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Possible U.S. Mint Experimental 1943 Copper Coated Steel Cent - An eBay find!

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Try your local library or "WorldCat.org" for interlibrary loan (ILL).

  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now I see how the fingerprints got on it. Learn how to properly hold coins.

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,167 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coindeuce said:
    Likewise. I'd like some more background on a 1943 Steel Experimental Cent. Pull that out of a hat ? Maybe a Breen brainchild ?

    No. Breen would have called it the last of the matte proof coinage.

  • Were there only errors found in 1943?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,248 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Deannalea1976 said:
    Were there only errors found in 1943?

    The only year there were steel cents was 1943.

  • Experimental Lincoln cents. Not the steel cents.
    Are there any other experimental Lincoln cents from 1942 or 1943?

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Deannalea - If you want to learn about various WW-II era coin experiments, borrow a copy of United States Pattern and Experimental Pieces of WW-II from the ANA Library or your local Library via ILL. There is a table of experimental pieces plus a detailed list of pieces made by date of test.

  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Two plus years since the initial claim, and nothing of substance. RIP.

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  • rte592rte592 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Experiments yes...US mint no.

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just throwing this out there.

    “United States Patterns & Experimental Pieces of WW-II” is a good book if your posting to this thread looking for information about 1943 steel and/or copper coins.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @boyernumismatics said:

    @RogerB said:
    What is it you think you have?

    One of the experimental 1943 copper coated steel cents. I put that in the title :)

    Did you get it back yet? or decide not to send?

  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:

    @boyernumismatics said:

    @RogerB said:
    What is it you think you have?

    One of the experimental 1943 copper coated steel cents. I put that in the title :)

    Did you get it back yet? or decide not to send?

    .
    Who are you talking to? :smile:

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,596 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I remember that nonsense. I can't believe it's been five years. :o

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,248 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HelloIamKitty said:
    I have found a 1942 Steel Lincoln cent in my penny collection how do I find out if it is real or compromise....

    Start by weighing it. 99.999% chance that it is plated.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HelloIamKitty said:
    I have found a 1942 Steel Lincoln cent in my penny collection how do I find out if it is real or compromise....

    Welcome. Go to pg 1 and read all the posts. It will give you a fair idea about your coin.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HelloIamKitty .... Welcome aboard. Most likely you have a post mint plated copper cent.....Weigh it, post pictures here....Cheers, RickO

  • 23Vasquez2323Vasquez23 Posts: 114 ✭✭

    1943 steel bronze experimental 1c found

  • 23Vasquez2323Vasquez23 Posts: 114 ✭✭

    1943 steel experimental 1C found

  • 23Vasquez2323Vasquez23 Posts: 114 ✭✭

    Coin does weigh 2.7 grams and is magnetic.

  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here we go again. Is it Friday?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,248 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @23Vasquez23 said:
    Coin does weigh 2.7 grams and is magnetic.

    Send it in.

  • Married2CoinsMarried2Coins Posts: 582 ✭✭✭

    @boyernumismatics said:

    @coindeuce said:
    Likewise. I'd like some more background on a 1943 Steel Experimental Cent. Pull that out of a hat ?

    No, I did not "Pull that out of a hat." Here, I'll post you a few resources:

    mikebyers.com/unique-1943-cent-13-piece-set.html

    https://coins.ha.com/itm/patterns/five-piece-1943-experimental-cent-collection-ngc-total-5-pieces-/a/1136-2382.s

    and so on.

    If there are blank planchets, is it unreasonable to believe some were also struck? Just a thought.

    But then it would NOT BE "copper coated steel!!"

  • Married2CoinsMarried2Coins Posts: 582 ✭✭✭

    Oops! I got tricked by an old thread.

  • 23Vasquez2323Vasquez23 Posts: 114 ✭✭

    NGC graded a coin like this a few years back

  • 23Vasquez2323Vasquez23 Posts: 114 ✭✭

    Supposedly there’s only been one graded though. If it’s not copper coated steel then what is it then? Just asking

  • lcutlerlcutler Posts: 553 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 17, 2024 12:06AM

    You ask, get correct answers and don't believe them, then argue and insult people so there is no point. Spend the money and have it authenticated.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,248 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lcutler said:
    You ask, get correct answers and don't believe them, then argue and insult people so there is no point. Spend the money and have it authenticated.

    When did he insult people?

  • lcutlerlcutler Posts: 553 ✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @lcutler said:
    You ask, get correct answers and don't believe them, then argue and insult people so there is no point. Spend the money and have it authenticated.

    When did he insult people?

    On the NGC forum he posted this coin with a complete misunderstanding of the rare bronze cent. I explained to him about the bronze planchet struck in error and he responded by laughing and telling me I know nothing about coins. He responded similarly to other members. This coin was supposedly at NGC getting authenticated but there were no updates on the outcome.

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lcutler said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @lcutler said:
    You ask, get correct answers and don't believe them, then argue and insult people so there is no point. Spend the money and have it authenticated.

    When did he insult people?

    On the NGC forum he posted this coin with a complete misunderstanding of the rare bronze cent. I explained to him about the bronze planchet struck in error and he responded by laughing and telling me I know nothing about coins. He responded similarly to other members. This coin was supposedly at NGC getting authenticated but there were no updates on the outcome.

  • ByersByers Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 19, 2024 11:30AM

    @Married2Coins said:

    @boyernumismatics said:

    @coindeuce said:
    Likewise. I'd like some more background on a 1943 Steel Experimental Cent. Pull that out of a hat ?

    No, I did not "Pull that out of a hat." Here, I'll post you a few resources:

    mikebyers.com/unique-1943-cent-13-piece-set.html

    https://coins.ha.com/itm/patterns/five-piece-1943-experimental-cent-collection-ngc-total-5-pieces-/a/1136-2382.s

    and so on.

    If there are blank planchets, is it unreasonable to believe some were also struck? Just a thought.

    But then it would NOT BE "copper coated steel!!"

    https://mikebyers.com/unique-1943-cent-5-piece-set.html

    I handled 2 of the 4 sets known.

    The experimental 1943 Lincoln cent was struck in steel but was coated with a combination of 90% zinc, 4% antimony and 6% iron.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,305 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lcutler said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @lcutler said:
    You ask, get correct answers and don't believe them, then argue and insult people so there is no point. Spend the money and have it authenticated.

    When did he insult people?

    On the NGC forum he posted this coin with a complete misunderstanding of the rare bronze cent. I explained to him about the bronze planchet struck in error and he responded by laughing and telling me I know nothing about coins. He responded similarly to other members. This coin was supposedly at NGC getting authenticated but there were no updates on the outcome.

    In addition to being rude to many of the NGC forum members, he posted other extraordinary claims on the NGC forum, one about having 64 SMS Kennedys and something else that I don't recall without searching.

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  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,582 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lcutler said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @lcutler said:
    You ask, get correct answers and don't believe them, then argue and insult people so there is no point. Spend the money and have it authenticated.

    When did he insult people?

    On the NGC forum he posted this coin with a complete misunderstanding of the rare bronze cent. I explained to him about the bronze planchet struck in error and he responded by laughing and telling me I know nothing about coins. He responded similarly to other members. This coin was supposedly at NGC getting authenticated but there were no updates on the outcome.

    Not surprised. Solid expertise gained through years of experience means little these days.

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  • 23Vasquez2323Vasquez23 Posts: 114 ✭✭

  • 23Vasquez2323Vasquez23 Posts: 114 ✭✭

  • 23Vasquez2323Vasquez23 Posts: 114 ✭✭

    Got results of my 1943 steel copper 1c coin.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,248 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 17, 2024 12:18PM

    @23Vasquez23 said:
    Got results of my 1943 steel copper 1c coin.

    Actually, your results show that it is not a steel copper coin.

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @23Vasquez23 said:
    Got results of my 1943 steel copper 1c coin.

  • 23Vasquez2323Vasquez23 Posts: 114 ✭✭

    Was never assisted with any information or recommendations of what I should’ve done but instead just laughed and joked about the coin I was trying to submit saying is was valuable. Figured I’d get results to get proof of what kind of coin I really had.

  • lermishlermish Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @23Vasquez23 said:
    Got results of my 1943 steel copper 1c coin.

    Actually, your results show that it is not a steel copper coin.

    Doesn't he get credit for being 0.39% right about the copper?

  • lcutlerlcutler Posts: 553 ✭✭✭✭

    What did NGC have to say about it? You surely have it back in hand by now.

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • 23Vasquez2323Vasquez23 Posts: 114 ✭✭

    Haven’t resubmitted the coin because I just now got results but was my mistake for now requesting a the coin to be tested.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,092 ✭✭✭✭✭

    good on you for coming back
    good on you for saying it was denied

    when you get your resubmission back it will be denied again. the fact that the coin is iron(steel) with the next major metal as zinc should tell you it is a very discolored yet common 1943 steel cent.

    it says 1% manganese too. you're not claiming it's manganese plated. what about the silver? see where I'm going?

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  • lcutlerlcutler Posts: 553 ✭✭✭✭

    Your test results show that you have a normal steel cent. The traces of copper, silver and manganese most likely surface contamination from contact with other coins in circulation. All three metals were in circulating coinage contemporary with the steel cent. Test other circulated steel cents and you will get similar results.

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The plot thickens

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,596 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OP is showing conflicting/different metallurgical reports. I guess we can pick the one we like. :*

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