok, I'll bite. What is it?

    Augustaus Saint-Gaudens Winged Liberty ultra high relief proof. Designed from Saint-Gaudens original plasters. Struck at the US mint

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 29, 2017 6:43PM

    @crazyhounddog said:
    I bought mine from the US mint.

    Are you sure?
    I see these medals for sale at GovMint.com (a private website)
    https://govmint.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Silver+Winged+Liberty
    but not at usmint.gov (the actual US Mint website).

  • RB1026RB1026 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭✭

    It looks incredible! According to the linked article above it says these were struck by the Royal Mint in Wales. However, you got yours from the US Mint? When were they available? VERY COOL medal!

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep I bought it from the mint. It's also in their catalog .

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a great looking medal but at $97 I think I will pass.

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 29, 2017 6:02PM

    @RB1026 said:
    It looks incredible! According to the linked article above it says these were struck by the Royal Mint in Wales. However, you got yours from the US Mint? When were they available? VERY COOL medal!

    Your right, my mistake, Wales. You can buy yourself one right now before they run out. I think only 10,000 minted in silver and 1000 minted in gold.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • RB1026RB1026 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭✭

    @crazyhounddog said:

    @RB1026 said:
    It looks incredible! According to the linked article above it says these were struck by the Royal Mint in Wales. However, you got yours from the US Mint? When were they available? VERY COOL medal!

    Your right, my mistake, Wales. You can buy yourself one right now before they run out. I think only 10,000 minted in silver and 1000 minted in gold.

    Ok, thanks for clearing that up. They are INCREDIBLE for sure. The execution of the design is stunning.

  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭

    Those are some seriously mirrored fields!

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  • NotSureNotSure Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭

    @morgandollar1878 said:
    That is a great looking medal but at $97 I think I will pass.

    $97?? I see $199, 2 CC payments of $99.50...

    I'll come up with something.
  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NotSure said:

    @morgandollar1878 said:
    That is a great looking medal but at $97 I think I will pass.

    $97?? I see $199, 2 CC payments of $99.50...

    Maybe I missed the 2 payments part. In that case I will pass two times. :D

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you buy them ungraded they're 97 bucks. This one is ungraded.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Shamika said:
    Those are some seriously mirrored fields!

    They're hit so hard they kinda have a shape of a bowl. Really pretty.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Joe, I love your Buff's.........but this is a pass for me.

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The link I originally posted was too restrictive, so I edited it to show all versions.
    Here is the $97 ungraded UHR version:
    https://govmint.com/2017-saint-gaudens-1-oz-silver-winged-liberty-ultra-high-relief-proof/

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you, yosclimber.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    LOVE

    m

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  • RB1026RB1026 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭✭

    Just FYI ...............Looks like they also are offering a "low relief" version in BU for under $30 for those who don't want to shell out for the high relief.

    I found this link -

    https://www.govmint.com/2017-saint-gaudens-1-oz-silver-winged-liberty-bu

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,400 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 29, 2017 7:52PM

    I'm considering the silver UHR. The gold UHR would be a treat.

    I'm glad they put together an all-star cast to make this including:

    • Engraving by John Mercanti, retired U.S. Mint Chief Engraver
    • Authorization by St. Gaudens National Historic Site

    Since this is issued by a National Historic Site, it looks like this could be considered an official US government issue.

    Private Mint News | 2010 Lincoln Reverse Finalists
  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the Roman numerals! I like that it's a St. Gaudens' design. I don't like Liberties' wings, they seem lopsided. I've also seen this at govmint.com but it's also a pass for me.

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To me Miss Liberty has never looked better. Ya gotta love the wings, right?

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 29, 2017 9:59PM

    I found this in a 2012 CoinTalk article regarding the original 1905 Saint-Gaudens plaster design:

    Looks like she had a shield in her left hand, and the date up top (instead of LIBERTY).
    https://cointalk.com/threads/saint-gaudens-cent-an-almost-coin.207568/

    P.S. I consider the URL "GovMint.com" to be a deceptive name, too similar to usmint.gov.

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @yosclimber said:
    I found this in a 2012 CoinTalk article regarding the original 1905 Saint-Gaudens plaster design:

    Looks like she had a shield in her left hand.
    https://cointalk.com/threads/saint-gaudens-cent-an-almost-coin.207568/

    P.S. I consider the URL "GovMint.com" to be a deceptive name, too similar to usmint.gov.

    Thank you for posting this. :)

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 29, 2017 9:10PM

    The GovMint rendition is similar to what ASG had previously envisioned for the double eagle. I travel to the ASGNHS quite often and have taken thousands of images of the works on display. Something I typically take images of is the handwritten notes of ASG as my daughters are always amazed at how my handwriting and sketches are so similar to the style of ASG. Here are images of an early plaster mock-up of the double eagle with notes-

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

    image
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not seeing the images I posted; are they visible for others?

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

    image
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 29, 2017 9:14PM

    @TomB said:
    I'm not seeing the images I posted; are they visible for others?

    I see them. Looks great too. Superb sketches all the way.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,400 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 29, 2017 11:48PM

    Would love to see a version with the shield Dan!

    Also good to mention the other versions. Here's one done in 2002 by Liberia along with the gold Mercanti UHR.


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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,095 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting pieces, thanks for posting this thread :smile:

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They are beautiful medals.... both the silver and the gold. Cheers, RickO

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,587 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is interesting the note the little headdress on Ms. Liberty which fortunately disappeared on the final design. That was per Theodore Roosevelt’s wishes that a headdress be included in the designs.

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  • WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Anyone care to elaborate what the benefit of sketching in plaster creates? I'm lost on that part of the process.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,400 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 8, 2017 12:36AM

    Here's the GovMint COA:

    Private Mint News | 2010 Lincoln Reverse Finalists
  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,609 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They are attractive.

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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2018 5:41PM

    I was looking at pictures of these again the other day. The marketing materials and the Coin World article indicate that the GovMint version was sculpted by former US Mint Chief Engraver John Mercanti. But looking at the photo (below) this sculpting just doesn't look like it meets Mercanti standards (especially Liberty's body), so I have my doubts about who actually sculpted it.

    I think I like the Liberia version better, although neither one really captures what the Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle would have been like if the wings were retained.

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I still find it incredibly beautiful. But I’d also like to see some more versions of winged liberty. Great design in my book.
    Maybe you should do one, Dan :)

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @crazyhounddog said:

    @RB1026 said:
    Ok, I'll bite. What is it?

    Augustaus Saint-Gaudens Winged Liberty ultra high relief proof. Designed from Saint-Gaudens original plasters. Struck at the US mint

    I had no idea these even existed as a Mint product.

    Pete

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes and they did sell out pretty rapidly, Pete.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have both silver and gold. Love em

    Best place to buy !
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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kkathyl said:
    I have both silver and gold. Love em

    Whoa!! Your one lucky lady. All I have are two silver ones :(

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @crazyhounddog I have seen your coin porn you have plenty of beauty’s

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kkathyl said:
    @crazyhounddog I have seen your coin porn you have plenty of beauty’s

    Thank you for the kind words but I don’t have a gold winged Liberty :|

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In two years it will be covered with milk spots.

    GrandAm :)
  • Mission16Mission16 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭

    @BuffaloIronTail said:

    @crazyhounddog said:

    @RB1026 said:
    Ok, I'll bite. What is it?

    Augustaus Saint-Gaudens Winged Liberty ultra high relief proof. Designed from Saint-Gaudens original plasters. Struck at the US mint

    I had no idea these even existed as a Mint product.

    Pete

    Yeah, I am a bit confused myself.

    Someone please clarify: These are absolutly NOT a United States Mint product, correct?

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