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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What a freaking mess!

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @abcde12345 said:
    I hope he or his family don't read this thread as it is getting pretty mean.

    I'm guessing, unless the CU mods haven't seen this thread which I doubt, they are letting it continue as a warning for members who may not know what's been happening to not do any future business with him

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  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭

    You forgot the Paul Harvey "and now, the rest of the story."

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Only one person to blame for the mess.

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 29, 2017 2:09PM

    Why punish the innocent? Plus, we don't have the full story. I just noticed I got my first negative. That's ok, I gave him a positive as i don't like to be punitive just because I may disagree with him.

  • oldstandardoldstandard Posts: 387 ✭✭✭
    edited January 29, 2017 5:03PM

    @ldhair said:
    I'm starting to wonder if Shane is actually still running the ebay auctions and if he is still living. There is more to this than we know.

    He did respond to me a few weeks ago, It will be one year next month since he auctioned my coins off. My question was" Shane could I get an update on where you are at in paying me back his reply was he is not in any position to pay but hopes for a better year.

  • oldstandardoldstandard Posts: 387 ✭✭✭
    edited January 29, 2017 4:58PM

    @bolivarshagnasty said:
    Seems like there are still a lot of raw nerves on this subject.

    "anyone care to help??"

    Don't think so Scooter. :o

    Rule 3) Anyone attacking another poster or making disparaging personal remarks will no longer be allowed to post. No more warnings.

    No one is attacking anyone but they are protecting people from future losses I wish more truth had been stated here before I would of saved thousands.

  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭

    @oldstandard said:

    @ldhair said:
    I'm starting to wonder if Shane is actually still running the ebay auctions and if he is still living. There is more to this than we know.

    He did respond to me a few weeks ago, It will be one year next month since he auctioned my coins off. My question was" Shane could I get an update on where you are at in paying me back he reply was he his not in any position to pay but hopes for a better year.

    Hey old standard I'm glad Shane did give you an update and let you know whats going on. Lets hope he can pay everyone off one day

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  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭

    @abcde12345 said:
    Why punish the innocent? Plus, we don't have the full story

    The full story:

    Many people have been victims of theft.

    What else do you need?

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  • oldstandardoldstandard Posts: 387 ✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    The longer he goes without paying the less likely he will feel obligated to pay back folks. Human nature.

    mark

    I feel that is what he is doing and also hoping people that he owes will just move on he is in to deep. what he is doing is illegal and it will catch up sooner or later. I hope I am wrong but you can not take peoples stuff sell it knowing you are not going to pay them, People will eventually take action against him.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 29, 2017 6:16PM

    @oldstandard said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    The longer he goes without paying the less likely he will feel obligated to pay back folks. Human nature.

    mark

    I feel that is what he is doing and also hoping people that he owes will just move on he is in to deep. what he is doing is illegal and it will catch up sooner or later. I hope I am wrong but you can not take peoples stuff sell it knowing you are not going to pay them, People will eventually take action against him.

    True. After awhile the victim gets used to being taken and internally writes it off as it's painful to continue to rehash it. He gets used to not having the funds.

    The perpetrator in this case also gets used to the idea of not having to payback the victim. The perp gets used to keeping the funds

    mark

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 29, 2017 5:43PM

    @Justacommeman said:

    @oldstandard said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    The longer he goes without paying the less likely he will feel obligated to pay back folks. Human nature.

    mark

    I feel that is what he is doing and also hoping people that he owes will just move on he is in to deep. what he is doing is illegal and it will catch up sooner or later. I hope I am wrong but you can not take peoples stuff sell it knowing you are not going to pay them, People will eventually take action against him.

    True. After awhile the victim gets used to being taken and internally writes it off as it's painful.

    The perpetrator in this case also gets used to the idea of not having to payback the victim.

    mark

    This is part of why I mentioned someone should take him to court to recover their losses. It may be painful for both parties, but ultimately it may set things on a better course faster for everyone.

    If it goes on too long and the aggregate losses are too great, the outcome will be worse.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @Justacommeman said:

    @oldstandard said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    The longer he goes without paying the less likely he will feel obligated to pay back folks. Human nature.

    mark

    I feel that is what he is doing and also hoping people that he owes will just move on he is in to deep. what he is doing is illegal and it will catch up sooner or later. I hope I am wrong but you can not take peoples stuff sell it knowing you are not going to pay them, People will eventually take action against him.

    True. After awhile the victim gets used to being taken and internally writes it off as it's painful.

    The perpetrator in this case also gets used to the idea of not having to payback the victim.

    mark

    This is part of why I mentioned someone should take him to court to recover their losses. It may be painful for both parties, but ultimately it may set things on a better course faster for everyone.

    If it goes on too long and the aggregate losses are too great, the outcome will be worse.

    Indeed.

    mark

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  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭

    It HAS been going on too long!
    He is a crook!
    No one should be doing business with him now.
    Those ripped off and still are owed payment should take legal action.
    If he was a good guy years ago he certainly is a scumbag now.
    My 2 cents.

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  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It has been going on too long. The longer it goes on, the more people get taken advantage of. If it had happened to me, I would have taken legal action by now. Someone needs to.

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From the looks of his E-Bay store he's not selling coins and he's spent every cent he has on baseball/football cards.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,339 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oldstandard said:

    @ldhair said:
    I'm starting to wonder if Shane is actually still running the ebay auctions and if he is still living. There is more to this than we know.

    He did respond to me a few weeks ago, It will be one year next month since he auctioned my coins off. My question was" Shane could I get an update on where you are at in paying me back his reply was he is not in any position to pay but hopes for a better year.

    Thanks. I'm glad he made contact with someone.

    Larry

  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oldstandard said:

    @bolivarshagnasty said:
    Seems like there are still a lot of raw nerves on this subject.

    "anyone care to help??"

    Don't think so Scooter. :o

    Rule 3) Anyone attacking another poster or making disparaging personal remarks will no longer be allowed to post. No more warnings.

    No one is attacking anyone but they are protecting people from future losses I wish more truth had been stated here before I would of saved thousands.

    You plus about 4 others would have saved thousands but for some reason bolivarshagnasty thinks being nice is more important then getting the truth out. I don't get why bolivarshagnasty would even post that.

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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cakes said:

    @oldstandard said:

    @bolivarshagnasty said:
    Seems like there are still a lot of raw nerves on this subject.

    "anyone care to help??"

    Don't think so Scooter. :o

    Rule 3) Anyone attacking another poster or making disparaging personal remarks will no longer be allowed to post. No more warnings.

    No one is attacking anyone but they are protecting people from future losses I wish more truth had been stated here before I would of saved thousands.

    You plus about 4 others would have saved thousands but for some reason bolivarshagnasty thinks being nice is more important then getting the truth out. I don't get why bolivarshagnasty would even post that.

    My post was directed at keets. Did you read the entire thread? keets was wanting help in bashing another forum member mach1ne. keets was wanting help in describing what mach1ne had done. Nothing earth shattering here. On record NOT sympathetic toward Krypto and agree that someone should use the legal system against him.

  • BigDowgieBigDowgie Posts: 1,779 ✭✭✭✭

    Ok crew, this post has grown beyond its intended purpose. You all shared some information, which is greatly appreciated. Let's cut this one off, please.

    Thanks

  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bolivarshagnasty said:

    @Cakes said:

    @oldstandard said:

    @bolivarshagnasty said:
    Seems like there are still a lot of raw nerves on this subject.

    "anyone care to help??"

    Don't think so Scooter. :o

    Rule 3) Anyone attacking another poster or making disparaging personal remarks will no longer be allowed to post. No more warnings.

    No one is attacking anyone but they are protecting people from future losses I wish more truth had been stated here before I would of saved thousands.

    You plus about 4 others would have saved thousands but for some reason bolivarshagnasty thinks being nice is more important then getting the truth out. I don't get why bolivarshagnasty would even post that.

    My post was directed at keets. Did you read the entire thread? keets was wanting help in bashing another forum member mach1ne. keets was wanting help in describing what mach1ne had done. Nothing earth shattering here. On record NOT sympathetic toward Krypto and agree that someone should use the legal system against him.

    I had read the entire thread, I just didn't think what Keets had done was so bad. Mach1ne can stand up for himself if he took offence.

    I am not trying to start a war or flame it just upset me to see another thread on this subject when the previous ones keep being deleted because they had been deemed offensive. If the mods delete this one over the minor comment Keets made many more people will get suckered down the road.

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  • gemtone65gemtone65 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭

    I haven't done business with Shane recently, but I did purchase some very nice coins from him without any trouble a few years ago. Here's one of them, an 1883-cc Morgan in a PCGS MS65 holder:

  • oldstandardoldstandard Posts: 387 ✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2017 10:56AM

    purchasing does not seem to be the problem

  • MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cakes said:
    Mach1ne can stand up for himself if he took offence.

    I take offence to nothing. :p

    The reason why I haven't taken him to court is because the cost of doing so outweighs what I would recover. But some emails have been going around about a class action lawsuit. And I know law enforcement is getting involved. I would even settle with less than what he owes me, but he's such a cretin he hasn't even reached out to me once.

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,993 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Solutions for Shane would involve contacting all he owes money to with periodic updates on when he will pay them back. If he has little in the way of income he should do everything he can to offer his services so he will be able to pay back those he owes. When a guy who owed me became unresponsive that was the time to contact law enforcement.

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gemtone, that coin is SWEET!

  • oldstandardoldstandard Posts: 387 ✭✭✭

    @mach1ne said:

    @Cakes said:
    Mach1ne can stand up for himself if he took offence.

    I take offence to nothing. :p

    The reason why I haven't taken him to court is because the cost of doing so outweighs what I would recover. But some emails have been going around about a class action lawsuit. And I know law enforcement is getting involved. I would even settle with less than what he owes me, but he's such a cretin he hasn't even reached out to me once.

    This is the same reason for me also if I live there different story. When he blocked me on ebay I was mad I was trying to contact him about payment this was before I knew I had problems and he would not answer so I tried to purchase a small purchase from him so he would have to answer me and that's is when I found out I was blocked. I then used a different ebay ID to purchase 5 items he then started talking to me he did unblock me shipped the items I purchased (baseball cards) and no I did not leave negative feed back. The problem I have is just the dishonesty and the not communicating but the hardest part was he took my coins knowing he was not going to pay I do hope for the best but expect the worst.

  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    If the victims want to do something, they should all file a complaint with the Internet Crime Center (IC3)

    If there are multiple victims (which there are) and the amount is greater than $25,000 (I don't know) then the Feds will start an investigation.

    Also file a complaint with your local post office (where you mailed your coins from)

  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭

    I'd be angry too, to say the least.

    What a freaking mess.

    A BST'er.

    Still waiting to see Shane post this board. He knows how it works.

    @oldstandard said:

    @mach1ne said:

    @Cakes said:
    Mach1ne can stand up for himself if he took offence.

    I take offence to nothing. :p

    The reason why I haven't taken him to court is because the cost of doing so outweighs what I would recover. But some emails have been going around about a class action lawsuit. And I know law enforcement is getting involved. I would even settle with less than what he owes me, but he's such a cretin he hasn't even reached out to me once.

    This is the same reason for me also if I live there different story. When he blocked me on ebay I was mad I was trying to contact him about payment this was before I knew I had problems and he would not answer so I tried to purchase a small purchase from him so he would have to answer me and that's is when I found out I was blocked. I then used a different ebay ID to purchase 5 items he then started talking to me he did unblock me shipped the items I purchased (baseball cards) and no I did not leave negative feed back. The problem I have is just the dishonesty and the not communicating but the hardest part was he took my coins knowing he was not going to pay I do hope for the best but expect the worst.

  • brg5658brg5658 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sad how someone can go from this to the current mess in a matter of a few months.

    :disappointed:

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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭

    brg I agree...........geesh and in only 2 years he fell hard into whatever situation he got himself in.

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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Guys,
    you might as well get over and forget it, he is not going to pay anyone back, and has no intention of doing so, Ill bet even if he comes into a little funds he wont. Folks like this never do. They just hope enough time goes by and it gets forgotten,
    Had a guy (dealer) take me for 20k last year(actually dec 2015), said he pay back when he got some $ haven't seen a dime and never expect I will.

  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭

    Irony, coincidence, guess the pleasure of dealing with the 99% wore off.

    How strange.

    kryptonitecomicskryptonitecomics Posts: 9,325 ✭

    April 9, 2014 2:18AM

    Thanks all...a lot of hard work for sure but getting to deal with 99% of coin buyers is a real pleasure.....I don't let the few bad apples spoil the experience for me.

    Hopefully I will still be around when the 20,000 positive announcement is made image

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @kryptonitecomics said:
    Thanks all...a lot of hard work for sure but getting to deal with 99% of coin buyers is a real pleasure.....I don't let the few bad apples spoil the experience for me.

    Hopefully I will still be around when the 20,000 positive announcement is made

    He is up to 17874 positives. He just might make it.

    Hopefully the referenced "few bad apples" are not the ones who complain about not getting paid! If they are, shame on all of you! You are spoiling his experience.

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm pretty sure the jailhouse is full of folks that steal. A crime has been committed here. There is no way to soft peddle this mess. I hope that all folks that has been taken advantage of gets their money back but I don't see that happening. It has been a very long time now and I agree he is hoping they all forget about it.
    If it were me that got ripped off I would NEVER let it go and I hope you all put the thumbscrews to him until he comes clean. I don't know how he looks at himself in the mirror.

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  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jdimmick said:
    Guys,
    you might as well get over and forget it, he is not going to pay anyone back, and has no intention of doing so, Ill bet even if he comes into a little funds he wont. Folks like this never do. They just hope enough time goes by and it gets forgotten,
    Had a guy (dealer) take me for 20k last year(actually dec 2015), said he pay back when he got some $ haven't seen a dime and never expect I will.

    I agree but it would still be nice if the thread doesn't go poof, it might save the next batch of collectors that might not know about him.

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  • MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the most proactive thing would be for everyone who has been defrauded by Shane to either:

    • Post in this thread what he owes you
    • Send me a private message and I will keep a spreadsheet of his debts

    I will need this information when I file a complaint with the IC3 (FBI).

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,993 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jdimmick said:
    Guys,
    you might as well get over and forget it, he is not going to pay anyone back, and has no intention of doing so, Ill bet even if he comes into a little funds he wont. Folks like this never do. They just hope enough time goes by and it gets forgotten,
    Had a guy (dealer) take me for 20k last year(actually dec 2015), said he pay back when he got some $ haven't seen a dime and never expect I will.

    At least get a judgment against the flimflam con artists. I just spoke with a DA's office on an old issue, they said my lawyer could have tried the criminal charges route initially instead of pursuing it as a civil fraud. I'm still trying to collect on the deadbeat.

  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2017 2:52PM

    *> > Had a guy (dealer) take me for 20k last year(actually dec 2015), said he pay back when he got some $ haven't seen a dime and never expect I will. <<

    You got to be pulling my lariat.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I heard about a year ago that he took out an advance (disguised as a loan) from some company to purchase inventory for his eBay business. I turns out the advance is repaid by drawing 15% from gross sales. This was on 'all' sales, not just new inventory and drawn directly from his PAYPAL account. His inventory purchase was in cards and they are not selling well now. I am not defending the guy, and know he has some regular consignors that are still supplying him with colorful coins. I do not feel he is running a Ponzi scheme, but trying to run a business that is behind on currents. This is more compassionately understood by people who have ran a business that was behind for a few years or that has failed.

    Here is an eBay thread on Kabbage 'loans' ->

    community.ebay.com/t5/A-Part-time-eBay-Sellers-Group/Kabbage-quot-loans-quot/td-p/3002329

  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭

    A"business that was behind for a few years" is not a business in my book.
    It is a ponzi scheme or criminal enterprise.
    I do not see him paying off his debts after a few years.
    Are you kidding me?

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @epcjimi1 said:
    *> > Had a guy (dealer) take me for 20k last year(actually dec 2015), said he pay back when he got some $ haven't seen a dime and never expect I will. <<

    You got to be pulling my lariat.

    Indeed! That's A LOT of scratch!

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    I heard about a year ago that he took out an advance (disguised as a loan) from some company to purchase inventory for his eBay business. I turns out the advance is repaid by drawing 15% from gross sales. This was on 'all' sales, not just new inventory and drawn directly from his PAYPAL account. His inventory purchase was in cards and they are not selling well now. I am not defending the guy, and know he has some regular consignors that are still supplying him with colorful coins. I do not feel he is running a Ponzi scheme, but trying to run a business that is behind on currents. This is more compassionately understood by people who have ran a business that was behind for a few years or that has failed.

    Here is an eBay thread on Kabbage 'loans' ->

    community.ebay.com/t5/A-Part-time-eBay-Sellers-Group/Kabbage-quot-loans-quot/td-p/3002329

    If this were the case, he has made a mistake by waiting to seek counsel. He could have thrown his company into bankruptcy and potentially used the claw back to get the money back. Since the money did not belong to the LLC (but was held in trust for others), he may have been able to repay consignors their proceeds before other creditors. If there is a good reason, he needs to come forward with documentation. By waiting and ignoring everyone, he has made things worse than if he came forward in the beginning.

  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭

    Last Active July 15, 2015

    Judging by his lack of checking in shows how much he cares about everyone's losses.

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  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This all reminds me quite a bit of Cameron Kieffer.....many people thought the forum attacks were too hard after he killed himself.

  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2017 7:05PM

    @DNADave said:
    This all reminds me quite a bit of Cameron Kieffer.....many people thought the forum attacks were too hard after he killed himself.

    Not too familiar with his case, Did Cameron ignore people too? It really grinds my gears when someone takes my money then ignores me. There needs to at the very least be "good faith" efforts.
    If you can't pay your consignors then it must be put "out in the open" to warn others. It's only fair to the potential victims to know the danger.

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2017 7:54PM

    I spoke with a private detective last week on my scammer, he said he would cost $300 to find out where he is; no good if he is a moving target living at motels short term, using burner phones, etc.. I'm not sure about CK. Legal procedure can be basic and short and sweet if you have law enforcement on your side. Difficulties involve all types of ruses with hard to attach funds.

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