Untoned Stripe Toners

ZoinsZoins Posts: 19,415 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 17, 2019 12:34AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Here are a few from a single collection I just ran across. Any idea what would cause the untoned stripe? A thick rubber band?

The collection was slabbed at the same time and look like they range from 84032002 to 84032012.

Here's another that has a similar but different look:

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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭

    Tape/Ribbon/Strap/Band ...something that was used to hold them in place in a holder, possibly for display. It could be that they were even in the same style holder together, especially because of the similar color toning and untoned section.

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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 24,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First 3 were almost certainly a tab holder.
    I don't have a picture, but there were pics posted years ago (8-12 years ago or so, most likely).

    Question, and pics like you posted, came up a few times back then.

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  • CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2017 5:42AM

    Here are two that I used to own. I got them at an antique mall. The woman selling them told me that her grandfather had given her for her 21st birthday a plaque that was covered with velvet and he had 21 Morgans taped to the velvet spelling out the number "21". I grabbed a few of the nicer ones. Most had gone to a terminal black tone. I have experiences that velvet will cause some crazy and somewhat quick toning. The untoned portions of the coin are where the tape was used on the coin. It basically prevents the contaminants in the velvet thus cause portions of the coin not to tone.

  • rickoricko Posts: 67,868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tab holders or tape will product that pattern on coins. As mentioned, they likely were all kept in the same storage method due to similar tarnish. Cheers, RickO

  • chumleychumley Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭✭

    masking tape is my guess

  • TomBTomB Posts: 15,445 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tab holders will give a similar effect, but to have such sharp and uniform lines makes me think these were not in such holders. Also, I just don't like that color blue on such a range of coins with these lines. Apparently, PCGS thinks they are A-OK, but that doesn't mean I would buy them or accept them.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 19,415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    Tab holders will give a similar effect, but to have such sharp and uniform lines makes me think these were not in such holders. Also, I just don't like that color blue on such a range of coins with these lines. Apparently, PCGS thinks they are A-OK, but that doesn't mean I would buy them or accept them.

    Actually, PCGS graded all 11 coins 91 Questionable Color.

  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Blind VAMmer
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 11,580 ✭✭✭✭✭

    let my opinion go in one ear and ...

    I agree w/PCGS on these. The "doctors" came up with the O'l "Tape across coin" look. I don't wish to help them perfect the alteration so I'll just say "removed tape toning" does not look like this.

    BTW, rubber band toning of any reasonable amount of time to react, etches the surface.

  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And this one is an actual scotch tape toner...


    The Blind VAMmer
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 11,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2017 10:04AM

    Nice example. Looks like the GLUE RESIDUE left inside the coin's recesses helps to confirm the originality!

    EDIT:

    PS I'd like a closer look at the NGC dollars just posted also...

  • TomBTomB Posts: 15,445 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @TomB said:
    Tab holders will give a similar effect, but to have such sharp and uniform lines makes me think these were not in such holders. Also, I just don't like that color blue on such a range of coins with these lines. Apparently, PCGS thinks they are A-OK, but that doesn't mean I would buy them or accept them.

    Actually, PCGS graded all 11 coins 91 Questionable Color.

    I feel better about PCGS now that I know they were kicked out as QC91.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

    image
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 19,415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Old Thread Update

    Just ran across the following PCGS MS64:

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