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JVCJVC Posts: 25 ✭✭
edited July 1, 2017 11:51AM in U.S. Coin Forum

All six coins were submitted to CAC. Can you guess which ones passed?





James V. Culbertson

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    CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The one with the twenty wrapped around it with a rubber band?

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1900-S and the 1886-S

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    tommy44tommy44 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1900-S and 1893

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 30, 2017 1:40PM

    @tradedollarnut said:
    The 1900-S and the 1886-S

    And also the 85-cc. (yes for 1, 3, 5).

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    georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭

    all

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,481 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 30, 2017 2:17PM

    1885-CC - Yes
    1880-S - No - Very common date, too many roller marks and marks in general.
    1900-S - Yes - I changed this because of a mix up.
    1890-S - No - Too much clatter in the fields.
    1886-S - No - The fields look cloudy
    1893-P - Yes - Really nice MS-64.

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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All of them. If John called the 1893 PVC, I would not be surprised but I hope not.

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    AngryTurtleAngryTurtle Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭

    Y
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    Y
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    N
    Y-Gold

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    Peace_dollar88Peace_dollar88 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Y
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    Y
    Y
    Y

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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AngryTurtle said:
    Y
    N
    Y
    N
    N
    Y-Gold

    Since there are no 1893 Gold CAC coins in the pop report, it might be tough to win this one! :)

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    slider23slider23 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 30, 2017 2:24PM

    Y
    N
    Y
    N
    Y
    Y

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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1
    3
    6

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    1885-CC - Yes
    1880-S - No - Very common date, too many roller marks and marks in general.
    1900-S - No - darn nice coin, but I don't see a DPL in that picture.
    1890-S - No - Too much clatter in the fields.
    1886-S - No - The fields look cloudy
    1893-P - Yes - Really nice MS-64.

    DPL?

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Correct, but the 1900-S has no designation

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    10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    Just the 1900-s

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 30, 2017 2:24PM

    @Coinstartled said:
    The one with the twenty wrapped around it with a rubber band?

    $20? $20? You're kidding of course. $^^^

    I've never tried CAC. Lucky for you guys cause I should have posted five coins that DID NOT make it and ask which ones did. Then sit back and watched the fun. :smiley:

    I'll pick the 85-CC, 1900-S, and 1893 received the bean.

    EDIT: Just noticed the 85-CC is graded PL. While it is a 65, I don't know if it is "PL enough."

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    10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    The pics are confusing, because the grade is below the date and makes it appear like the grade belongs to the coin pictured below it.

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    CCDollarCCDollar Posts: 717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @slider23 said:
    Y
    N
    Y
    N
    Y
    Y

    Ditto...

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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think all but one passed. I don't think the 1880-S passed, based on the images, too much chatter and possibly the reverse was not deep enough.

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    CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:

    @Coinstartled said:
    The one with the twenty wrapped around it with a rubber band?

    $20? $20? You're kidding of course. $^^^

    I've never tried CAC. Lucky for you guys cause I should have posted five coins that DID NOT make it and ask which ones did. Then sit back and watched the fun. :smiley:

    I'll pick the 85-CC, 1900-S, and 1893 received the bean.

    EDIT: Just noticed the 85-CC is graded PL. While it is a 65, I don't know if it is "PL enough."

    Does it have to be PL enough? Doesn't JA overlook the mirror designation?

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    joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    gold
    no
    yes
    yes
    gold
    no

    may the fonz be with you...always...
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said:

    @Insider2 said:

    @Coinstartled said:
    The one with the twenty wrapped around it with a rubber band?

    $20? $20? You're kidding of course. $^^^

    I've never tried CAC. Lucky for you guys cause I should have posted five coins that DID NOT make it and ask which ones did. Then sit back and watched the fun. :smiley:

    I'll pick the 85-CC, 1900-S, and 1893 received the bean.

    EDIT: Just noticed the 85-CC is graded PL. While it is a 65, I don't know if it is "PL enough."

    Does it have to be PL enough? Doesn't JA overlook the mirror designation?

    Heck no he doesn't overlook that

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    BigMooseBigMoose Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭

    Y
    N
    Y
    N
    Y
    Y

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    cnncoinscnncoins Posts: 414 ✭✭✭✭

    1885-CC
    1900-S
    1886-S

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    david3142david3142 Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 30, 2017 4:51PM

    I agree with @jtlee321. I think all but the 80-S passed.

    Very nice group!

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said: "Does it have to be PL enough? Doesn't JA overlook the mirror designation?"

    Heck if I know, I've never used CAC or bought one of their coins.

    When do we get the answer, I want to see how badly I guessed. :(

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    AngryTurtleAngryTurtle Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭

    @Wabbit2313 said:

    @AngryTurtle said:
    Y
    N
    Y
    N
    N
    Y-Gold

    Since there are no 1893 Gold CAC coins in the pop report, it might be tough to win this one! :)

    Yes, I could research the dates pop reports a bit before answering, but I have been purposly not looking, and going with my call. When i dont look, I miss things like this, and also unless I know them, dates that have low pop tops.

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    TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 30, 2017 6:04PM

    @CCDollar said:

    @slider23 said:
    Y
    N
    Y
    N
    Y
    Y

    Ditto...

    Y
    N
    Y
    N
    Y
    Y

    This

    Tom

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    ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,417 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The lines at a 45 degree angle on the cheek, which you can only see if you get really close to your computer because the image is over exposed, appear to be roller lines from when the coin was made at the mint. I don't know CAC would feel about that, even though they don't affect the coin's grade.

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    KoveKove Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭✭

    Y
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    Y
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    Y
    Y

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    panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 30, 2017 7:31PM

    @jtlee321 said:
    I think all but one passed. I don't think the 1880-S passed, based on the images, too much chatter and possibly the reverse was not deep enough.

    This would be my guess too. I think the others all look like at least B coins for the grade.

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    coinhackcoinhack Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭✭

    1
    3
    5
    6 should all pass.

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    SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1 3 6

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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Only #2 is Not CAC. The other 5 pieces all look like green beans to me.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,481 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @BillJones said:
    1885-CC - Yes
    1880-S - No - Very common date, too many roller marks and marks in general.
    1900-S - No - darn nice coin, but I don't see a DPL in that picture.
    1890-S - No - Too much clatter in the fields.
    1886-S - No - The fields look cloudy
    1893-P - Yes - Really nice MS-64.

    DPL?

    You are correct. I mixed up the DPL with the 1881-S. I

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    rkfishrkfish Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭

    1, 3, 5, and maybe 6

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1890, 1893, 1900.... Cheers, RickO

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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 1, 2017 9:10AM

    @Wabbit2313 said:
    All of them. If John called the 1893 PVC, I would not be surprised but I hope not.

    The 1893 looks clean enough to be a 65, yet was only graded 64+. It seems to have a fuzzy and sanitized look to the color and luster. If that's netted to 64+ due to something not quite right, that's a reason to not get the CAC, even if no + sign. Just a guess. It sure is clean for a 64.

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    JVCJVC Posts: 25 ✭✭

    Thanks to all who participated in this post and a shout out to Todd Pollock of BluCCPhotos who provided the photos.
    When I submitted these coins to CAC, I felt that all were average or above average for the grade and that several were a lock to pass.

    1885-CC MS 65 PL--No
    1880-S MS 65 DMPL--Yes
    1900-S MS 65--No
    1890-S MS 65--No
    1886-S MS 64+--Yes
    1893 MS 64--Yes

    I was surprised by the results of the 1885-CC, 1880-S, and the 1900-S. The 1885-CC is a lovely coin with great contrast between the devices and fields. I talked with John Albanese about this coin and he felt that someone had intentionally damaged the coin on the obverse above the second star next to the right of 1885. This is still one of my favorite coins in my collection. The 1880-S passed, but it has average mirrors and too many dings for me. The 1900-S has few marks and a satiny finish and I felt sure this was a lock to pass. John felt this coin needed more luster to pass.

    James V. Culbertson
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    10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    It tough to judge based on a photo, also the results make a strong argument to submit every coin because you will end up with more that passed and not the ones that you expected.

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    joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I went 1/6 through pictures.
    Ill stick to my in hand grading skills where I bat significantly higher...

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,536 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All passed except the 1880-S.

    Lovely dollars you have there my friend.

    bob:)

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