It is interesting how the octabonal $50 gold still grabs more collector interest than the round piece despite the fact that it is not as scarce and has a lower catalog value. The same thing was true, of course, back in the day where more of them were sold.
Here are close-ups of each piece. The round $50 piece is nicer despite the fact that it was graded by NGC and is in the "dreaded" white holder.
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@BillJones said:
It is interesting how the octabonal $50 gold still grabs more collector interest than the round piece despite the fact that it is not as scarce and has a lower catalog value. The same thing was true, of course, back in the day where more of them were sold.
Here are close-ups of each piece. The round $50 piece is nicer despite the fact that it was graded by NGC and is in the "dreaded" white holder.
I think part of the attraction for the Octagonal is that it was the plate coin on the cover of certain prominent numismatic publication(s). Also the fact that it replicated the slugs from California gold rush era added to its desirability.
I know those were both considerations for me. I opted only for the Octagonal of the two, along with the smaller Pan-Pac pieces.
Building on what @northcoin said, I think the octagonal is more interesting to more collectors because it is different. It is the only octagonal coin issued by the US and thus is different. The fact it is similar to the gold rush slugs and has dolphins can only help.
@aus3000tin said:
Can someone post the pic of the copper frame?
Just curious what it looks like and how it stood next to the gold & silver coins.
Thanks,
Chris
Here one is. Heritage sold this one for $4,112.50 in April 2013. Anthony Swiatek reported that he has seen a counterfeit of this piece with a fake top ribbon and inferior workmanship with regards to the copper. This item was made by Shreve & Co.
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It is interesting how the octabonal $50 gold still grabs more collector interest than the round piece despite the fact that it is not as scarce and has a lower catalog value. The same thing was true, of course, back in the day where more of them were sold.
Here are close-ups of each piece. The round $50 piece is nicer despite the fact that it was graded by NGC and is in the "dreaded" white holder.
Interesting, and thanks for posting. I didn't realize there were so many variations of the boxes. Great add-on to a set (to have a box.)
I think I sold my box for $800, but that was 8-10 years ago. It was in decent shape and the hinges were good (as I recall).
Lovely set. Just have someone who is good at Photoshop to put them in the box for you.
Truly a remarkable set.
In the 80's a dealer-friend had a complete in copper set. Out of my price range at something like 80-90K
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Nice to take a look at. Thanks
Congrats on finding the box. Had no idea it would be that expensive. Beautiful coins! Your collection never ceases to amaze me.
I think part of the attraction for the Octagonal is that it was the plate coin on the cover of certain prominent numismatic publication(s). Also the fact that it replicated the slugs from California gold rush era added to its desirability.
I know those were both considerations for me. I opted only for the Octagonal of the two, along with the smaller Pan-Pac pieces.
Incredible. Thanks for the thread Billjones! Staggering to consider.
Building on what @northcoin said, I think the octagonal is more interesting to more collectors because it is different. It is the only octagonal coin issued by the US and thus is different. The fact it is similar to the gold rush slugs and has dolphins can only help.
Very nice sets and accompanying display boxes, thanks for sharing
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Wow! What a fantastic set. Congratulations.
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Wow very nice and thanks for sharing.
Just a little side note, many years ago I saw a complete set in the box for about $27,000.
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Congrats on finding a box!. beautiful set!!
Can someone post the pic of the copper frame?
Just curious what it looks like and how it stood next to the gold & silver coins.
Thanks,
Chris
Here one is. Heritage sold this one for $4,112.50 in April 2013. Anthony Swiatek reported that he has seen a counterfeit of this piece with a fake top ribbon and inferior workmanship with regards to the copper. This item was made by Shreve & Co.
Yup!
2 for 1.
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Very nice sets and accompanying display boxes, thanks for sharing
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That's really beautiful.
Both of these sets are.......